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meatneck71
04-27-2019, 01:02 AM
So, I found myself preloading 27 gauge slin pins the other day and while I stood there holding the dam vial for 2-3 minutes waiting for the oil to fill it up, I had an idea to make such a contraption that could hold 4, 6, 8 or 10 vials at the same time drawing gear into each slin. I'm not a hardcore bodybuilder, so preloading a stack of 10 slins for EQ, 10 slins for test e, maybe some prop would do me just fine. Max bottles of 4. However, I know that there are guys in here who use gear at a much higher dosage and frequency, so my question is - would anyone be interested in such a device? Would it be beneficial to you? If it was - let's say 20$ or under, would you buy it? How many vials would you use at the same time to pull oil?

I searched all over and didn't find anything like what I was thinking, so if you would seriously consider purchasing something like this, leave your comments here. I'm in the prototype phase right now.

Thanks!

BombdotCom
04-27-2019, 01:36 AM
There's solvents in oils that will eat away dissolve your pins. Only preload water based like hcg hgh.

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maxmuscle1
04-27-2019, 01:44 AM
There's solvents in oils that will eat away dissolve your pins. Only preload water based like hcg hgh.

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He is right! It can dissolve the rubber on the plunger. I do preload now for a couple days, but you have to keep the oil/water facing down away from the plunger after loading. Basically keeping the juice away from the back of the syringe. But I have a custom made holder that is at room temp at all times and out of any light or heat source. Not really feasible if you have anyone in your house that doesn’t know or you don’t want to know!! Lol

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sa355355
04-27-2019, 01:51 AM
There's solvents in oils that will eat away dissolve your pins. Only preload water based like hcg hgh.

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I pin ED or EOD and have been preloading a weeks worth of shots for years and have never had an issue.





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BombdotCom
04-27-2019, 02:10 AM
I pin ED or EOD and have been preloading a weeks worth of shots for years and have never had an issue.





Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkI've read a few articles about it. Even BD put out a warning saying oils interact with the rubber stopper. Not saying it'll kill you over night but the possibility of injecting dissolved rubber or plastic outweighs the time saving aspect of preloading for me. Call me paranoid but when the manufacturer puts out a warning it's usually to cover their own asses.

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maxmuscle1
04-27-2019, 02:15 AM
I've read a few articles about it. Even BD put out a warning saying oils interact with the rubber stopper. Not saying it'll kill you over night but the possibility of injecting dissolved rubber or plastic outweighs the time saving aspect of preloading for me. Call me paranoid but when the manufacturer puts out a warning it's usually to cover their own asses.

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Especially with different companies. Most have proprietary/secret blends in high mg gear. EO, Guaiacol, BB/BA.


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meatneck71
04-27-2019, 03:36 AM
Well crap. I guess that's why no one else has ventured this way. I did not know that.. well, that saves me some time. I may still make one just for shitz and gigglez.. I'm glad I asked about it, good to know! :) I figured everything in a slin pin, including the rubber would be safe, but I guess not. So is the rubber in the stoppers more resistant to the chemicals?

maxmuscle1
04-27-2019, 03:40 AM
Well crap. I guess that's why no one else has ventured this way. I did not know that.. well, that saves me some time. I may still make one just for shitz and gigglez.. I'm glad I asked about it, good to know! :) I figured everything in a slin pin, including the rubber would be safe, but I guess not. So is the rubber in the stoppers more resistant to the chemicals?

You can preload just sit the syringe in the position so the liquid isn’t touching the stopper. If that makes sense. (Sometimes typing doesn’t help explain as well as a picture, I’ll try and post what I mean later)

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meatneck71
04-27-2019, 04:35 AM
You can preload just sit the syringe in the position so the liquid isn’t touching the stopper. If that makes sense. (Sometimes typing doesn’t help explain as well as a picture, I’ll try and post what I mean later)

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No, I got ya, but it sorta defeats the purpose.. Eh, I'll go brainstorm something else now.. hah.

Gmen3901
04-27-2019, 09:31 AM
I've read a few articles about it. Even BD put out a warning saying oils interact with the rubber stopper. Not saying it'll kill you over night but the possibility of injecting dissolved rubber or plastic outweighs the time saving aspect of preloading for me. Call me paranoid but when the manufacturer puts out a warning it's usually to cover their own asses.

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Good to know never knew that. My paranoid self is going to throw those preloads away.


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Enigma
04-27-2019, 03:59 PM
Especially with different companies. Most have proprietary/secret blends in high mg gear. EO, Guaiacol, BB/BA.


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Yep. I used to use big syringes waaaaay back when to fill vials and brews with EO would start getting tight/sticky after around 4 fills. Preload is a very, very bad idea.

maxmuscle1
04-27-2019, 04:14 PM
Yep. I used to use big syringes waaaaay back when to fill vials and brews with EO would start getting tight/sticky after around 4 fills. Preload is a very, very bad idea.

How you been E?

Max


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Enigma
04-27-2019, 05:20 PM
Just busy. Which is supposed o be good, I think? I don't get a chance to respond sometimes. Also, I find that when I have limited time to post, I might be coming off as a dick. I may keep my responding for weekends only. During the week I can be pretty busy.

