Var - need a lady's perspective who uses Var.

[meatneck71]

My wife is planning on working out here soon once the new gym down the street is finished being built. She's pretty excited about it and she has been wanting to do this now for some time and she's been dealing with weight gain since she hit 47. She's tiny - 5'4 weighs about 135 (she used to weigh in around 120-125) and has always been fit. Once she gets into the swing of it - 6 months - maybe a bit longer, she was thinking about introducing 5 mgs of var - maybe 10 per day. Of course, she's super concerned about the side effects. I told her that it's the most friendliest towards ladies.

So - I apologize if this seems weird, but I don't see any mention of it anywhere (openly discussed) so if this is a bit forward, I apologize. We all know that orals / steroids can have sides, as most do, but if she were to take var, she's worried about growth of her clitoris. We know that if something like that should occur, she'd stop immediately, but can you tell if something is going on down there if it was actively taking place? For instance, when I'm on gear, my boys down there ache and shrink unless I add HCG to prevent it. Obviously they return to normal. If I get gyno effect, my nips hurt until I add nolva / adex etc. Is this the same for women? Or once it gets large, no return?

[Electromass]

My wife is planning on working out here soon once the new gym down the street is finished being built. She's pretty excited about it and she has been wanting to do this now for some time and she's been dealing with weight gain since she hit 47. She's tiny - 5'4 weighs about 135 (she used to weigh in around 120-125) and has always been fit. Once she gets into the swing of it - 6 months - maybe a bit longer, she was thinking about introducing 5 mgs of var - maybe 10 per day. Of course, she's super concerned about the side effects. I told her that it's the most friendliest towards ladies.

So - I apologize if this seems weird, but I don't see any mention of it anywhere (openly discussed) so if this is a bit forward, I apologize. We all know that orals / steroids can have sides, as most do, but if she were to take var, she's worried about growth of her clitoris. We know that if something like that should occur, she'd stop immediately, but can you tell if something is going on down there if it was actively taking place? For instance, when I'm on gear, my boys down there ache and shrink unless I add HCG to prevent it. Obviously they return to normal. If I get gyno effect, my nips hurt until I add nolva / adex etc. Is this the same for women? Or once it gets large, no return?Deepening of the voice and enlarged clitoris are permanent bro.

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[MrsBot]

I'm on my third var cycle. It's not painful and actually not very noticeable at all, if anything it just becomes a little fatter and might stick out a little bit from the lips. I thought this would be something that would freak me out or look weird, but I found that it became more sensitive and Mr. Bot and I enjoy it very much. Once off var both times, it went back to normal after a few weeks. Nothing crippling or unattractive at all. I actually miss it when it's gone.

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[GymPrincess]

If she is just starting in the gym she doesnt need any gear. I personally dont think gear should be introduced until several years of natural training. She can get results without it. A good diet along with weight training and hiit/cardio will lead her to what she is looking for.

However to answer your question, it's like mrs. Bot said. It is actaully a plus and nothing weird. Usually kinda sad when it goes away. So yea it will shrink back down once she ends cycle. With 5mg of var I dont see her seeing any sides anyways. 5mg is a mild dose and she should be fine of any sides. But back to what i said. Save the gear for the future. In 6 months you will see she doesnt need it, IF she is eating good and sticking to training.

If her goal is weight loss I am a big fan of an eca stack. This will help her burn more per workout/hiit/cardio session. If the gym will offer it spin classes are really nice

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[GymPrincess]

I'm on my third var cycle. It's not painful and actually not very noticeable at all, if anything it just becomes a little fatter and might stick out a little bit from the lips. I thought this would be something that would freak me out or look weird, but I found that it became more sensitive and Mr. Bot and I enjoy it very much. Once off var both times, it went back to normal after a few weeks. Nothing crippling or unattractive at all. I actually miss it when it's gone.

Sent from my SM-N960U using TapatalkI love how you explained this Haha. It's a sad time when it shrinks back down [emoji2962]

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[GymPrincess]

Deepening of the voice and enlarged clitoris are permanent bro.

Sent from my SM-G965U using TapatalkThat's not always true my man.

