Androgenic to Anabolic Ratios took me forever to find this

[supermansdaddy]

Androgenic to Anabolic Ratios


Compound:---------------------------------Androgenic------Anabolic
1-Testosterone------------------------------------100------200
Anabolicum Vister(Quinbolone)(oral Boldenone)--------50------100
Anadrol 50(Oxymetholone)---------------------------45------320
Anadur(Nandrolone Hexyloxyphenylpropionate)---------37-----125
Anatrofin(Stenbolone Acetate)------------------107-144-----267-332
Anavar(Oxandrolone)--------------------------------24------322-630
Andractim(Dihydrotestosteron)-------------------30-260-----60-220
Andriol(Testosterone Undecanoate)-----------------100------100
Androderm(Testosterone)---------------------------100------100
Androgel(Testosterone)-----------------------------100------100
Boldabol(Boldenone Acetate)-------------------------50------100
Cheque Drops(Mibolerone)-------------------------1,800------4,100
Danocrine(Danazol)----------------------------------37------125
Deca-Durabolin(Nandrolone Decanoate)---------------37------125
Deposterona(Testosterone Blend)-------------------100------100
Dianabol(Methandrostenolone)--------------------40-60------90-210
Dimethyltrienolone------------------------------10,000+-----10,000+
Dinandrol(Nandrolone Blend)--------------------------37------125
Durabolin(NPP)--------------------------------------37------125
Dynabol(Nandrolone Cypionate)----------------------37------125
Equipoise(Boldenone Undecylenate)------------------50------100
Esiclene(Formebolone)----------------------------No Data Available
Genabol(Norbolethone)------------------------------17------350
Halotestin(Fluoxymesterone)-----------------------850------1,900
Hydroxytestosterone--------------------------------25------65
Laurabolin(Nandrolone Laurate)----------------------37------125
Madol(Desoxymethyltestosterone)------------------187------1,200
Masteron(Drostanolone Propionate)---------------25-40------62-130
Megagrisevit-Mono(Clostebol Acetate)---------------25------46
MENT(Methylnortestosterone Acetate)--------------650------2,300
Mestanolone-----------------------------------78-254------107
Methandriol(Mythelandrostenediol)----------------30-60------20-60
Methyl-1-Testosterone------------------------100-220------910-1,600
Methyldienolone-------------------------------200-300------1,000
Methylhydroxynandrolone(MHN)---------------------281------1304
Methyltestosterone-----------------------------94-130------115-150
Metribolone(Methyltrienolone)---------------6,000-7,000------12,000-30,000
Miotolan(Furazabol)------------------------------73-94------270-330
Myagen(Bolasterone)-------------------------------300------575
Nilevar(Norethandrolone)-------------------------22-55------100-200
Omnadren(Testosterone Blend)---------------------100------100
Orabolin(Ethylestrenol)--------------------------20-400------200-400
Oral Turinabol------------------------------------None------100+
Oranabol(Oxymesterone)----------------------------50------330
Orgasteron(Normethandrolone)-----------------325-580------110-125
Parabolan(Tren Hexahydrobenzycarbonate)----------500------500
Primobolan(Methenolone Acetate)-----------------44-57------88
Primobolan Depot(Methenolone Enanthate)--------44-57------88
Prostanozol----------------------------------------n/a------n/a
Protabol(Thiomesterone)----------------------------61------456
Proviron(Mesterolone)---------------------------30-40------100-150
Sanabolicum(Nandrolone Cyclohexylpropionate)------37------125
Steranabol Ritardo(Oxabolone Cypionate)---------20-60------50-90
Superdrol(Methyldrostanolone)---------------------400------20
Sustanon 100 & 250-------------------------------100------100
Synovex(Testosterone Propionate & Estradiol)-------100------100
Test 400------------------------------------------100------100
Test Enanthate/Cypionate/Propionate/Susp & Blends-100------100
THG(Tetrahydrogestrinone)-----------------------No Data Available
Tren Acetate/Enanthate & Blends-------------------500------500
Winstrol(Stanozolol)---------------------------------30------320

[unclem]

thats surprising the ratio difference in drol, wow. great post. formebolone is more anabolic then androgenic but i dont know the ratio . this will be nice if your having hair issues lol. i think its a stickie as its very informative to no the ratios of each drug.

[Shovel]

Halo looks CRAZY!

[slick]

Can you explain to noobs like me what those numbers mean....ahahaha

[Flathead]

Metribolone(Methyltrienolone)---------------6,000-7,000------12,000-30,000


What in the hell is this stuff?

