Input Please

[Dungan23]

So after seeking advice, and researching quite a bit I’ve come up with the following for a bulk. Stats 5’11” 195lbs 11% bf. Diet 4500 k ed minimum.

Test c 250mg wk 1-16
npp 450mg wk 1-4
deca 600mg wk 1-16
superdrol 30mg wk 12-16
adex .5mg e3d
viagra 100mg as needed
caber .5mg 1x week as needed

im on trt so I don’t have to worry about a pct, anyway let me know what you guys think feel free to contribute input I greatly appreciate it and encourage it, thanks!

[dumbbellpress]

Short-acting and long-acting Nandrolone in the same cycle? I am confused? Never seen that before.

[dumbbellpress]

Also, with that much Nandrolone and so very little Test, good luck trying to get your penis to work properly. You're gonna be just like dumbbellpress, a limp dick. :coffee1344:

[Electromass]

When it comes to bulking, I'm old school..."if it ain't broke, don't try to fix it" type of mentality!!
I'm actually Bulking now and this is my protocol,....

Wk 1-4, 30 mg dbol split 10 mg every 4-5 hrs Ed. (Ramp up to 50 mg) ?
Wk 1-20, 600 mg test c, (ramp up to 1200)?
Wk1-10, 600 mg deca
Wk 1-10, 400 mg eq
Wk 1-10 25 mg nolva Ed
Wk 1-10 25 mg proviron Ed

I'll run this for 10 weeks eating 5000 (mostly quality) calories Ed
Weeks 10-20 I'll b switching everything too Short esters, dropping the EQ, adding Tren a and mixing test p with the test c.
100 mg/125 EOD.
This is a basic outline of the protocol for ME!! There are other compounds I'll run the second half to lean out....Your overall mg numbers may be lower, should you choose to do this, but this shit works, (IMO)

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[Vision]

Short-acting and long-acting Nandrolone in the same cycle? I am confused? Never seen that before.

This is actually a pretty effective cocktail I've used it many times over, it's just like any other multiple ester hormone blend, kinda like a mock semi version of sust but with nandrolone..

To the OP.. I would increase your caber intake to .5 two times a week..

[Electromass]

This is actually a pretty effective cocktail I've used it many times over, it's just like any other multiple ester hormone blend, kinda like a mock semi version of sust but with nandrolone..

To the OP.. I would increase your caber intake to .5 two times a week..Yes, truth^^^^^ mixing ling and short, nothing wrong with it.

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[Dungan23]

Using the npp will let me feel the effects of the nandrolone faster and when I end it at week 4 the deca will kick in, so the fact that you’re trying to knock using that much nandrolone proves you don’t know very much at all, I was looking for input and criticism not too be bashed. The reason the test is lower is to minimize the sides that I get from test, not too mention when you run nandrolone higher than test you don’t hold nearly as much water, you get a much denser grainer type of muscle. Thank you electromass for the suggestion i Like your idea unfortunately I don’t have any eq and was planning on starting in the next couple of days. Anyone else got some input for me?!

[Electromass]

Using the npp will let me feel the effects of the nandrolone faster and when I end it at week 4 the deca will kick in, so the fact that you’re trying to knock using that much nandrolone proves you don’t know very much at all, I was looking for input and criticism not too be bashed. The reason the test is lower is to minimize the sides that I get from test, not too mention when you run nandrolone higher than test you don’t hold nearly as much water, you get a much denser grainer type of muscle. Thank you electromass for the suggestion i Like your idea unfortunately I don’t have any eq and was planning on starting in the next couple of days. Anyone else got some input for me?!No problem.... The reason I throw the EQ in is to drive up my hunger a little more. Makes it a little easier to get 5000 plus calories a day.

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[Hatebreed]

Also, with that much Nandrolone and so very little Test, good luck trying to get your penis to work properly. You're gonna be just like dumbbellpress, a limp dick. :coffee1344:


Ive heard that some individuals get limp dick by running there nandrolone higher than there test? However in my experiance my schlong works just fine at a gram of deca and 500mg of test, in fact i feel like a GOD when i run a gram of nandrolone whith almost anything.
PS, dungan, Ive never ran superdroll b4 would like to hear your opinion on how it compares to anadrol wich is my preferred bulking oral.