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[MrsBot]

I love how you explained this Haha. It's a sad time when it shrinks back down [emoji2962]

Sent from my SM-G955U using TapatalkSad times in deed! [emoji24][emoji24][emoji24]

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[jbstafford290]

My wife is currently using 10 mg ed of var and she loves it. No sides or enlarged clit. I just inspected it today lol

[meatneck71]

Thanks everyone for your input. I'm not encouraging her at all and in fact, I would prefer her to workout at least a year before even touching it. I want to make sure that she's in this seriously and not just a fad. I always thought that once it gets enlarged it stays that way forever, but that's good to know. Doesn't bother me one bit, so we'll see :)

[MrsBot]

Thanks everyone for your input. I'm not encouraging her at all and in fact, I would prefer her to workout at least a year before even touching it. I want to make sure that she's in this seriously and not just a fad. I always thought that once it gets enlarged it stays that way forever, but that's good to know. Doesn't bother me one bit, so we'll see :)I was in the gym atleast a year before starting! It's been an awesome experience training and running gear with my husband! Wish y'all the best.

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[trhero]

My wife is currently using 10 mg ed of var and she loves it. No sides or enlarged clit. I just inspected it today lol
Routine inspection and maintenance are key!

[mrsrobinson]

My wife is planning on working out here soon once the new gym down the street is finished being built. She's pretty excited about it and she has been wanting to do this now for some time and she's been dealing with weight gain since she hit 47. She's tiny - 5'4 weighs about 135 (she used to weigh in around 120-125) and has always been fit. Once she gets into the swing of it - 6 months - maybe a bit longer, she was thinking about introducing 5 mgs of var - maybe 10 per day. Of course, she's super concerned about the side effects. I told her that it's the most friendliest towards ladies.

So - I apologize if this seems weird, but I don't see any mention of it anywhere (openly discussed) so if this is a bit forward, I apologize. We all know that orals / steroids can have sides, as most do, but if she were to take var, she's worried about growth of her clitoris. We know that if something like that should occur, she'd stop immediately, but can you tell if something is going on down there if it was actively taking place? For instance, when I'm on gear, my boys down there ache and shrink unless I add HCG to prevent it. Obviously they return to normal. If I get gyno effect, my nips hurt until I add nolva / adex etc. Is this the same for women? Or once it gets large, no return?


all good considerations...as someone who's a little bit older than your mrs. I would consider a few things while shes getting back at it. She is probably starting to head into her "change" and weight gain happens unfortunately. I fought my pcp on this for years, but its true, need less calories when the hormones tank :( She also might want to consider having her thyroid checked, problems with it are pretty common as we age and she should make certain to ask her doctor for free t3 & t4 along with TSH. They always just want to do TSH and that wont tell you squat. A female hormone panel would probably be good as well. She may have low T (nope, not kidding LOL) and TINY doses of it might make her feel pretty good. I did 20-30 a week when I was going through it and YAAAY, only thing that woke up my dying libido. Knowing where these are all at before she starts is helpful so shes not spinning her wheels and getting frustrated. Its a little different for a more..."mature" woman :) The medical community is super supportive of you gentlemen losing your "mojo" but for us ladies...not so much.
Love Var, my favorite compound and have run it several times, gives nice strength gains without much in the way of sides. And sad to say....the "enlargement" goes away :( BUMMER …. No need for pct and she wont need to take anything else to combat any other effects. It wont help with weight loss but would add some muscle and give some strength gains.

[bigpapapumpaf]

I agree with what MrsRobinson said but I would also urge you to make 100% sure you get var not some cheap substitute. What some claim to be var is actually dbol and that's a whole different issue. Find something pharma, not home brewed. She's your wife, so spend accordingly please.

Side effects should be zero to none at 5mg. I had my wife up to 25mg without any issues but she started out well under weight and weak due to an eating disorder. Her next cycle will be 5 mg.

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[meatneck71]

all good considerations...as someone who's a little bit older than your mrs. I would consider a few things while shes getting back at it. She is probably starting to head into her "change" and weight gain happens unfortunately. I fought my pcp on this for years, but its true, need less calories when the hormones tank :( She also might want to consider having her thyroid checked, problems with it are pretty common as we age and she should make certain to ask her doctor for free t3 & t4 along with TSH. They always just want to do TSH and that wont tell you squat. A female hormone panel would probably be good as well. She may have low T (nope, not kidding LOL) and TINY doses of it might make her feel pretty good. I did 20-30 a week when I was going through it and YAAAY, only thing that woke up my dying libido. Knowing where these are all at before she starts is helpful so shes not spinning her wheels and getting frustrated. Its a little different for a more..."mature" woman :) The medical community is super supportive of you gentlemen losing your "mojo" but for us ladies...not so much.
Love Var, my favorite compound and have run it several times, gives nice strength gains without much in the way of sides. And sad to say....the "enlargement" goes away :( BUMMER …. No need for pct and she wont need to take anything else to combat any other effects. It wont help with weight loss but would add some muscle and give some strength gains.

