Show me your bulk

[Drillit]

So the end of summertime is staring us down and bulking season is on the horizon! What’s everybody running for their bulk cycles or blasts this season?
Here’s mine:

1500 test/week
350 npp/week
200 tren/ week
50 DBOL pwo
10 nolva/ day
50-60 slin/ day
5iu GH
25 MK 677

[winstrolsvegan]

500 mg T Cyp / week
300 mg Deca / week
30 mg Epistane first 4 weeks
25 mg MK677 throughout

my cycle is weak sauce lol but it gets the job done for now, im a big fan of nolva when using 19-nors cool to see another brother who has similar experience. your in for one hell of a ride have fun and make some crazy gains i love tren and Deca together great results to be had.

[Skizzen]

750 test 1-20
600 deca 1-20
20mg Superdrol 1-4 (felt like shit half way though second week)

25mg sin e3d.

500cal surplus putting me at a consistent 500-750gram/w gain.

[Enigma]

Fuck it! I’ll just say it...
Drillit, too much gear. I am the first guy to say and believe people should do whatever they want but my opinion is you probably would see the exact same results at half the amount and no insulin. I might keep the Dbol at 50mg/day but the rest I’d half.

Half the cost, half the stress, all the gains...or whatever it is you’re searching for.

winstrolsvegan, what exactly do you think tamoxifen does for you when using 19-nors? Drillit is using it because he’s using A LOT of Test. Not the Npp or Tren. At least I don’t think so.

[winstrolsvegan]

I've ran Deca & Test with nolva+prami and on another occasion with arimadex+prami, and its just my anecdote but with the prior i had no nipple sensitivity and a lot less bloat whereas with the latter my glands got swollen and i held water to the point BP was an issue also arimidex for some reason changes my mood within hours of dosing for the worst.

bloods would tell a much different story if i had them i know, but as far as SERMS on cycle with 19-nor for me it works.

have you ever tried it? i know there's alot of negative outcomes on paper as far as SERMS on cycle go just curious to hear others anecdotes.

nice symmetry/balance to your physique by the way great job. id be interested to hear some of your protocols/theory's as far as diet & cycling go.

[BearsFan]

Fuck drillit u got deep pockets

Im currently cruising on 125mg test e and 240mg deca weekly and im making progress .

I plan on leaning out .

300mg test e 1-20
400mg mast e 1-20
600mg eq 1-20
Epistane 10mg 1-6 then 16-20 20mg



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[IRISHOAK]

1000 test E
60 dbol (20am) (40 pwo)
200 tren-hex
50 tren ace 4Xwk (I like the spikes)
100 mast e (maintenance)
200ish deca (strength bump, joints)
Aromasin 6mgs eod
Cialis 5mgs eod
Im just taking my current run up a few notches. Dropping mast down a bit (my base layer is now rock solid from running it at 200 for almost 5 weeks)and adding some deca. The tren ace gets mixed into test e pins (each pin will be 250teste/50tren ace 4xwk)
Im doing GREAT on Flex dbol, and aromasin keeping the sides away nicely! Got 2 bags o' dbol left and its been so good to me I cant let it get dusty!

[Drillit]

Fuck it! I’ll just say it...
Drillit, too much gear. I am the first guy to say and believe people should do whatever they want but my opinion is you probably would see the exact same results at half the amount and no insulin. I might keep the Dbol at 50mg/day but the rest I’d half.

Half the cost, half the stress, all the gains...or whatever it is you’re searching for.

winstrolsvegan, what exactly do you think tamoxifen does for you when using 19-nors? Drillit is using it because he’s using A LOT of Test. Not the Npp or Tren. At least I don’t think so.

I hear what your saying. I think my NPP and tren are pretty low. I am running the test so high for the estrogen conversion. I like my E high for bulking. I’ll only run this for 8 weeks at that dose.

Winstrolv: I run nolvadex because of the high test. I don’t run an AI and let my E climb for growth. I use the nolvadex to keep all the circulating estrogen from binding to breast tissue.

[winstrolsvegan]

same, its either nolva or a training bra for me.

