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maxmuscle1
07-27-2019, 03:31 AM
*Symptoms are due to both the excess amount of growth hormone produced and by the mass itself (visual field defect, headache, etc). People with acromegaly have a gradual increase in the size of their hands and feet. ... Sometimes there is numbness, 'pins and needles' and pain in the hands, particularly around the thumb.

*Generally muscle/bone/nerve pain from growth hormone will diminish over time once stopped. Sometimes growth hormone will trigger carpal tunned syndrome which can linger for a longer period of time (months)after stopping growth hormone.

*Because growth hormone has the ability to increase muscle and tissue mass, it frequently causes compression of the nerves. The most common nerve compression syndrome induced by growth hormone is the carpal tunnel syndrome. The major nerve in the hand (median nerve) which travels down the arm is squeezed between the fibrous bands and the muscles in the hand. This painful condition causes tingling, numbness and weakness of the fingers and the hand.

Max

Musclemechanic76
07-27-2019, 03:55 AM
*Symptoms are due to both the excess amount of growth hormone produced and by the mass itself (visual field defect, headache, etc). People with acromegaly have a gradual increase in the size of their hands and feet. ... Sometimes there is numbness, 'pins and needles' and pain in the hands, particularly around the thumb.

*Generally muscle/bone/nerve pain from growth hormone will diminish over time once stopped. Sometimes growth hormone will trigger carpal tunned syndrome which can linger for a longer period of time (months)after stopping growth hormone.

*Because growth hormone has the ability to increase muscle and tissue mass, it frequently causes compression of the nerves. The most common nerve compression syndrome induced by growth hormone is the carpal tunnel syndrome. The major nerve in the hand (median nerve) which travels down the arm is squeezed between the fibrous bands and the muscles in the hand. This painful condition causes tingling, numbness and weakness of the fingers and the hand.

MaxI wait till can't sleep swollen and if not better I start t4 at 50mcg then 75mcg then back off to 50mcg
All go away fast

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Musclemechanic76
07-27-2019, 03:57 AM
It's thyroid suppression, t3 works by 2nd day all gone
T4 better with hgh and safer.
Again it's thyroud suppression studies proved this in kids ..
Trust me

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9TMARE
07-27-2019, 03:58 AM
Thank you Max! Even at a low dose of 2.5-3iu I have it. Not bad but it’s there. Wanting to ramp up correctly but also want this to subside a bit before I take it up a notch.

maxmuscle1
07-27-2019, 03:59 AM
It's thyroid suppression, t3 works by 2nd day all gone
T4 better with hgh and safer.
Again it's thyroud suppression studies proved this in kids ..
Trust me

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Thank You MM!

Max

maxmuscle1
07-27-2019, 03:59 AM
Thank you Max! Even at a low dose of 2.5-3iu I have it. Not bad but it’s there. Wanting to ramp up correctly but also want this to subside a bit before I take it up a notch.

Yeah, I notice it daily and especially on good stuff!

Max

9TMARE
07-27-2019, 03:59 AM
It's thyroid suppression, t3 works by 2nd day all gone
T4 better with hgh and safer.
Again it's thyroud suppression studies proved this in kids ..
Trust me

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Good to know! I have some T4 to run on my blast. 100mcg per day sound correct?

Musclemechanic76
07-27-2019, 04:06 AM
U wanna see my photos before I use thyroid...
One at 4am other 2 hours later
That is hgh thyroid suppression edema
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190727/51ba8eec9f5d9ab2ddd957c7eabef5cd.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190727/2c9d0b08c541ca1a8c71f4174eef6dac.jpg

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maxmuscle1
07-27-2019, 04:09 AM
U wanna see my photos before I use thyroid...
One at 4am other 2 hours later
That is hgh thyroid suppression edema
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190727/51ba8eec9f5d9ab2ddd957c7eabef5cd.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190727/2c9d0b08c541ca1a8c71f4174eef6dac.jpg

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That’s a crazy difference {before and after}. Puts it in perspective big time!

Max

Musclemechanic76
07-27-2019, 04:09 AM
Good to know! I have some T4 to run on my blast. 100mcg per day sound correct?Use less if possible
Start at 5omcg of Pharma less if not
Work to 75mcg then 100mcg
Drop as needed to 50 if possible
Hgh convets t4 to t3 at high rate and needs, enough to fight lethergy and full benifits studies out there

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Musclemechanic76
07-27-2019, 04:10 AM
T4 needed not t3.. need ionization from t4

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Musclemechanic76
07-27-2019, 04:10 AM
Trust me fellas

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9TMARE
07-27-2019, 04:16 AM
Holy fucking shit that is such a wild difference! Perfect I will start at 50 for sure work up and then back down if needed. Appreciate that and the before and after pic!