[supermansdaddy]

Androgenic: Pertaining to the development of male characteristics, including body hair, the genital organs and muscle mass. "Androgenic" is the adjective form of the noun "androgen," a word referring to any of the male hormones, including testosterone and androsterone.
Androgenic development -- that is, the development of male characteristics -- begins in puberty, the time when a person becomes physically capable of producing offspring. In males, this time most commonly occurs between ages 12 and 14. A deepening voice is one of the signs of androgenic activity.
Androgen is produced in males by the testes, the two globe-shaped reproductive organs below the penis, and by the adrenal glands, two small hormone-producing organs that each sit atop a kidney. Androgen is also produced in females in the adrenal glands. Overproduction of androgen can generate some male characteristics in women and exaggerate male characteristics in men. "Androgenic" is derived from the Greek words "andros" (man) and "genein" (to produce)." Related words include "androgynous" (having both male and female characteristics), "andrology" (the study of health in males), "androphobia" (fear of men) and "android" (in science fiction, a manlike robot).

Anabolism (Greek "mound" from ana = upward + ballein = "to throw") is the set of metabolic pathways (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metabolic_pathway) that construct molecules from smaller units.[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anabolic#cite_note-0) These reactions require energy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy). One way of categorizing metabolic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metabolic) processes, whether at the cellular (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cell_(biology)), organ or organism level is as 'anabolic' or as 'catabolic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catabolism)', which is the opposite. Anabolism is powered by catabolism, where large molecules are broken down into smaller parts and then used up in respiration (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellular_respiration). Many anabolic processes are powered by adenosine triphosphate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adenosine_triphosphate) (ATP).[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anabolic#cite_note-1)
Anabolic processes tend toward "building up" organs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organ_(biology)) and tissues (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tissue_(biology)). These processes produce growth and differentiation of cells and increase in body size, a process that involves synthesis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_synthesis) of complex molecules (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molecule). Examples of anabolic processes include the growth and mineralization of bone (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bone) and increases in muscle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscle) mass.
Endocrinologists (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endocrinologist) have traditionally classified hormones (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hormone) as anabolic or catabolic, depending on which part of metabolism they stimulate. The classic anabolic hormones are the anabolic steroids (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anabolic_steroid), which stimulate protein synthesis and muscle growth. The balance between anabolism and catabolism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catabolism) is also regulated by circadian rhythms (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circadian_rhythm), with processes such as glucose metabolism fluctuating to match an animal's normal periods of activity throughout the day

Some examples of the anabolic effects of these hormones are increased protein synthesis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protein_biosynthesis) from amino acids (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amino_acid), increased appetite, increased bone remodeling and growth, and stimulation of bone marrow (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bone_marrow), which increases the production of red blood cells (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_blood_cell). Through a number of mechanisms (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anabolic_steroid#Mechanism_of_action) anabolic steroids stimulate the formation of muscle cells and hence cause an increase in the size of skeletal muscles (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skeletal_muscles), leading to increased strength.[26] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anabolic_steroid#cite_note-25)[27] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anabolic_steroid#cite_note-26)[28] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anabolic_steroid#cite_note-27)
The androgenic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Androgenic) effects of AAS are numerous. Processes affected include pubertal growth, sebaceous gland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sebaceous_gland) oil production, and sexuality (especially in fetal development). Some examples of virilizing effects are growth of the clitoris (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clitoral_hypertrophy) in females and the penis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penis) in male children (the adult penis does not grow even when exposed to high doses of androgens), increased growth of androgen-sensitive hair (pubic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pubic_hair), beard, chest, and limb hair), increased vocal cord (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vocal_cord) size, deepening the voice, increased libido (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libido), suppression of natural (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endogenous) sex hormones (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_hormone), and impaired production of sperm (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spermatogenesis).[29] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anabolic_steroid#cite_note-28)
The androgenic:anabolic ratio of an AAS is an important factor when determining the clinical application of these compounds. Compounds with a high ratio of androgenic to a anabolic effects are the drug of choice in androgen-replacement therapy (e.g. treating hypogonadism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypogonadism) in males), whereas compounds with a reduced androgenic:anabolic ratio are preferred for anemia, osteoporosis, and to reverse protein loss following trauma, surgery or prolonged immobilization. Determination of androgenic:anabolic ratio is typically performed in animal studies, which has led to the marketing of some compounds claimed to have anabolic activity with weak androgenic effects. This disassociation is less marked in humans, where all anabolic steroids have significant androgenic effects.[16] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anabolic_steroid#cite_note-Chr-15)
A commonly used protocol for determining the androgenic:anabolic ratio, dating back to the 1950s, uses the relative weights of ventral prostate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostate) (VP) and levator ani (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Levator_ani) muscle (LA) of male rats (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laboratory_rat). The VP weight is an indicator of the androgenic effect, while the LA weight is an indicator of the anabolic effect. Two or more batches of rats are castrated (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castrated) and given no treatment and respectively some AAS of interest. The LA/VP ratio for an AAS is calculated as the ratio of LA/VP weight gains produced by the treatment with that compound using castrated but untreated rats as baseline: (LAc,t–LAc)/(VPc,t–VPc). The LA/VP weight gain ratio from rat experiments is not unitary for testosterone (typically 0.3–0.4), but it's normalized for presentation purposes, and used as basis of comparison for other AAS, which have their androgenic:anabolic ratios scaled accordingly (as shown in the table above).[30] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anabolic_steroid#cite_note-29)[22] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anabolic_steroid#cite_note-pmid9593936-21) In the early 2000s this procedure was standardized and generalized throughout OECD (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OECD) in what is now known as the Hershberger assay (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hershberger_assay&action=edit&redlink=1).