[maxmuscle1]

Bulk- 750 mg Test Enanthate/Cyp weekly
500 mg Nandrolone Decanoate weekly
50 mg Dianabol daily
5 IU GH Daily
I do 3- 8 week on, 8 week off cycles in a row.

[Drillit]

1000 test E
60 dbol (20am) (40 pwo)
200 tren-hex
50 tren ace 4Xwk (I like the spikes)
100 mast e (maintenance)
200ish deca (strength bump, joints)
Aromasin 6mgs eod
Cialis 5mgs eod
Im just taking my current run up a few notches. Dropping mast down a bit (my base layer is now rock solid from running it at 200 for almost 5 weeks)and adding some deca. The tren ace gets mixed into test e pins (each pin will be 250teste/50tren ace 4xwk)
Im doing GREAT on Flex dbol, and aromasin keeping the sides away nicely! Got 2 bags o' dbol left and its been so good to me I cant let it get dusty!

Nice! This is the first time I’ve ever used DBOL and I think I’m in love!
I am a big fan of deca and tren together too!

[Drillit]

Bulk- 750 mg Test Enanthate/Cyp weekly
500 mg Nandrolone Decanoate weekly
50 mg Dianabol daily
5 IU GH Daily
I do 3- 8 week on, 8 week off cycles in a row.
I hear that Max.
I’m gonna go just 8 on this. Lift hard and eat hard. Hoping to grow a clip!

[Yellowninja]

Here is my cycle I'm starting on August 18th
Weeks 1-18
Test-e 875mg/wk
EQ 1050mg/wk
Mast-e 700mg/wk
Deca 525mg/wk
Cialis 20mg daily
Nolvadex 20mg daily
Caber .5mg 3xweek
Aromasin 12.5mg eod
I will also be occasionally pinning different pre workouts


Weeks 1-5
Dbol 50mg daily
Anadrol 50mg daily

Weeks 13-18
Sdrol 20mg daily
Tbol 50mg daily

I might also throw in tren-e 500mg/wk for weeks 12-18

I might also so run proviron 50mg daily for weeks 6-12

I'm hoping to gain 30lbs on this cycle and put me up in the 240lb range

[socalmk6gti]

Nice! This is the first time I’ve ever used DBOL and I think I’m in love!
I am a big fan of deca and tren together too!We will see how much you love dbol when your lower back cramps so hard in the middle of a deadlift or a squat that you have to crawl to the floor hahahahaha

Man that pain is unreal to the point you can only just lie there on your back laughing

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[Enigma]

I've ran Deca & Test with nolva+prami and on another occasion with arimadex+prami, and its just my anecdote but with the prior i had no nipple sensitivity and a lot less bloat whereas with the latter my glands got swollen and i held water to the point BP was an issue also arimidex for some reason changes my mood within hours of dosing for the worst.

bloods would tell a much different story if i had them i know, but as far as SERMS on cycle with 19-nor for me it works.

have you ever tried it? i know there's alot of negative outcomes on paper as far as SERMS on cycle go just curious to hear others anecdotes.

nice symmetry/balance to your physique by the way great job. id be interested to hear some of your protocols/theory's as far as diet & cycling go.
Oversimplifying but... 19-nors have a tendency to create prolactin issues for some. Tamoxifen simply blocks or fills estrogen receptors thereby blocking estrogen that has already converted or aromatized. Obviously it would be better to prevent conversion vice blocking what is already been unwontedly converted. Prolactin is mitigated by cabergoline or formerly bromocriptine. I submit that neither AIs, SERMs or any of these drugs used to mitigate unwanted side effects are necessary at conservative yet effective doses. (caveat: unless overly sensitive)
My opinion is that shit is way out of hand with these dosages used today by normal, hobby gym enthusiasts.
AIs didn't exist in the '80s and '90s, people used a fraction of the gear that is used today and there were still some pretty big fuckers around me back then. There was a helluva lot less gyno in these average gym guys too. I was just in Seattle and I never saw so much gyno in such nothing physique dudes. Half the guys I saw had gyno. From weed? Maybe?

