blood tests in...need help

[tkrex]

new test results in
RBC 5.8
HEMOGLOBIN 17.5
HEMOCRIT 52.5

all a little high


total cholesterol 120
HDL 22....been eating 8 grams fish oils and red rice yeast along with niacin...still too low

t4 low at 3.2
and t3 high at 44 what should I do here??

test serum >1500
free >68
% free 4.6%


igf1 384
gh serum 8.4 ....finally got real hgh

estradol sensitive 551.....I never get gyno but this looks very high ....what do you recommend?

[exphys88]

Quite a few things need to be addressed first.

I'm assuming you're on cycle, which means that it's expected for your rbc, hemoglobin, and hemotacrit to be elevated. You can donate some blood or not worry about it and recheck 1 month after pct.

cholesterol is normal for on cycle too, the important part is that it returns to normal after your cycle.

what is the reference range for your t3? HGH will cause a drop in t4 so it's recommended to run a low dose of t4 while on hgh.

how much hgh did you pin? was it IM or subq? how long before blood draw did you inject? How much are you running normally?

what is the reference range for your estradiol? If it's the normal 13-50, then you need to do something asap. I would personally run adex at 1 mg/day until it came down to a normal level.

[pips]

i agree u need ref points to figure out were u need to go.honestly all we can do is make educated guesses

[tkrex]

yes still on cycle

I pinned 10 ius of hgh an hour before sub q to see if my hgh was any good...normally run 5 ius every day

t4 is 3.2 and my range is 4.5 -12
t3 is44 and range is 24-39

estradiol supposed to be 3-70


i have lethro and adex t3 and t4 on hand

thanks for the help

[exphys88]

Start an AI ASAP. What compounds are you running?
If it were me, I'd drop any orals that aromatize until the estradiol gets back into the male range.

[tkrex]

just 800 mg test e and some tren every other day at 150 mg

[tkrex]

what about the t3 and t4?

thanks

[ShortnWide]

yes still on cycle

I pinned 10 ius of hgh an hour before sub q to see if my hgh was any good...normally run 5 ius every day

t4 is 3.2 and my range is 4.5 -12
t3 is44 and range is 24-39

estradiol supposed to be 3-70


i have lethro and adex t3 and t4 on hand

thanks for the help


IMO I think you should have waited at least 3 hours before taking the test-especially injecting subQ

[tkrex]

yes should have waited but I needed to find out if my hgh was good...last time it was not

[Redis]

1. For the hematocrit, read this (saved from another board)


Ingestion of grapefruit lowers elevated hematocrits in human subjects.
Robbins RC, Martin FG, Roe JM.
Source
Food Science and Human Nutrition Department, IFAS, University of Florida, Gainesville.
Abstract
This study was based on in vitro observations that naringin isolated from grapefruit induced red cell aggregation and evidence that clumped red cells are removed from the circulation by phagocytosis. The effect on hematocrits of adding grapefruit to the daily diet was determined using 36 human subjects (12 F, 24 M) over a 42-day study. The hematocrits ranged from 36.5 to 55.8% at the start and 38.8% to 49.2% at the end of the study. There was a differential effect on the hematocrit. The largest decreases occurred at the highest hematocrits and the effect decreased on the intermediate hematocrits; however, the low hematocrits increased. There was no significant difference between ingesting 1/2 or 1 grapefruit per day but a decrease in hematocrit due to ingestion of grapefruit was statistically significant at the p less than 0.01 level.


PROOF

This is something that has worked for me along with proper hydration (note drinking to much water can dehydrate you by eliminating essential minerals).
My RBC on 3/15 @ 1:04 pm was @ 6.04
Hematocrit 54%
Hemoglobin 17.6

On 3/16 for breakfast ate �½ grapefruit along with my usual rye/oatmeal 4egg whites 1 whole egg with a little extra iodized salt for a hydration support.

I repeated this protocol for one week and had another blood draw on 3/23 @ 9:06 am my RBC were
RBC 5.80
Hematocrit 50%
Hemoglobin 17.1

I'm also on TRT, for the last four years.
Yes my BP dropped as my HR did also
Here's a link on grapefruit and lowering hematocrit

2. As for HDL, I'm in the same boat as you. Also doing fish oil/niacin. If you're really concerned, might talk to the doctor about it and get a med to raise it.

3. Estradiol: use an AI for a while then get retested.

[tkrex]

ok thanks...anybody have advice on the t3 and t4 levels?

[tkrex]

t4 is 3.2 and my range is 4.5 -12
t3 is44 and range is 24-39

what should I do about this?

[BIGBOSS]

I have never had blood work done. I think i will look into it.