We can make it simple for our purpose's and say one is a strength builder while the other is a better mass builder.

Peace and Love

[slick]

The androgenic:anabolic ratio of an AAS is an important factor when determining the clinical application of these compounds. Compounds with a high ratio of androgenic to a anabolic effects are the drug of choice in androgen-replacement therapy (e.g. treating hypogonadism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypogonadism) in males), whereas compounds with a reduced androgenic:anabolic ratio are preferred for anemia, osteoporosis, and to reverse protein loss following trauma, surgery or prolonged immobilization. Determination of androgenic:anabolic ratio is typically performed in animal studies, which has led to the marketing of some compounds claimed to have anabolic activity with weak androgenic effects. This disassociation is less marked in humans, where all anabolic steroids have significant androgenic effects.[16] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anabolic_steroid#cite_note-Chr-15)
A commonly used protocol for determining the androgenic:anabolic ratio, dating back to the 1950s, uses the relative weights of ventral prostate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostate) (VP) and levator ani (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Levator_ani) muscle (LA) of male rats (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laboratory_rat). The VP weight is an indicator of the androgenic effect, while the LA weight is an indicator of the anabolic effect. Two or more batches of rats are castrated (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castrated) and given no treatment and respectively some AAS of interest. The LA/VP ratio for an AAS is calculated as the ratio of LA/VP weight gains produced by the treatment with that compound using castrated but untreated rats as baseline: (LAc,t?LAc)/(VPc,t?VPc). The LA/VP weight gain ratio from rat experiments is not unitary for testosterone (typically 0.3?0.4), but it's normalized for presentation purposes, and used as basis of comparison for other AAS, which have their androgenic:anabolic ratios scaled accordingly (as shown in the table above).[30] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anabolic_steroid#cite_note-29)[22] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anabolic_steroid#cite_note-pmid9593936-21) In the early 2000s this procedure was standardized and generalized throughout OECD (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OECD) in what is now known as the Hershberger assay (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hershberger_assay&action=edit&redlink=1).


We can make it simple for our purpose's and say one is a strength builder while the other is a better mass builder.

Peace and Love

that is what i needed to know....lol

[Biggin]

Metribolone(Methyltrienolone)---------------6,000-7,000------12,000-30,000


What in the hell is this stuff?

It's Oral Tren. Excellent gains from my experience at 500mcgs/ed for 3-4 weeks at maximum. Very toxic, very. But can be taken with no issues if all Liver Support is utilised correctly. Very Good oral, just toxic, that's the main issue and reason the cycle needs to stay at 3-4 weeks. But the gains in that time is Ridiculous from my experience, I like it personally, but only run methyltrienolone 1-2xs a year..

[unclem]

fh its very easy if u no your andro/ anabolic ratios. both are even at test levels 100 to 100 so if your taking tren versus deca theres a anabolic/ deca and tren/ androgenic if u use those scales u can determine wat will effect your body more. like hair loss, its bad if u use andro versus anabolic. and theres alot behind it but u can tell how a steroid will effect the body by either andro or anabolic. the ratios are already predertermined. its hard for me to explain bro. anabolic drugs are used for certain disorders by ratio as are androgens are also used for more type problems. but i was shocked when i seen the turn out of drol as that produces more rbc as to the ratio difference. its dht and all type of shit but if u go by it , it can help ya put together a good cycle with both androgens/ anabolics. i liked it very informative. but all gear has both types to wat degree is the difference to see wat u can use to make your decsions on things as strength you want more androgens versus anabolics u want more cell volume to ur muscles. its just a thing to guide u through your cycle. no ur andros/ anabolics u got it down. the ratios are of some importance as i can tell wat a drug will do to my prostate by the ratios mixture of andros versus anabolics. i hope i made some sense too u guys. but use it and ull avoid alot of unesscesarry problems with different reactions to dht to other stuff. i no i probably made it more confusing but i no it so its easier to no it then express it.

[Biggin]

Biggin concurs with unclem, Solid Advice and Info right there Imo..

[suraonyx23]

Very good post. Alot of great info.

[Roaddkingg]

Very good information.
Thanks for shareing. It just confirmed what I think is a great cycle, test & tren.
100-100 & 500-500. Looks like a grear ratio to me.