As far as my protocols/theories/diet and cycling, I practice what I preach. So when I post here, even when it seems like preaching, remember that I am not a casual, transient dude who just came to the forum. My avatar is from March 1989, My previous avatar was June 2018. Like me or hate me, I KNOW what I am talking about.

​...steps off soap box.....

[maxmuscle1]

I hear that Max.
I’m gonna go just 8 on this. Lift hard and eat hard. Hoping to grow a clip!

Smart Man. It gives you a break, and you keep gaining because it’s only 8 weeks away! I’m always excited each time!!

Max

[Enigma]

I guess since I am bulking atm too I should have laid out my cycle:

1-16 400 EQ
1-16 500 TEST E
4-8 10mg Sdrol on w/o days ***bailed out on this after 10 day. For me, sdrol es no bueno****
6-10 50mg Dbol/day
1-16 200 Deca (1 -per week)
No AIs or any ancillaries unless I need them.

I might add 200mg tren ace and 200mg Mast at week 10 or so just to use up some open vials but probably not.

My "bulk" is eating so much food I am miserable all the time. Miserable from food, not gear.

BTW, I don't get this back pump thing. Dbol was probably the most ubiquitous drug in the 80s and I never once heard someone mention back pump. Seriously.

[BearsFan]

I guess since I am bulking atm too I should have laid out my cycle:

1-16 400 EQ
1-16 500 TEST E
4-8 10mg Sdrol on w/o days ***bailed out on this after 10 day. For me, sdrol es no bueno****
6-10 50mg Dbol/day
1-16 200 Deca (1 -per week)
No AIs or any ancillaries unless I need them.

I might add 200mg tren ace and 200mg Mast at week 10 or so just to use up some open vials but probably not.

My "bulk" is eating so much food I am miserable all the time. Miserable from food, not gear.

BTW, I don't get this back pump thing. Dbol was probably the most ubiquitous drug in the 80s and I never once heard someone mention back pump. Seriously.Screw superdrol , go with m1t

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[Enigma]

Screw superdrol , go with m1t

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I am curious how you use all that gear when much of the carriers are now MCT?

[winstrolsvegan]

Oversimplifying but... 19-nors have a tendency to create prolactin issues for some. Tamoxifen simply blocks or fills estrogen receptors thereby blocking estrogen that has already converted or aromatized. Obviously it would be better to prevent conversion vice blocking what is already been unwontedly converted. Prolactin is mitigated by cabergoline or formerly bromocriptine. I submit that neither AIs, SERMs or any of these drugs used to mitigate unwanted side effects are necessary at conservative yet effective doses. (caveat: unless overly sensitive)
My opinion is that shit is way out of hand with these dosages used today by normal, hobby gym enthusiasts.
AIs didn't exist in the '80s and '90s, people used a fraction of the gear that is used today and there were still some pretty big fuckers around me back then. There was a helluva lot less gyno in these average gym guys too. I was just in Seattle and I never saw so much gyno in such nothing physique dudes. Half the guys I saw had gyno. From weed? Maybe?

As far as my protocols/theories/diet and cycling, I practice what I preach. So when I post here, even when it seems like preaching, remember that I am not a casual, transient dude who just came to the forum. My avatar is from March 1989, My previous avatar was June 2018. Like me or hate me, I KNOW what I am talking about.

​...steps off soap box.....

all i did was state my anecdote (how it worked for me) and give you a compliment, and you write me this?

i alluded to already knowing the MOA of these drugs but you proceed to act like your schooling someone... way to make a tool of yourself. and my guy if you looked at my cycle you would see were on the same page, whats your problem?

[SloppyJ]

Here's what I think I've settled on:

750 Test E 1-18wk
600 Deca 1-18wk
900 EQ 1-18wk
50mg Dbol 4 weeks

Would love to run it just a tad longer around but I'll have a TRT check up at 24 weeks.

