Mountain dog vs y3t training

[animal23]

Anyone use both of these and like one better than the other? What methods of training you guys prefer?

[Plate Smacker]

Mountain dog is not one, but many training programs.
Y3T is a weekly undulating periodization.
You can take any program split and turn it into a Y3T type training.

[animal23]

Mountain dog is not one, but many training programs.
Y3T is a weekly undulating periodization.
You can take any program split and turn it into a Y3T type training.

Ya I should of been more clear. Have you done any of md's and y3t training? Better results from one vs the other?

[balin]

I have gotten gains from Mountain dog training, as well as Fortitude traing.

[animal23]

I have gotten gains from Mountain dog training, as well as Fortitude traing.

Did you follow any specific program when you did fortitude training?

[Plate Smacker]

I run a modified Mountain Dog 2.0 Taskmaster program before summer.
Arm block because I am working on my arms.
36938

The actual program has all videos of exercises and exercise selection you can use, along with recommended RPE (rate of perceived exertion)(explained in program).

I have an indepth comment on his video. Plate Smacker.

https://youtu.be/t3wKDVwmiOc

NOTE: When doing this I am running 1.2g Test E and 500mg Deca, Aromasin 12.5mg E4D, 20mg Nolvadex E3D or EOD (depends). 5mg Cialis ED
So my recovery is better, plus diet and I sleep at least 8 hours.
After 2 weeks of running the program, I take 2 full days off with stretching. Then another 2 weeks on, then 2 days off.... ect...

During winter I use an 8 day Training cycle... Legs, Off, Pull (horizontal rowing movements with deadlift), Push, Legs, Pull (vertical movements), Push, Legs, Off....
I rotate weight and reps, as well as various training principles like rest pause, dropsets, and many others.
I use DUP (daily undulating periodization) as well as rotating what exercise I use the prescribed rep range and weight on. This seems complicated, but it keeps the body guessing. There are so many variables you can change in any program, along with time under tension, weight, volume... and so on
So I can rotate these ideas:
by working to, warming up to
Legs-heavy sets of 3 on squat, other exercises 8 reps
OFF
Pull- sets of 8 on a rowing movement of choice, other exercises go for pump, rotate deadlift reps and weight (sometimes heavy singles,tripples, higher reps)
Push- High rep work, or light weight but really slow eccentric and concentric 5seconds push, 5 second pull really focusing on mind muscle connection. This can make a really light weight heavy. I focus on keeping time under tension below 60 sec. You can rotate time under tension.
Then next time I hit legs I can do the High rep work, or sets of around 8 reps, just rotate things around.
This way, you are stimulating all muscle fiber types.

[animal23]

I run a modified Mountain Dog 2.0 Taskmaster program before summer.
Arm block because I am working on my arms.
36938

The actual program has all videos of exercises and exercise selection you can use, along with recommended RPE (rate of perceived exertion)(explained in program).

I have an indepth comment on his video. Plate Smacker.

https://youtu.be/t3wKDVwmiOc

NOTE: When doing this I am running 1.2g Test E and 500mg Deca, Aromasin 12.5mg E4D, 20mg Nolvadex E3D or EOD (depends). 5mg Cialis ED
So my recovery is better, plus diet and I sleep at least 8 hours.
After 2 weeks of running the program, I take 2 full days off with stretching. Then another 2 weeks on, then 2 days off.... ect...

During winter I use an 8 day Training cycle... Legs, Off, Pull (horizontal rowing movements with deadlift), Push, Legs, Pull (vertical movements), Push, Legs, Off....
I rotate weight and reps, as well as various training principles like rest pause, dropsets, and many others.
I use DUP (daily undulating periodization) as well as rotating what exercise I use the prescribed rep range and weight on. This seems complicated, but it keeps the body guessing. There are so many variables you can change in any program, along with time under tension, weight, volume... and so on
So I can rotate these ideas:
by working to, warming up to
Legs-heavy sets of 3 on squat, other exercises 8 reps
OFF
Pull- sets of 8 on a rowing movement of choice, other exercises go for pump, rotate deadlift reps and weight (sometimes heavy singles,tripples, higher reps)
Push- High rep work, or light weight but really slow eccentric and concentric 5seconds push, 5 second pull really focusing on mind muscle connection. This can make a really light weight heavy. I focus on keeping time under tension below 60 sec. You can rotate time under tension.
Then next time I hit legs I can do the High rep work, or sets of around 8 reps, just rotate things around.
This way, you are stimulating all muscle fiber types.

Wow, thanks for the write up. Very detailed.

[animal23]

I run a modified Mountain Dog 2.0 Taskmaster program before summer.
Arm block because I am working on my arms.
36938

The actual program has all videos of exercises and exercise selection you can use, along with recommended RPE (rate of perceived exertion)(explained in program).

I have an indepth comment on his video. Plate Smacker.

https://youtu.be/t3wKDVwmiOc

NOTE: When doing this I am running 1.2g Test E and 500mg Deca, Aromasin 12.5mg E4D, 20mg Nolvadex E3D or EOD (depends). 5mg Cialis ED
So my recovery is better, plus diet and I sleep at least 8 hours.
After 2 weeks of running the program, I take 2 full days off with stretching. Then another 2 weeks on, then 2 days off.... ect...

During winter I use an 8 day Training cycle... Legs, Off, Pull (horizontal rowing movements with deadlift), Push, Legs, Pull (vertical movements), Push, Legs, Off....
I rotate weight and reps, as well as various training principles like rest pause, dropsets, and many others.
I use DUP (daily undulating periodization) as well as rotating what exercise I use the prescribed rep range and weight on. This seems complicated, but it keeps the body guessing. There are so many variables you can change in any program, along with time under tension, weight, volume... and so on
So I can rotate these ideas:
by working to, warming up to
Legs-heavy sets of 3 on squat, other exercises 8 reps
OFF
Pull- sets of 8 on a rowing movement of choice, other exercises go for pump, rotate deadlift reps and weight (sometimes heavy singles,tripples, higher reps)
Push- High rep work, or light weight but really slow eccentric and concentric 5seconds push, 5 second pull really focusing on mind muscle connection. This can make a really light weight heavy. I focus on keeping time under tension below 60 sec. You can rotate time under tension.
Then next time I hit legs I can do the High rep work, or sets of around 8 reps, just rotate things around.
This way, you are stimulating all muscle fiber types.

I have 4 or more of his programs, but not this one. I also have access to y3t program and hundreds more. I have never done anything like y3t training. Some of your modified tweaking is similar to y3t training. I posted this thread up on another board and got bashed. You don't want to keep changing things, your body can't guess etc

I always thought you wanted to keep your body guessing. I will say it's hard to see what progress your making on weights if you do change weekly . I see it both ways

[Plate Smacker]

That is why I use RPE(rate of perceived exertion). I go by feel. It would be better if I logged everything. Some should log everything.
RPE can change depending on taxation of Central Nervous System. So logging is important. Some days you just feel stronger. Logging gives you a no bullshit goal to push through.

[animal23]

That is why I use RPE(rate of perceived exertion). I go by feel. It would be better if I logged everything. Some should log everything.
RPE can change depending on taxation of Central Nervous System. So logging is important. Some days you just feel stronger. Logging gives you a no bullshit goal to push through.

I log everything like a nerd lmao

[balin]

Did you follow any specific program when you did fortitude training?
I adapted it to work around my injuries and abilities. I am sure I would have gotten better results 20-30 years ago.