Confused about Dbol as a kicker

[akhusker]

So everyone keeps telling me to use Dbol as a kicker with my test E, I am confused on that, I was under the impression that you would front load with Test E to get it up faster, what does the Dbol do besides boost your test? Can I frontload and run Dbol? Also how long should I run the Dbol? 6 or 8 weeks for a 12 to 14 week cycle? Thanks guys I know you will all give great advice!

[ODB]

front loading is not that common nowadays so that makes kickers more popular.
Dbol kicks in aprx 1wk whereas Test E is aprx 4-6wks - so generally speaking if ur using steroids patience is not one of ur strong suits.
Dbol+Test are very synergistic.
Dbol is generally ran 6-8 wks but u can do as little as 4-6wks

[Racer51]

I like the d ball for the first 5 weeks of a bulk cycle

[bugse2342]

Always used dbol for a kicker with slow esters. However this time around I am trying the superdrol.

[Dath]

front loading is not that common nowadays so that makes kickers more popular.
Dbol kicks in aprx 1wk whereas Test E is aprx 4-6wks - so generally speaking if ur using steroids patience is not one of ur strong suits.
Dbol+Test are very synergistic.
Dbol is generally ran 6-8 wks but u can do as little as 4-6wks

^^^This... 50mgs ED and you'll be off and running bro

[Tank]

I use 50mg d/bol ed for 5 to 6 weeks till my test-e kicks in.
Bulk up real fast.

[akhusker]

Do you only use it only with long esters? i got Sust. 300 for my next cycle mainly cause i wanted to try it but i also wanted to up my test intake from 500mg a week to 600mg. My next cycle is all bulking and prob. the one after it to. So I was thinking:

Sust 300 - 2 times per week (or every 3.5 days) - total 600 per week
Deca 400 (half of dose to get 200mg) - taken same as Sust. - total 400 per week
Dbol 50mg ED
Caber and AI on hand, might just take required amounts just to make sure nothing happens

So now is time, It will be either 12 to 14 weeks, I don't know if 14 weeks will be any better than 12. I noticed on the cycle I'm on now I grew like a weed for the first 6-8 weeks but just leveled off after.

So maybe test for the full 12
deca for 10
and dbol for 8

Has anyone ran the Dbol the last 8 weeks instead of first 8?

[qbfavre]

Most people kickstart with Dbol, but I know a few peeps who kickstart and also finish with it. I guess it really depends on how many compounds you want to take and how much you want to buy.

I was planning to kickstart my cycle (for 4 weeks) with Dbol or Tbol.

[akhusker]

Well I stocked up on gear like the apocolypse is coming, I bought everything i could get my hands on while im making good money so i can mix and match, but i still dont want to waste the gear if its not going to benefit me the most. I was thinking to run Winny the last 6 weeks just to cut out some of the fat i might accumulate while bulking.

[Dath]

So now is time, It will be either 12 to 14 weeks, I don't know if 14 weeks will be any better than 12. I noticed on the cycle I'm on now I grew like a weed for the first 6-8 weeks but just leveled off after.

So maybe test for the full 12
deca for 10
and dbol for 8

Has anyone ran the Dbol the last 8 weeks instead of first 8?

It's common to see your gains stall out around 8 wks due to myostain buildup, at this point to continue gains it's good to
Either up your doses, add an additional compound or substitute a new compound in.

I'm a fan of Addin an oral the last few weeks of a long ester cycle, reason being you can run said oral through the 2-3
Weeks leading up to pct while allowing the test to clear and still have something in your system. Typical pct for Sust begins 3 wks after your last pin due to the long ester associated with Sust.

[gear shef]

Do you only use it only with long esters? i got Sust. 300 for my next cycle mainly cause i wanted to try it but i also wanted to up my test intake from 500mg a week to 600mg. My next cycle is all bulking and prob. the one after it to. So I was thinking:

Sust 300 - 2 times per week (or every 3.5 days) - total 600 per week
Deca 400 (half of dose to get 200mg) - taken same as Sust. - total 400 per week
Dbol 50mg ED
Caber and AI on hand, might just take required amounts just to make sure nothing happens

So now is time, It will be either 12 to 14 weeks, I don't know if 14 weeks will be any better than 12. I noticed on the cycle I'm on now I grew like a weed for the first 6-8 weeks but just leveled off after.

So maybe test for the full 12
deca for 10
and dbol for 8

Has anyone ran the Dbol the last 8 weeks instead of first 8?

personally I wouldnt, you dont want your estrogen levels very high when that close to pct and dbol aromatizes easily.

further no one really wants all that water at the end of a cycle either. after all you want to see the muscle youve made right?

[akhusker]

personally I wouldnt, you dont want your estrogen levels very high when that close to pct and dbol aromatizes easily.

further no one really wants all that water at the end of a cycle either. after all you want to see the muscle youve made right?

What would you recommend?

[Racer51]

Everyone responds alittle different you have to experament a little see what works best for you use every ones experiance as a guide

[akhusker]

Everyone responds alittle different you have to experament a little see what works best for you use every ones experiance as a guide

Very true, thanks! I just don't wanna do something that will harm me, which I why I look for advice from people who know far more than me!

[colochine]

A dbol kickstart will add a drastic increase in strength and size in matter of a month or so.

The theory behind the short oral kickstart for a 12-15week (maybe longer) cycle is that all the strength and mass gains will be solidified and more easily retained during the remaining inject cycle.

[akhusker]

A dbol kickstart will add a drastic increase in strength and size in matter of a month or so.

The theory behind the short oral kickstart for a 12-15week (maybe longer) cycle is that all the strength and mass gains will be solidified and more easily retained during the remaining inject cycle.

Oh ok, that is exactly the answer I was looking for, thanks!