[Dungan23]

The eq addition isn’t a bad idea, I struggle with getting in 4-4.5k cals, running it at just 400mg for 10 weeks really helps out the appetite? My goal is too put as much weight on the scale so now I’m tossing the eq idea around.

[Mikeyz206]

I would like to see the test come up to 500 a week and the deca no higher than the test @ 500. I like the idea of npp to kick off the deca since deca takes so long to kick In. Good luck to you brother and be safe and have a great cycle I'm sure one of these other brothers will get you dialed in with a perfect cocktail.

[MrBash]

So after seeking advice, and researching quite a bit I’ve come up with the following for a bulk. Stats 5’11” 195lbs 11% bf. Diet 4500 k ed minimum.

Test c 250mg wk 1-16
npp 450mg wk 1-4
deca 600mg wk 1-16
superdrol 30mg wk 12-16
adex .5mg e3d
viagra 100mg as needed
caber .5mg 1x week as needed

im on trt so I don’t have to worry about a pct, anyway let me know what you guys think feel free to contribute input I greatly appreciate it and encoura it, thanks!
I totally understand the short and long nand’s. Hit the npp while the long Easter kicks in. I am currently doing that myself with mast p and e.. why so low on the test? And surmoerdrol is a little high. Myself I have never runnit but from what I gather from any body that has used it 20mg a day is sufficient. Are you prone to gyno issues. And the viagra is for BP or dick issues. I would do this
509mg test 1-16
i would frontload the deca. And yes you can do it. 1200mg the first week and second week and then drop it to 600mg forget about the npp and save some money.
Lower the superdrol. 20mg day. Everything else looks good. This is just what I would do. And yes I front load all long esters. It does work...

[thebear]

Personally I would increase caber to .5 2x a wk. Been there and it helps a ton. Same as others, I personally would increase the testosterone as your base to at least 500mg a wk.


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[Vision]

Personally I would increase caber to .5 2x a wk. Been there and it helps a ton. Same as others, I personally would increase the testosterone as your base to at least 500mg a wk.


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I agreeeeeeee... Get that 1/2 mg in there.. .5 E3D is a game changer.. you don't need much of the stuff but two little doesn't do anything.. it's right down the middle in the Playing field

[cherrybombfitnes]

What’s your experience with nandrolones? That’s way too much nandrolone in my opinion. And your test is extremely low in comparison. Deca and npp have a metabolite that occupies the dht receptor. This is just ONE reason why deca can cause impotence issues. I suggest making the ratio more balanced. Again, what’s your nandrolone experience?


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[cherrybombfitnes]

The eq addition isn’t a bad idea, I struggle with getting in 4-4.5k cals, running it at just 400mg for 10 weeks really helps out the appetite? My goal is too put as much weight on the scale so now I’m tossing the eq idea around.

Yes it can. 300mg a week makes me hungry. It’s the first effect I ever notice personally.


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[Dungan23]

Alright so from everything I’m hearing I’ll up the test to 500mg, as far as my experience with nandrolones, I’ve ran deca 3x before in past cycles. The highest I’ve taken it was to 450mg, as far as sides go I’ve only experienced acne breakouts never had any dick issues in the past, if I consume enough food deca blows me up pretty well. The reason I’ve got viagra in there is simply because I have a script for it but from the sounds of cialis is more beneficial, so I’ll look into getting that switched up. I’ll also up the caber to .5 2x a week, luckily I’ve got a script for that as well. I like the idea of npp because I want a solid kickstart toget me going, I think I’ll lower the npp to 300mg a week instead, I’ve only frontloaded eq in the past and to be honest I wasn’t impressed with the timeframe it took to kick in seemed the same, bash what would be the benefit exactly of front loading the deca, I know you’re very experienced so I’m also strongly considering your advice, you yourself are experimenting with the long ng and short and mentioned how you enjoy it. Lastly I will drop the superdrol to 20mg, so what I’m looking at is:

test c 500mg wk 1-16
npp 300mg wk 1-4
deca 600mg wk 1-16
superdrol 20mg wk 12-16
Adex .5 3x wk
caber .5 2xwk as needed