[Enigma]

all i did was state my anecdote (how it worked for me) and give you a compliment, and you write me this?

i alluded to already knowing the MOA of these drugs but you proceed to act like your schooling someone... way to make a tool of yourself. and my guy if you looked at my cycle you would see were on the same page, whats your problem?
The forum is for everyone. I make posts to benefit all who peruse this forum. If someone were to not understand any of this, then we, all of us, miss the opportunity to help others gather information and learn. Most will will glean whatever knowledge they seek and forge their own opinions/actions.

Your post looked like tamoxifen controls prolactin created by 19-nors. I simply spelled out things so those seeking knowledge can obtain some. Obviously you don't fit into this category. I quoted your post to preserve continuity. Thinking that I somehow am directly addressing you is somewhat egocentric.
If you feel that I rubbed you the wrong way, well, I am sorry. But if I helped a few guys who didn't understand? Better.

[Drillit]

Here is my cycle I'm starting on August 18th
Weeks 1-18
Test-e 875mg/wk
EQ 1050mg/wk
Mast-e 700mg/wk
Deca 525mg/wk
Cialis 20mg daily
Nolvadex 20mg daily
Caber .5mg 3xweek
Aromasin 12.5mg eod
I will also be occasionally pinning different pre workouts


Weeks 1-5
Dbol 50mg daily
Anadrol 50mg daily

Weeks 13-18
Sdrol 20mg daily
Tbol 50mg daily

I might also throw in tren-e 500mg/wk for weeks 12-18

I might also so run proviron 50mg daily for weeks 6-12

I'm hoping to gain 30lbs on this cycle and put me up in the 240lb range

That’s a biggen right there! I’d drop the aromasin and just use nolvadex. The estrogen will keep your igf up nice if you wanna gain all that. Good luck bro. I’m hoping to grab 8 lbs!

[Drillit]

I guess since I am bulking atm too I should have laid out my cycle:

1-16 400 EQ
1-16 500 TEST E
4-8 10mg Sdrol on w/o days ***bailed out on this after 10 day. For me, sdrol es no bueno****
6-10 50mg Dbol/day
1-16 200 Deca (1 -per week)
No AIs or any ancillaries unless I need them.

I might add 200mg tren ace and 200mg Mast at week 10 or so just to use up some open vials but probably not.

My "bulk" is eating so much food I am miserable all the time. Miserable from food, not gear.

BTW, I don't get this back pump thing. Dbol was probably the most ubiquitous drug in the 80s and I never once heard someone mention back pump. Seriously.

Hate eating! Omg. I actually love the feeling of being overfull! It makes my heart happy!


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[BearsFan]

I am curious how you use all that gear when much of the carriers are now MCT?There's a handful of sponsors that use gso or cotton seed

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[BearsFan]

Hate eating! Omg. I actually love the feeling of being overfull! It makes my heart happy!


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkI never experience being full. I'll eat then 20 minutes later I'm looking for more

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[Yellowninja]

Here's what I think I've settled on:

750 Test E 1-18wk
600 Deca 1-18wk
900 EQ 1-18wk
50mg Dbol 4 weeks

Would love to run it just a tad longer around but I'll have a TRT check up at 24 weeks.

Nice cycle. It's pretty close to what I plan on running

[Yellowninja]

That’s a biggen right there! I’d drop the aromasin and just use nolvadex. The estrogen will keep your igf up nice if you wanna gain all that. Good luck bro. I’m hoping to grab 8 lbs!

Unfortunately I have to take the aromasin because if my estrogen raises too high I break out like no other.

[IRISHOAK]

We will see how much you love dbol when your lower back cramps so hard in the middle of a deadlift or a squat that you have to crawl to the floor hahahahaha

Man that pain is unreal to the point you can only just lie there on your back laughing

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Never got back pumps from dbol. Maybe its just me? Sure you're not thinking of tbol and superdrol?

[IRISHOAK]

Here's what I think I've settled on:

750 Test E 1-18wk
600 Deca 1-18wk
900 EQ 1-18wk
50mg Dbol 4 weeks

Would love to run it just a tad longer around but I'll have a TRT check up at 24 weeks.