JustinMoose
07-27-2019, 10:30 AM
Crazy difference. I’ve been having it bad enough to where I’m waking up 15-20 times a night. Been wrapping my wrists but I’ll have to try some t4

teejey
07-27-2019, 10:33 AM
U wanna see my photos before I use thyroid...
One at 4am other 2 hours later
That is hgh thyroid suppression edema
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190727/51ba8eec9f5d9ab2ddd957c7eabef5cd.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190727/2c9d0b08c541ca1a8c71f4174eef6dac.jpg

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Musclemechanic76
07-27-2019, 02:22 PM
How many iu makes you swell that much?

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But with 3.3iu good stuff lethergy will build over months until I up my t4 stores. If tren is added TBG is increase and less free t4 availability to convert but still t4 works safer with hgh.

HEART RATE MUST BE MONITERED EVEN WITH T4. START SLOW STOP IF HEART RATE DOESNT GET NORMAL.
5-10 BEATS MORE PER MIN IN DAY NO BIG DEAL..

IRON_PROPHET
07-28-2019, 02:01 PM
*Symptoms are due to both the excess amount of growth hormone produced and by the mass itself (visual field defect, headache, etc). People with acromegaly have a gradual increase in the size of their hands and feet. ... Sometimes there is numbness, 'pins and needles' and pain in the hands, particularly around the thumb.

*Generally muscle/bone/nerve pain from growth hormone will diminish over time once stopped. Sometimes growth hormone will trigger carpal tunned syndrome which can linger for a longer period of time (months)after stopping growth hormone.

*Because growth hormone has the ability to increase muscle and tissue mass, it frequently causes compression of the nerves. The most common nerve compression syndrome induced by growth hormone is the carpal tunnel syndrome. The major nerve in the hand (median nerve) which travels down the arm is squeezed between the fibrous bands and the muscles in the hand. This painful condition causes tingling, numbness and weakness of the fingers and the hand.

MaxThanks max!!!

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teejey
08-03-2019, 09:35 AM
I'm noticing I'm holding a little water around my mid section and ankles mostly in the afternoon not dramatic but noticeable. Should I continue at 2iu or lower untill I pull bloods. Waiting for the test im running to reach peak serum levels. I wanna see what my thyroid is doing before I ad t4. Thanks

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maxmuscle1
08-03-2019, 10:53 AM
I'm noticing I'm holding a little water around my mid section and ankles mostly in the afternoon not dramatic but noticeable. Should I continue at 2iu or lower untill I pull bloods. Waiting for the test im running to reach peak serum levels. I wanna see what my thyroid is doing before I ad t4. Thanks

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I never stop. That’s me though. 2ius is pretty low, I would adjust water and diet a bit and continue.

Max

chadmack282
08-03-2019, 09:41 PM
I'm noticing I'm holding a little water around my mid section and ankles mostly in the afternoon not dramatic but noticeable. Should I continue at 2iu or lower untill I pull bloods. Waiting for the test im running to reach peak serum levels. I wanna see what my thyroid is doing before I ad t4. Thanks

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Add dandelion root & lower your sodium

Wshadrick
08-03-2019, 09:53 PM
Tren always makes my arms and hands go numb and start tingling

Treebow
08-03-2019, 11:37 PM
So will t3 work if you don’t have t4?


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Musclemechanic76
08-04-2019, 03:33 AM
So will t3 work if you don’t have t4?


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Musclemechanic76
08-04-2019, 03:34 AM
I never stop. That’s me though. 2ius is pretty low, I would adjust water and diet a bit and continue.

MaxConcure.


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Musclemechanic76
08-04-2019, 03:36 AM
Increases in prolactin increases water retention and Lower thyroid hypo does as well and increases prolactin.

I gotta use Caber low .25mg on hgh and or L-Dopa supplement with b6

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Jaxino
08-04-2019, 06:13 AM
The real deal isn't thyroid meds.

To resolve this issue of numb hands just take Curcumine pills every day. What you will have is an inflammation in the nerves.

FT4 suppression is something that happens later on HGH, even on 2iu pharma grade Ed.

If you decide to use T3, that will turn off your thyroid,start with 37,5mcg T3 that will put you at maximum thyroid levels up to 50mcg T3. At 75mcg you have to be a mass monster or you will be flat as a pancake, tired and weak.
At 100mcg T3 You will start eating and going to bathroom in 1h. Ofc you MUST be on pharma grade T3 no some bullshit ugl. I.e. Tiromel
If you are also on HGH and INSULIN, well the game changes... But at this point you will be a competitor at national level if not even more.

If you decide to use T4, which won't inhibit your thyroid. Start from 50mcg up to 100mcg T4 ed.

T3 at 37,5-50mcg won't keep you leaner, it will just make your body use better proteins, so add more protein to your diet.(1,5g+ prot/lbs)

But remember that it's mainly nerve inflammation.