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gitkrunk
06-28-2019, 01:13 AM
So got some powders form a source on the board. Well know and used often by others.

used steroidal cal to brew up tren e 200mg.ml

used
BA from med-lab-supplies at 2%
BB from med-lab supplies at 20%
MCT oil from dr. adorable

was going for 70ml so i ended up just filling 6 vials with 70 ml and wasted some trying to figure out wtf was going on.
14g powder
1.4ml BA
14ml BB
41.87ml MCT


measured powder on my analytical scale
measured BA,BB using graduated cylinders "class A"

added the powder,BA,BB to a beaker and stirred and covered for like 10mins

threw it all on the magnetic hotplate added the MCT and set to 100C and stir to #5.

Everything is crystal clear after 30-40 mins of heating and mixing, i let it cool down to 100F and used a .22um pvdf syringe filter... goes into the sterile vials cloudy. after the vials sit you can see a separation.

What am i doing wrong? Is this crashed gear? do i have some bad products or solvents?

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THX
06-28-2019, 07:30 AM
Not all MCT-oils are the same.
You really don't have to heat it up, specially not that much. Tren enanthate has a melting point of like 75 degrees Celsius. I wouldn't go above 40 degrees Celsius with any compound.
There are many things that could have gone wrong. Human error, bad solvents, wrong raws.

gitkrunk
06-28-2019, 07:32 AM
Which mct oil do you recommend ? Also solvent brand ?

jackofspades
06-28-2019, 12:45 PM
It’s difficult to pinpoint.
But, yes, your compound is not holding in solution.
I used cottonseed oil for years - some BA/BB as you - and heated to 275F for 30 minutes, then filtered.
A few times I wasn’t paying close enough attention and I had things not hold in solution.
Hate to tell you - but your only choice is to trash it.
Are you using a powders conversion calculator? There’s a few good ones on line that make things easier.

gitkrunk
06-28-2019, 09:38 PM
using steroidcal.com if i warm it up under hot water of the sink or something it goes clear and can't see any separation.

THX
06-30-2019, 08:00 AM
using steroidcal.com if i warm it up under hot water of the sink or something it goes clear and can't see any separation. I've seen a lot of people use NOW brand mct. Filter it again and see if that helps. Don't go abow 40-50 degrees Celsius when you heat it up.

Enigma
06-30-2019, 02:39 PM
That’s a pretty odd result.
What I would do if it were my problem:

Dump back into a beaker. Heat again until into nice solution like before. I personally would heat it to 100c to clear any moisture just in case that is the problem. (I don’t subscribe to the “Too much heat” concept. Although I don’t usually go above 75c for anything.)
Let cool under stir. Leave in beaker for two or three days or place liquid in a media bottle.
If it doesn’t crash, reheat and filter.

I once had two liters of tren ace look beautiful but then cloudy after filtering. I suspected the filter was flawed in some way. I used the process described above and it was perfect on second filter.
Downside? A shitload of work and waste dumping all those vials. Not to mention the $60 capsule filters.




p.s. Nice equipment for a home brewer. Good on ya!

gitkrunk
07-01-2019, 12:08 AM
I’ll gIve it a try :)

gitkrunk
07-11-2019, 09:29 PM
changed brands of MCT oil and solvents no issues anymore. I think it was the MCT oil more than anything.

THX
07-11-2019, 09:36 PM
changed brands of MCT oil and solvents no issues anymore. I think it was the MCT oil more than anything.

It's so hard to know what went wrong. Keep it simple and do what others do is the best advice I can give.

Enigma
07-12-2019, 05:27 PM
It looked like the hormone went into solution but the solvents weren’t oleophilic or resisted for some reason. Like I said, strange result.
Makes me wonder if all the hormone is still there in the solvents but none of the solvent stayed in the oil. Not exactly what I’d call “crashing”.

SloppyJ
07-21-2019, 02:11 PM
Hope you didn't trash it because you can save it. Worst case, take everything out of the vials and start over. Best case, add a little BB to them in the vials and heat in a heating pad. It will reduce your dosage but if it's usable that's all that matters.

NewSchool82
07-27-2019, 01:48 PM
changed brands of MCT oil and solvents no issues anymore. I think it was the MCT oil more than anything.
Which brands did you change to?