Very true what you said there. She did have her thyroid checked and it was a little bit off, so they gave her some low dose for it. I would love for her to get her full panel done on her next visit, but one mention of testosterone and she immediately thinks - I don't want to look like a dude. lol. I explained to her that even women can get low on testosterone, and I'm sure she doesn't want to deal with the needles. It's funny how she lets doctor's inject her without any issue, but if I come at her with a needle, it's the most horrifying thing in the world. lol!!! I've injected her with bpc in the past to help with a shoulder injury and she was good with it. I'll start her out on var at 5 mgs a day, up to 5 twice a day and go from there.

Personally, I never knew that var helps with fat loss, and it actually does. I was always stuck at a certain weight and strength during my cycles. I began running var at the beginning of the cycle weighing in at 194. I dropped to 183 and still maintained strength. I weighed in a few days ago at 179. I'm trying to get a little leaner (hoping for 170-175) with introducing var for the next 8 weeks. I read some more research on var and it validated the claims on fat loss.

Now, while I do have real var - 25 mgs caps, I can split that into 5 doses using my microgram scale, but does anyone know off hand of anyone here that sells lady var? I remember seeing it somewhere, but I just don't have time to go looking for it. If no one knows, I will dig into the forums :)

thanks again for everyone's advice.. You all have been awesome shedding insight into this compound.

[meatneck71]

all good considerations...as someone who's a little bit older than your mrs. I would consider a few things while shes getting back at it. She is probably starting to head into her "change" and weight gain happens unfortunately. I fought my pcp on this for years, but its true, need less calories when the hormones tank :( She also might want to consider having her thyroid checked, problems with it are pretty common as we age and she should make certain to ask her doctor for free t3 & t4 along with TSH. They always just want to do TSH and that wont tell you squat. A female hormone panel would probably be good as well. She may have low T (nope, not kidding LOL) and TINY doses of it might make her feel pretty good. I did 20-30 a week when I was going through it and YAAAY, only thing that woke up my dying libido. Knowing where these are all at before she starts is helpful so shes not spinning her wheels and getting frustrated. Its a little different for a more..."mature" woman :) The medical community is super supportive of you gentlemen losing your "mojo" but for us ladies...not so much.
Love Var, my favorite compound and have run it several times, gives nice strength gains without much in the way of sides. And sad to say....the "enlargement" goes away :( BUMMER …. No need for pct and she wont need to take anything else to combat any other effects. It wont help with weight loss but would add some muscle and give some strength gains.

Do you ever run nolva for pct? I have read and heard from most experienced users that there isn't a need to run pct for 10mg a day 4-6 weeks for the ladies. My wife went ahead and tried this anyways and she absolutely loved the var, gained decent muscle, sex drive through the roof, and lost some weight. However, 1 week post, she's experiencing no sex drive, same here (we're both in pct and we know it's understandable) , but things are slowly coming back to life. Just curious if any of the ladies here run the nolvadex or anything for pct.

[Johnjuanb1]

Routine inspection and maintenance are key!
I believe there is a mandatory taste test required as well.
Tuna ✅
Hotdog (no es bueno)

[IRISHOAK]

My wife just finished a Var cycle. She is also short and around 120lbs. She did 4 weeks at 10mg/day split 5/5 am & dinner time. Dont take too close to bedtime because it stimulates the central nervous sustem and can keep her awake.
My wife had great energy, great recomp & strength increases. Minor clit swelling, we both enjoyed it. It went right back to normal about a week later. Lol. Dont believe the horror stories. If she stays under 20mg/day she should be fine. I recommend a short 4 week run at 10mg/day... This would be a test run to she how it treats here more than a "gains" cycle. Of it comes out fine. Wait 30days. Tale milk thistle for liver recovery amd then she can do another 4-6 week cycle and go for gains. My wife will be posting a detailed review in the Sparta subforum once the sponsor subs are back.

