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DEFYTHEGODS
12-23-2018, 04:10 AM
myplate vs myfitnesspal

i'm posting this because My Fitness pal doesnt have calculations for strength training, only cardio, so i have to fricken say i'm moving boxes or some crap like that when i strength train because for some reason moving boxes is a cardio effort....

leftkz
12-23-2018, 05:15 AM
I still prefer myfitnesspal for a few reasons. There is a lot more user added content when it comes to food, and there is a desktop version of it. I use the desktop version to make screen shots for my log on this forum so that's a pretty important aspect to me.

I only use it to log meals and food, that's it. I don't use their settings that are "calculated" with their formula. I have my own idea of how much calories and individual macros I want to hit and input it manually into the app so that I can stay on track. The rest of the app in my opinion is garbage.

DEFYTHEGODS
12-24-2018, 05:05 AM
I still prefer myfitnesspal for a few reasons. There is a lot more user added content when it comes to food, and there is a desktop version of it. I use the desktop version to make screen shots for my log on this forum so that's a pretty important aspect to me.

I only use it to log meals and food, that's it. I don't use their settings that are "calculated" with their formula. I have my own idea of how much calories and individual macros I want to hit and input it manually into the app so that I can stay on track. The rest of the app in my opinion is garbage.


i do manipulate some of the data, but i let the app count the calories. what's your macro dispersion for different modes like gain, loose and maintain?

so when you manipulate the data for your goals you're talking about the fact that you're a bodybuilder and not who the app was made for. average people?

what's your method for determining calorie targets? i also noticed that the app is generous with calories and the macro dispersion are not what most BB sites recomend. whats your body type and what do you think of that notion?

leftkz
12-24-2018, 05:49 AM
i do manipulate some of the data, but i let the app count the calories. what's your macro dispersion for different modes like gain, loose and maintain?

so when you manipulate the data for your goals you're talking about the fact that you're a bodybuilder and not who the app was made for. average people?

what's your method for determining calorie targets? i also noticed that the app is generous with calories and the macro dispersion are not what most BB sites recomend. whats your body type and what do you think of that notion?

I hate to say it, but the app is more geared toward the average gym-goer or just fitness person in general. It's not geared for people... well.. on gear. Those generic gain, maintain and lose numbers they come up with based on your weight are more or less based on a very broad spectrum of people so that they can appease to the masses. On top of that, when you look at the macro split they recommend, it's not even close to being ideal for bodybuilders. If I were to use their numbers, I'd end up eating like 110g of protein every day which is almost half of what I would need to build muscle efficiently.

The principles I use for caloric targets and macros are more or less based on experience and experimentation.

I've found that I prefer a higher carb diet, rather than a low carb diet, and respond better with moderate fats. I always keep the 1g-1.5g of protein per pound of lean body mass. Which usually ends up at around 200g for me. For fats, I vary between 70-100g of fats depending if I am cutting or bulking. I will fill in the rest of the calories with carbs.

The only thing left to do is to figure out how much your daily caloric intake should be which is based on TDEE. When using the online calculators, be modest. If you think you train heavy and intense, I would input "moderate" on these calculators as from my experience, they tend to be quite generous. You probably noticed that when using the MFP app.

Personally, I use my TDEE and add or subtract ~10% in incremental steps. I never add all my calories in 1 go. So for example.. My maintenance caloric target comes out to around 2650. If I were to cut, I would start at 2450 and slowly work myself down when I start to plateau. I wouldn't dive straight down to 2000.

Oldskool
12-30-2018, 04:23 AM
I use cronometer and its good enough for my purposes. There Is no tracking software/app that does everything a BBer needs.

Not that I've seen.

I just use them to help count calories and macros.

When it comes to daily consumption it's just something Ive learned over time

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Diesel1965
12-30-2018, 05:04 AM
I use cronometer and its good enough for my purposes. There Is no tracking software/app that does everything a BBer needs.

Not that I've seen.

I just use them to help count calories and macros.