Eq at 900 is gonna equal crazy mental sides. Unless you have prior experience to the contrary. Id never run deca higher than 50% of my test either. I also find dbol works better from week 4 ON because the other compounds have already kicked in. I know most use it as a "jump start" but... If youre patient and wait till week 4... Youll get way more out of it.
My suggestion for those compounds would be...
Weeks 1-4
Front load EQ at 750
Test at 1000
Deca at 300
4-16
Eq at 400
Test at 1000
Deca at 200
Dbol at 40-60/day
16-18
Eq at 200
Test at 750
Drop deca
Drop dbol
Run whatever AI you need
The will get the long ester stuff out of your system in time. EQ is a long ride man, if you do get the paranoia and depression, at 900, its gonna crush you and youll remain crushed until your levels drop (weeks). Deca at 600 isnt good for the libido... by week 8 you may have issues at that dose. Just my 2 cents.

[chadmack282]

Here is my cycle I'm starting on August 18th
Weeks 1-18
Test-e 875mg/wk
EQ 1050mg/wk
Mast-e 700mg/wk
Deca 525mg/wk
Cialis 20mg daily
Nolvadex 20mg daily
Caber .5mg 3xweek
Aromasin 12.5mg eod
I will also be occasionally pinning different pre workouts


Weeks 1-5
Dbol 50mg daily
Anadrol 50mg daily

Weeks 13-18
Sdrol 20mg daily
Tbol 50mg daily

I might also throw in tren-e 500mg/wk for weeks 12-18

I might also so run proviron 50mg daily for weeks 6-12

I'm hoping to gain 30lbs on this cycle and put me up in the 240lb range

Definitely run the proviron ninja just 25mg does great for free test & libido!!

[chadmack282]

Eq at 900 is gonna equal crazy mental sides. Unless you have prior experience to the contrary. Id never run deca higher than 50% of my test either. I also find dbol works better from week 4 ON because the other compounds have already kicked in. I know most use it as a "jump start" but... If youre patient and wait till week 4... Youll get way more out of it.
My suggestion for those compounds would be...
Weeks 1-4
Front load EQ at 750
Test at 1000
Deca at 300
4-16
Eq at 400
Test at 1000
Deca at 200
Dbol at 40-60/day
16-18
Eq at 200
Test at 750
Drop deca
Drop dbol
Run whatever AI you need
The will get the long ester stuff out of your system in time. EQ is a long ride man, if you do get the paranoia and depression, at 900, its gonna crush you and youll remain crushed until your levels drop (weeks). Deca at 600 isnt good for the libido... by week 8 you may have issues at that dose. Just my 2 cents.

I run deca & test equal absolutely no issues with libido,
EQ doesn't give me depression at high doses but not having sex everyday does give me depression!!! ;-)

[Rizkybuziness]

Starting Sept 1st for 20 weeks:
EQ 800mg
Test-E 600mg
NPP 400mg
Anadrol 25/ Dbol 25 combo bid
Nolvadex as needed
Aromasin as needed
Caber on hand.

[Mattymoo]

Hi Mate
I've tried Tren A and E but not Hex
Is Hex good ?
Does the Cialis keep your Bp low on that amount of gear or are you using something extra?
Sorry for all the questions
Always enjoy your posts

[Mattymoo]

Dbol 30mg ed 6 weeks
Sust 500mg
Tren E 200mg
First time using Sust and not feeling it
Usually i stick to Test E
Maybe i need to pin Sust 3 times a week as the esters are all different??

[Mattymoo]

Thanks for your vet advice and knowledge
Hard to get good/quality advice these days
Bop has always been an amazing platform for all aspects of BB and im hoping one day that Drs especially here in Australia will grow a fucking brain and treat us with respect and not look at us like we are junkies.
Respect bro
Cheers

[socalmk6gti]

Never got back pumps from dbol. Maybe its just me? Sure you're not thinking of tbol and superdrol?Nope, I've ran dbol three times now from three different sponsors. Always get some mean back pumps. Worst was my first go round using Balkan Dbol, I literally couldn't stand straight up between sets lol. Made me never want to use it again, but next time wasn't as severe.