[meatneck71]

Oak,

Man we totally loved that var. Yeah her clit swelled a little bit, but she finally knew what it was like to be like a teenage boy. hahaha. Everything stimulated her and we were always have some awesome sex.. Some of the best I might add. She turned into a monster hahahahaha. However, she got carried away and took a tad more in the cycle 15-20 on some days. she just felt so good and young. She's 49 now and looks like she's barely 30. However, it's been almost a month 1/4 and she's still shut down. Her bloods came back with 8 test and estrogen was sort of in the normal low range but her fsh was really high. She really didn't do much nolva or anything after the cycle and now she's shutdown. Her test shows that she's in post menopause! lol. She was fine and sex drive was always good before cycle. What would you recommend that she can take to help restore her natural test levels? I have hcg , nolva, clomid, on hand.

On a side note, I also messed up the end of my cycle and I was sooooo shut down it wasn't funny. I think at one point I was 0 and stayed around 32 and 74 for awhile. I only did nolva for my pct because I hate clomid, but this was a different cycle, test prop / var (test prop eod var 50mg) I ran eq and ended it a few weeks before I went into pct, but I didn't realize and forgot how vicious eq is and it was still active in my system while I was trying to get my pct started. I finally caved in bought some clomid and ran that 140ed nolva 40, second week lowered and 3rd week lower, ended 4th week. At the beginning of that, I bought some natural testosterone boosters and wow, that stuff really does help!! I couldn't believe it. I'm still taking it and my sex drive is up and healthy erections. before I ran my cycle mediocre. and no I didn't get a test :( Itr's been almost 2 months and I have a test on hold, but maybe way until the end of january.

Sorry, I'm super tired and i'm babbling. hahah. but serious help for the wifey, if your wife knows anything about restoring natural test. She bought some natural test booster for women and some swedish plant that supposedly stops the hotflashes and cold sweats she gets from being in menopause. I'm wondering if she triggered it with var, but it doesn't feel like it to me. The test shows her in post menopause and she never was in meno to begin with , so It has to be the hormones are off from the cycle.

Thanks,

[IRISHOAK]

Wait... Are you saying your wife took nolvadex because she was on Var?

[meatneck71]

Well since I haven't received an update from any of the ladies, I suggested that the mrs start taking some test booster and ryzen flower that helps with the "menopause" like symptoms. Blood test revealed that she was postmenopausal and she didn't even get any of the beginning symptoms. I kind of figured it was her body reacting to turning back on. Those pills really helped her get started again and she's been taking them now for a few weeks. Things are starting to return to normal. She definitely loved the var, but she won't touch it again because the sides were too much, just shut down like I was, felt strange to her. I told her she went crazy with it and amped up the var way to high for the last two weeks and that's probably the reason why she got shut down so hard. I think she should of only did 2 or 4 weeks, but she wanted to flat out 6 weeks once the sex drive kicked in. I wish she was brave enough to give herself a 10mg shot of test every once in a while. I think that would set her straight in that department.. ooh la la.

[IRISHOAK]

Well since I haven't received an update from any of the ladies, I suggested that the mrs start taking some test booster and ryzen flower that helps with the "menopause" like symptoms. Blood test revealed that she was postmenopausal and she didn't even get any of the beginning symptoms. I kind of figured it was her body reacting to turning back on. Those pills really helped her get started again and she's been taking them now for a few weeks. Things are starting to return to normal. She definitely loved the var, but she won't touch it again because the sides were too much, just shut down like I was, felt strange to her. I told her she went crazy with it and amped up the var way to high for the last two weeks and that's probably the reason why she got shut down so hard. I think she should of only did 2 or 4 weeks, but she wanted to flat out 6 weeks once the sex drive kicked in. I wish she was brave enough to give herself a 10mg shot of test every once in a while. I think that would set her straight in that department.. ooh la la.

Womens cycles are different from guys. Women dont pct like guys. If she takes an estrogen inhibitor like nolvadex or any other ai, its going to drop her estrogen. No estrogen, no sexdrive.
Never give women anti-estrogens.
The var cycle is simple. On for 4 weeks at 20mg/day or less, then off. Thats it.
My wife is on her 3rd and she has no issues on or off. Sexdrive increases on it, goes back to normal when off.

At 49, your wife due for menopause brother. She may have just reached it at the same time she was running her gear. Adding exogenous hormones when the body is already in hormonal flux naturally is going make things chaotic.
Also, pick a dose amd keep it consistent. Starting at 10mg/day and then ramping up to 20, and then coming off is not the way to go. Too much of a rollercoaster, esp at her age.
A first cycle of anything should be a LOW and CONSISTENT dose for a short period to guage the body's reaction.
The first run is not for gains, its to test the waters.