[unclem]

try test and eq or deca or a good anabolic bro. tren is your andro now eq i think would be good for u at 1 gr wk for 20 wks. the ratios are set in stone but there to close in tren, test. just my thoughts. u neeed a anabolic.

[TankZ71]

Metribolone(Methyltrienolone)---------------6,000-7,000------12,000-30,000


What in the hell is this stuff?

Bro that's some heavy shit there. Know as the Liver Killer.
I've read about people who took this and had to have liver transplants.

[VictorZ06]

Great post SD! And an even better new avitar my friend!!


/V

[PAiN]

Awesome info!!!!

[unclem]

TANK, well the inject kills your kidneys if ur not smart enough to flush w/ h2o and organ protector for ur kidneys. its a good oral.

[Biggin]

Biggin concurs with unclem on Oral Tren! It's definitely GTG as long as All Necessary Precautions are Executed Properly from my experience. I run it 1-2xs a year with excellent results, Strongest Oral I have ever taken..Just need to make sure Ur Source gets Good Powder so the Tren is dosed properly..

[Flathead]

The information here is through the roof!!!!!

[LightBearer]

how is the anadrol androgen rating only 50? i head that shit has beast androgenic sides

[joeblow12345]

Nice post

[ErikGearhead]

This makes me want to jump on the superdrol train....think im gonna throw that in my next cycle. :]

[Misterb]

That Dimethyltrienolone sounds like interesting stuff , wonder how long you can use these without serious sides

[Boltbreaker]

Awesome shit!!

[jaygeee]

good shit bro. I like to learn stuff like this, very interesting.

[Gopro]

So, I know i may sound like the biggest dumb ass ever, but when you see a ratio like 94-254 is that good? Or a ratio like 500-500 is good? Im guessing the more balanced the better? Or does it depend on the effects in the body you are wanting?

[Gopro]

Bump?

[Gopro]

????

[HFO3]

awesome info!

gopro, there nothing wrong with that ratio at all. Ratios help the user determine what might work best for their goals:)

this thread is stickied on other boards! This man gave some good info and is a legacy amongst brothers for the such:)

[Gopro]

Awesome, thank you man. This is some amazing info, i need to learn more of the fundamentals behind AAS's instead of just how, how much, and when to use them correctly. I really want to know the facts and mechanics of AAS's!!!!

[Butters]

I have seen this before & always assumed it was true without thinking why. A bit back,when reading about it I read several times...that this information was derived from a study of growth in rat Prostates. I remember a study about rat prostates determining how androgens things are, but that is all.

If someone can dig up how this was all determined it would would help a lot of people.

[neal]

Amazing info

[Dbolish]

I have seen this before & always assumed it was true without thinking why. A bit back,when reading about it I read several times...that this information was derived from a study of growth in rat Prostates. I remember a study about rat prostates determining how androgens things are, but that is all.

If someone can dig up how this was all determined it would would help a lot of people.

yep it was a study on rats, and these ratios have minimal real world application

[cybrsage]

Can you explain to noobs like me what those numbers mean....ahahaha

Testosterone is the substance used as the norm. It has 100 androgenic and 100 anabolism. All other substances are then compared to it, so a substance with 50/50 is about half as powerful as testosterone. 200/200 would be twice as powerful as testosterone. Supermansdaddy explained androgenic and anabolism very well, no need to repeat it.

[Dbolish]

Testosterone is the substance used as the norm. It has 100 androgenic and 100 anabolism. All other substances are then compared to it, so a substance with 50/50 is about half as powerful as testosterone. 200/200 would be twice as powerful as testosterone. Supermansdaddy explained androgenic and anabolism very well, no need to repeat it.

its not that simple at all. tren isnt 5x as strong as test. and look at halo, has a crazy rating but is a poor mass builder

[halfApint]

After looking at this a few times, it seems like anavar and winstrol are great compounds simply based off of this chart. Too bad when I ran winny it was bunk. God I hope EGHs anavar is the real deal.

[rustyco]

After looking at this a few times, it seems like anavar and winstrol are great compounds simply based off of this chart. Too bad when I ran winny it was bunk. God I hope EGHs anavar is the real deal.
Egh is legit bro!

[wildcat03]

supermansdaddy that was an awsome post. I have never seen a list like that. This should be a sticky as it is valuable information. Great explanation on anabolic and androgenic

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[Oldskool]

Thx for the info

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[wlc]

A little context - all these ratios are from studies on castrated rats. "Anabolic" is how much their levator ani muscle increases in weight under the drug ("lifting the anus" muscle, that receives zero exercise under normal conditions) compared to its increase under testosterone injections and "Androgenic" is how much their prostate mass increases. Needless to say that even in pigs and cattle (hello tren) those ratios are different and their metabolism is way closer to a human one.