When it comes to daily consumption it's just something Ive learned over time

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Go to HugeDomains.com - TrueNaturalBodybuilding.com is for sale (True Natural Bodybuilding) (http://www.Truenaturalbodybuilding.com) and download the spreadsheet template you can plug in your age, weight, sex, height, fat % you can type in what food's your eating throughout the day and it will automatically calculate macros of each food and total carbs, protein, and fat, total of each food and meal.

Diesel1965
12-30-2018, 05:07 AM
Go to HugeDomains.com - TrueNaturalBodybuilding.com is for sale (True Natural Bodybuilding) (http://www.Truenaturalbodybuilding.com) and download the spreadsheet template you can plug in your age, weight, sex, height, fat % you can type in what food's your eating throughout the day and it will automatically calculate macros of each food and total carbs, protein, and fat, total of each food and meal.

I downloaded it on my laptop and use it myself. I'm not aware the domain name is for sale.

Diesel1965
12-30-2018, 05:12 AM
My bad it's no longer available. I downloaded it through windows 10 about a year ago.

Oldskool
12-30-2018, 05:13 AM
Go to HugeDomains.com - TrueNaturalBodybuilding.com is for sale (True Natural Bodybuilding) (http://www.Truenaturalbodybuilding.com) and download the spreadsheet template you can plug in your age, weight, sex, height, fat % you can type in what food's your eating throughout the day and it will automatically calculate macros of each food and total carbs, protein, and fat, total of each food and meal.Yeah but does it have the extensive library of foods and user added foods of cronometer?

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Oldskool
12-30-2018, 05:15 AM
Go to HugeDomains.com - TrueNaturalBodybuilding.com is for sale (True Natural Bodybuilding) (http://www.Truenaturalbodybuilding.com) and download the spreadsheet template you can plug in your age, weight, sex, height, fat % you can type in what food's your eating throughout the day and it will automatically calculate macros of each food and total carbs, protein, and fat, total of each food and meal.Cronometer does all that. And it has from what I've heard yhe most extensive library of foods and it expands daily, sends reminders, has a user friendly interface, has an option to allow ur BB coach to sign on and modify things

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DEFYTHEGODS
01-13-2019, 07:39 PM
I hate to say it, but the app is more geared toward the average gym-goer or just fitness person in general. It's not geared for people... well.. on gear. Those generic gain, maintain and lose numbers they come up with based on your weight are more or less based on a very broad spectrum of people so that they can appease to the masses. On top of that, when you look at the macro split they recommend, it's not even close to being ideal for bodybuilders. If I were to use their numbers, I'd end up eating like 110g of protein every day which is almost half of what I would need to build muscle efficiently.

The principles I use for caloric targets and macros are more or less based on experience and experimentation.

I've found that I prefer a higher carb diet, rather than a low carb diet, and respond better with moderate fats. I always keep the 1g-1.5g of protein per pound of lean body mass. Which usually ends up at around 200g for me. For fats, I vary between 70-100g of fats depending if I am cutting or bulking. I will fill in the rest of the calories with carbs.

The only thing left to do is to figure out how much your daily caloric intake should be which is based on TDEE. When using the online calculators, be modest. If you think you train heavy and intense, I would input "moderate" on these calculators as from my experience, they tend to be quite generous. You probably noticed that when using the MFP app.

Personally, I use my TDEE and add or subtract ~10% in incremental steps. I never add all my calories in 1 go. So for example.. My maintenance caloric target comes out to around 2650. If I were to cut, I would start at 2450 and slowly work myself down when I start to plateau. I wouldn't dive straight down to 2000.


yea, i redo all the numbers they give me. it's got full customization. MACROS, and calories. i use the formulas and food library options. that medisafe app is legit bro. i like NEED it now.

right now for instance i re did my numbers for this. does it seem like a decent distribution for gaining?

176lb current weight at 10.6% BF. TDEE is 2,310cals and surplus added is 500cal. all manual adjustments

these were manual as well
210g P
315g C
78g F

The Hoff
01-13-2019, 08:30 PM
I love my fitness pal. I just track my macros. I dont worry about activity. Honestly my diets pretty much the same almost every day. It's just a habit.