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[Wshadrick]

DBol 50mg week 1-3
Tren E 400mg week 1-10
Test E 750mg week 1-15

Currently on week 12, started at 205lb sitting at 222lb this morning, did get a little lazy on this cycle with vacation, lake and river this summer

[Enigma]

Hi Mate
I've tried Tren A and E but not Hex
Is Hex good ?
Does the Cialis keep your Bp low on that amount of gear or are you using something extra?
Sorry for all the questions
Always enjoy your posts
Hex raws are cost prohibitive for me in terms of resale. I want to get some for myself to see how it compares to Parabolan.
In the ‘80s, guys used 2, maybe 3 ampules of Parabolan per week, max. You could tell who was using it because they looked pink/flushed all the time. Those ampules were only 76mg, iirc.

Guys here swear by it because of less sides.

[IRISHOAK]

Hi Mate
I've tried Tren A and E but not Hex
Is Hex good ?
Does the Cialis keep your Bp low on that amount of gear or are you using something extra?
Sorry for all the questions
Always enjoy your posts

Hex is great. Just need to be patient. Other than getting a little warmer than normal, no sides for me at 200wk but really seeing recomposition. Cialis at low constant dose increases blood flow which has many benefits.

[Restless]

1000 test enth
600 test prop
900 deca
900 eq
150-200 Anadrol

[animal23]

Food

[Sqwuidd]

Tren hex 300 week
Cyp/enan 1200 week
Dbol 50 a day
5 ius GH
Ancillaries nolva adex abd Caber on hand

Starting August 1


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[Enigma]

1000 test enth
600 test prop
900 deca
900 eq
150-200 Anadrol
You waited 6 months to become a troll?

I really hate calling people out but I keep stumbling across your irresponsible contributions.
I hope the mods are noticing.

[Drillit]

Unfortunately I have to take the aromasin because if my estrogen raises too high I break out like no other.
That sucks. I used to have that problem and found If I pin ED I have less of a problem with acne. Unless coming off tren. When I stop that it gets me.

[Drillit]

I run deca & test equal absolutely no issues with libido,
EQ doesn't give me depression at high doses but not having sex everyday does give me depression!!! ;-)

Same. I’ve run my deca at 900 and test at 5 and felt great. Just held a lot of water.

[Njord]

Test C-500
EQ - 600
Deca -200
16-20 weeks
Tbol - 40mg ED
Adex - as needed
Caber - as needed
Might toss in some tren towards the end
Definitely need some Mk677


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[maxmuscle1]

Test C-500
EQ - 600
Deca -200
16-20 weeks
Tbol - 40mg ED
Adex - as needed
Caber - as needed
Might toss in some tren towards the end
Definitely need some Mk677


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Good long cycle that is effective. I like it.

Max

[chadmack282]

Same. I’ve run my deca at 900 and test at 5 and felt great. Just held a lot of water.

Try 450deca & 450npp it should eliminate all most all the water, at least it does for me.
Give it a shot & it should definitely help with high BP also.

[aderu]

Oversimplifying but... 19-nors have a tendency to create prolactin issues for some. Tamoxifen simply blocks or fills estrogen receptors thereby blocking estrogen that has already converted or aromatized. Obviously it would be better to prevent conversion vice blocking what is already been unwontedly converted. Prolactin is mitigated by cabergoline or formerly bromocriptine. I submit that neither AIs, SERMs or any of these drugs used to mitigate unwanted side effects are necessary at conservative yet effective doses. (caveat: unless overly sensitive)
My opinion is that shit is way out of hand with these dosages used today by normal, hobby gym enthusiasts.
AIs didn't exist in the '80s and '90s, people used a fraction of the gear that is used today and there were still some pretty big fuckers around me back then. There was a helluva lot less gyno in these average gym guys too. I was just in Seattle and I never saw so much gyno in such nothing physique dudes. Half the guys I saw had gyno. From weed? Maybe?