Laughed at your Capetown comment. My family doesn't use "Kafer" so it took me a minute to get it. My wife tells me that originally that word was actually chosen by blacks to be used concerning them. I guess somewhere along the line it became a pejorative? I guess like anything, it in the way you say it.

I'm hoping to go to Pretoria and Capetown over December/January but may not be able to leave for a month or more. Maybe CT will have water the time around?

maxmuscle1
04-27-2019, 05:32 PM
Just busy. Which is supposed o be good, I think? I don't get a chance to respond sometimes. Also, I find that when I have limited time to post, I might be coming off as a dick. I may keep my responding for weekends only. During the week I can be pretty busy.

Laughed at your Capetown comment. My family doesn't use "Kafer" so it took me a minute to get it. My wife tells me that originally that word was actually chosen by blacks to be used concerning them. I guess somewhere along the line it became a pejorative? I guess like anything, it in the way you say it.

I'm hoping to go to Pretoria and Capetown over December/January but may not be able to leave for a month or more. Maybe CT will have water the time around?

I like the Sun City resort!! I gambled of course! I miss all of the street bbq stalls outside the main city.


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Cmack053
04-27-2019, 08:23 PM
Nooo! mail them to me instead. Imagining gear in a trash can makes me so so sad.

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Cmack053
04-27-2019, 08:24 PM
What are you doin to me Max!

Sachie
04-27-2019, 08:41 PM
He is right! It can dissolve the rubber on the plunger. I do preload now for a couple days, but you have to keep the oil/water facing down away from the plunger after loading. Basically keeping the juice away from the back of the syringe. But I have a custom made holder that is at room temp at all times and out of any light or heat source. Not really feasible if you have anyone in your house that doesn’t know or you don’t want to know!! Lol

Max


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That's what I do Maxamus. I have a gap of air between the plunger and the gear!

Sachie
04-27-2019, 08:43 PM
Just busy. Which is supposed o be good, I think? I don't get a chance to respond sometimes. Also, I find that when I have limited time to post, I might be coming off as a dick. I may keep my responding for weekends only. During the week I can be pretty busy.

Laughed at your Capetown comment. My family doesn't use "Kafer" so it took me a minute to get it. My wife tells me that originally that word was actually chosen by blacks to be used concerning them. I guess somewhere along the line it became a pejorative? I guess like anything, it in the way you say it.

I'm hoping to go to Pretoria and Capetown over December/January but may not be able to leave for a month or more. Maybe CT will have water the time around?
I don't find you to be a Dick at all Enigma. Just an experienced pro with a lot of knowledge who is straight to the point. Sometimes I find you hilarious!

rollingwinter
04-27-2019, 09:56 PM
That's what I do Maxamus. I have a gap of air between the plunger and the gear!

This ^

Sachie
04-27-2019, 10:03 PM
This ^
I'll backload 5 slin pins no problem. I ony pin .6cc ed so what I do is pull .6cc with 18g needletake the plunger out of the slin pin and inject the gear into the slin pin then lichtly push the slin pin plunger in to just get it to seat in. Then I flip it and push the plunger a little and then flip it up real quick so the oil is at the needle end of the slin pin and there is air after the oil to the plunger. Then I stand them straight up so it stays like that until I'm ready to use. I look really good to make sure nothing is in the oil. The plunger is always nice and clean and the gear is all by itself at the needle end. Not sure if you wanted to know but thats what I got from "This ^"

rollingwinter
04-28-2019, 01:41 AM
I'll backload 5 slin pins no problem. I ony pin .6cc ed so what I do is pull .6cc with 18g needletake the plunger out of the slin pin and inject the gear into the slin pin then lichtly push the slin pin plunger in to just get it to seat in. Then I flip it and push the plunger a little and then flip it up real quick so the oil is at the needle end of the slin pin and there is air after the oil to the plunger. Then I stand them straight up so it stays like that until I'm ready to use. I look really good to make sure nothing is in the oil. The plunger is always nice and clean and the gear is all by itself at the needle end. Not sure if you wanted to know but thats what I got from "This ^"

Oh, I was agreeing with you and that's how I do it as well. :)

Sachie
04-28-2019, 01:51 AM
Oh, I was agreeing with you and that's how I do it as well. :)
Sweeeeeeeeeet.
Radman taught me that and then I experimented to see how many could be done and how withought any issues.

blacksquatch
04-30-2019, 06:23 AM
the problem is that over a long period of time the oil build up in the syringe wears away at the rubber and sometimes they become faulty and leak oil. Ive experienced this before which is why i now only keep the oil in the vial unless needed

dumbbellpress
04-30-2019, 09:09 AM
Hmm that has never happened to me. I have kept preloaded syringes preloaded for up to about 1 year at a time. The rubber in the syringe's plunger did just fine for me, there was no leaking, and I have done this with maybe 200 pins in storage for about a year.

But I will take your word for it. Perhaps your gear had abnormally high amounts of solvents in it (BB and BA) that ate away at the rubber??.