As far as my protocols/theories/diet and cycling, I practice what I preach. So when I post here, even when it seems like preaching, remember that I am not a casual, transient dude who just came to the forum. My avatar is from March 1989, My previous avatar was June 2018. Like me or hate me, I KNOW what I am talking about.

​...steps off soap box.....What would you recommend for a bulk cycle then if I may ask.

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[Enigma]

I listed the one I am currently on. Njord’s is great except I would use a different oral, keeping it simple with Dbol or anadrol. Maxmuscle1 has laid out several sensible cycles, many times on the forum.

[Njord]

I listed the one I am currently on. Njord’s is great except I would use a different oral, keeping it simple with Dbol or anadrol. Maxmuscle1 has laid out several sensible cycles, many times on the forum.

I only opt to use tbol because of aromatizing with certain compounds. I don’t so much mind the wetter aspect of it, I’ll stay fairly tight and lean. But I don’t like to chance any kind of gyno.
As far as adrol - I’ve personally never used it.
So if anyone has any insight to peak my interest, please do lol


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[Enigma]

I’ve never used Tbol. Most old school guys scoff at it. Dbol is tolerable and if one thinks that they are converting at an uncontrollable rate, something mellow like exemestane should control it. You might ry superdrol. Guys seem to love it for its effectiveness. My body doesn’t like it. Food doesn’t clear stomach, lethargy and headaches even at lower doses.

[BearsFan]

I’ve never used Tbol. Most old school guys scoff at it. Dbol is tolerable and if one thinks that they are converting at an uncontrollable rate, something mellow like exemestane should control it. You might ry superdrol. Guys seem to love it for its effectiveness. My body doesn’t like it. Food doesn’t clear stomach, lethargy and headaches even at lower doses.A dude on here sent me some gear made with mct oil . I had a tight throat and some slight breathing issues but not full on anaphylactic shock. I took 60mcg clen and 3 benadryl hit my inhaler a few times i lived . I definitely wont order mct gear but atleast i know what it does to me . It was half a ML of mast npp and test prop

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[Enigma]

A dude on here sent me some gear made with mct oil . I had a tight throat and some slight breathing issues but not full on anaphylactic shock. I took 60mcg clen and 3 benadryl hit my inhaler a few times i lived . I definitely wont order mct gear but atleast i know what it does to me . It was half a ML of mast npp and test prop

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I have no idea why you take steroids. I get that you no longer have the other forum to exercise your internet persona but you really should keep you comments in the general and anything goes forums. Please. I ask you again to please tread lightly here. With the exception of a few blow outs here and there, this website/forum is very useful and we just don’t need bullshit, drama and generally off-the-cuff useless quips.

I am not one to pick on or bully people but I wish you would take a good look at yourself and your mindset. You have many issues that seem to prevent you from living a full life. Perhaps that’s why all the internet histrionics?

Please, please govern yourself on this forum...so you can continue to participate.

[chadmack282]

Here's what I think I've settled on:

750 Test E 1-18wk
600 Deca 1-18wk
900 EQ 1-18wk
50mg Dbol 4 weeks

Would love to run it just a tad longer around but I'll have a TRT check up at 24 weeks.

A low dose of sdrol 10-20mg ed or preworkout the last 3weeks would dry u out nice to finish off cycle !!

[winstrolsvegan]

I have no idea why you take steroids. I get that you no longer have the other forum to exercise your internet persona but you really should keep you comments in the general and anything goes forums. Please. I ask you again to please tread lightly here. With the exception of a few blow outs here and there, this website/forum is very useful and we just don’t need bullshit, drama and generally off-the-cuff useless quips.

I am not one to pick on or bully people but I wish you would take a good look at yourself and your mindset. You have many issues that seem to prevent you from living a full life. Perhaps that’s why all the internet histrionics?

Please, please govern yourself on this forum...so you can continue to participate.

you should take your own advice, your full of yourself.

[animal23]

I would save the orals for the end. Usually gains aren't as good. This will help break plateaus and increase calories when needed

[Plate Smacker]

I blast and cruise.
TRT for life.
Experienced users only.
I don't recommend Deca if you cycle, and if you must, you need to follow a modified PCT protocol, not a standard one.
All homebrew and raws: I have threads in hombrew section showing recipes and process.

Favorite: allows lower dosages ("lower" relative to my past blasts)
UNREAL PUMPS BLAST
16 weeks
Test E: 720wk
Deca: 600wk
Tren E: 400wk
Mk 677: 12.5mg before bed
10mg Nolva EOD
20mg Cialis EOD

I no longer use an AI. I block with Nolva.
My first Test Tren Deca cycle needed prami, now, I no longer have issues or need it, but still have on hand.
My requirements and rate of conversion have changed over time. I started at 20% BF, and now around 12-14%. Also big change in body composition.

If not running Tren
ALL OUT BULK BLAST
Wks 1-8
Test E 720mg/wk
Deca 600mg/wk
10mg Nolva EOD

Wks 9-14
Test E 900mg/wk
Deca 720mg/wk
10mg Nolva EOD

Wks 15-20
Switch to more frequent pinning schedule:
Test E 300mg EOD (1050mg Average)
Deca 300mg Mon. Wed. morning, and Fri. night. (900mg)
20mg Nolva EOD

Last 4 weeks of any blast: Anadrol 50mg ED with change in diet, Anadrol keeps me feeling strong, full, pumped when cutting.

I can do shorter blast above by switching to frequent pinning wks 10-16, lower dosage.

IMPORTANT: Many may need prami or caber, I don't.
I only use Nolva as a measure to block gyno due to slightly elevated estrogen.

For me, increasing dosage along blast is a must if going to 16-20wks.
Bloodwork and donations a must.
Be safe...

[SloppyJ]

Eq at 900 is gonna equal crazy mental sides. Unless you have prior experience to the contrary. Id never run deca higher than 50% of my test either. I also find dbol works better from week 4 ON because the other compounds have already kicked in. I know most use it as a "jump start" but... If youre patient and wait till week 4... Youll get way more out of it.
My suggestion for those compounds would be...
Weeks 1-4
Front load EQ at 750
Test at 1000
Deca at 300
4-16
Eq at 400
Test at 1000
Deca at 200
Dbol at 40-60/day
16-18
Eq at 200
Test at 750
Drop deca
Drop dbol
Run whatever AI you need
The will get the long ester stuff out of your system in time. EQ is a long ride man, if you do get the paranoia and depression, at 900, its gonna crush you and youll remain crushed until your levels drop (weeks). Deca at 600 isnt good for the libido... by week 8 you may have issues at that dose. Just my 2 cents.


Thank you for the input. That's what this thread is all about. I have ran EQ at a gram before and never had any sides other than eating everything in my sight.

I've only ran NPP before so this will be my first run with deca. I would like to run it at 400mg/wk but I wasn't sure if that was enough. Thoughts?

I love kicking off with dbol but I see where you're coming from on it. I've always kicked off with it so I could start gaining ASAP and so that the aromatization wasn't too crazy like when you're saturated with test. I might wait and use it later in the cycle just to try it out.

[MrBash]

So this will be my winter. 16-20 weeks starting mid Oct or maybe first week of Nov. Gonna pack some nice quality mass. I will most likely get a little flabby cause I’m order to make it go the way I plan I will definetly be supplementing with a lot of pasta and pop tarts. If I wanna gain I gotta eat.. plus the higher mg will fire my metabolism up so it will burn more calories than normal. I will also be using a lot of test p. I am on trt and I will work it that I get my bloods done at the end of my cycle so I don’t want that extra test floating around to long. I learned my lesson last winter. and I will need to get bloods at some point ofterwards.
WEEKLY
5- 700mg of test p
300mg of test E
100mg a day TNE pre worlout
700mg a week of NPP
2-300mg deca
50mg of dbol a day. First 5 weeks then aminmay hit it again @10-12 weeks
4 iu gh
lots of food lots of carbs..

[mightymouse84]

300-350 Test C
300-350 NPP
600-800 Primo
50 mg proviron daily

Goal is to have lean bulk/recomp for the winter.