5 weeks in new cycle

[pump1344]

been doing juice for over 15 yrs, time on with equal time off, this is my current cycle plan on a 20 week cycle
stats:
5'7" 193lbs bf 11%

about 51/2 weeks into my cycle: 600mgs Test E 2 x a week 200mgs Deca 3 x a week 275mgs EQ 3 a week 125 mgs masteron 3 x a week .05mgs arimedex 2 x a week just finished a blast protocal with 10ius HGH 2 weeks ago, getting great gains with no sides had to lower the deca to 600mgs from 750mgs and up the EQ to 750mgs from 600mgs I was getting to much bulk from the deca , I know its the deca because I useually run high doses of test due to long time useage and also being on pain meds suboxon which is know to decrease test levels, what would be a better choice of compounds to add either primo or oral winstrol. This is one of my bigger cycles than I useually run but every once in a while I do like to run a high dose cycle keeping the protien up and eating clean or just leave it alone and enjoy the ride the EQ is just starting to kick in I can feel the crazy hunger and nice hard pumps with veins like ropes
Respect,
Pump1344

[Dath]

Never ran primo myself ...yet ...perhaps this summer though. Normally I'd say primo over winny any day...but you are pushing a fair amount of oil already and the compounds your currently running I'm not sure you'd benefit nearly as much from the primo as you would the winny. Just my .02 cents, very curious what others have to say about this.....

[bionic redneck]

id say run primo at 600mg/wk... but there again primo is pricey..

[pump1344]

do you really keep most of the gains with either of these compounds? also primo is not as harsh on your system
Respect,
Pump,
1344

[Jacked]

nice stack bro

[Dath]

do you really keep most of the gains with either of these compounds? also primo is not as harsh on your system
Respect,
Pump,
1344

primo is quite mild on the system- arguably the mildest. Guys who run it report back solid leans muscle gains/ definition that are typically kept.
winny on the other hand adds a more harden and vascular look, with results much MORE noticeable in the 10% or single digit BF% range.

i could argue either way for adding either compound brother :)
primo IS the better choice if your looking to add lean gains, hardening/cutting up winny IMO

[ShortnWide]

Run primo only if your bf is already low. Also the gain or look achieved with primo or most any compound will eventually subside when discontinued.

I would close the last 5-6 weeks of your stack with Winn. It will help solidifie your gains from deca. I accualy am just about to start this same cycle.
Im running 2 test, deca, EQ, Dbol starter, win finisher and HGH 24-7. This stack has been my number one best cycle to grow from. Everyones different and have their own personal fav. This is mine;)


I.E. IDK what doctor gave you Suboxon for pain but that shits for junkies and you need to get away from it. Try something a lot liter on the body bro. A friend of mine got into that shit years back and the whole time he was on it his growth was only a portion of what he normally gained. Now he is off it totally (after just dealing with side effects for a little bit) and now he's bigger than my ass.


Best of luck man, SnW.

[pump1344]

"I.E. IDK what doctor gave you Suboxon for pain but that shits for junkies and you need to get away from it. Try something a lot liter on the body bro. A friend of mine got into that shit years back and the whole time he was on it his growth was only a portion of what he normally gained. Now he is off it totally (after just dealing with side effects for a little bit) and now he's bigger than my ass."
I agree with you 100% how he gave me that was because after having a total knee replacementhe wanted to give me oxcycotin ,but after reading so much about people robbing people to get them ,so I said no thanks so then he gives me methadose so after about a month of being on that poison I read that its given to heroin addicts so I said no more of those and he says I cant just stop taking it I said watch me then he comes up with suboxin and says its a good drug that can not be abused bullshit I have read so much about that drug and how its 20x stronger than morephine so now I am coming off of that junk and the deca works so much better that my joints feel like rubber, Thank god I dont like the way the pain meds make me feel or I would be in real trouble, the drs, in mass all it seem they want to do is give you a rx and tell just take it easy, but try and get TRT out of them and they make you jump throught keyholes
Respect,
Pump1344

[BIGBOSS]

primo is quite mild on the system- arguably the mildest. Guys who run it report back solid leans muscle gains/ definition that are typically kept.
winny on the other hand adds a more harden and vascular look, with results much MORE noticeable in the 10% or single digit BF% range.

i could argue either way for adding either compound brother :)
primo IS the better choice if your looking to add lean gains, hardening/cutting up winny IMO

Good info Dath! Thanks!

[Dath]

"I.E. IDK what doctor gave you Suboxon for pain but that shits for junkies and you need to get away from it. Try something a lot liter on the body bro. A friend of mine got into that shit years back and the whole time he was on it his growth was only a portion of what he normally gained. Now he is off it totally (after just dealing with side effects for a little bit) and now he's bigger than my ass."
I agree with you 100% how he gave me that was because after having a total knee replacementhe wanted to give me oxcycotin ,but after reading so much about people robbing people to get them ,so I said no thanks so then he gives me methadose so after about a month of being on that poison I read that its given to heroin addicts so I said no more of those and he says I cant just stop taking it I said watch me then he comes up with suboxin and says its a good drug that can not be abused bullshit I have read so much about that drug and how its 20x stronger than morephine so now I am coming off of that junk and the deca works so much better that my joints feel like rubber, Thank god I dont like the way the pain meds make me feel or I would be in real trouble, the drs, in mass all it seem they want to do is give you a rx and tell just take it easy, but try and get TRT out of them and they make you jump throught keyholes
Respect,
Pump1344

Damn bro, what misleading Dr. I don't know much about the pain meds you mentioned but glad to hear there not something you "like"
i despise the majority of Dr's, seems all they wanna do is give you a script for something so they can meet there quotes and receive kickbacks from the manufacturing companies.

[ShortnWide]

[QUOTE= the drs, in mass all it seem they want to do is give you a rx and tell just take it easy, but try and get TRT out of them and they make you jump throught keyholes
Respect,
Pump1344[/QUOTE]

Def agree on that one bro. The drug reps push their companies new poison on the doctors and inturn they push it on to us.........straight BS.

[toppjimie]

KICKN CYCLE BRO! but nothing as far as PCT? What's ya planning for post cycle?A 20 weeker is Heavy Duty!Got to luv it...!

[PAiN]

i despise the majority of Dr's, seems all they wanna do is give you a script for something so they can meet there quotes and receive kickbacks from the manufacturing companies.

Amen to that...

[pump1344]

have all my pct on hand arimedex, is all I am running at this point .05mgs 2 x a week no problems with gyno. but on hand I do have clomid, hcg and nolva also will add proviron next week, you are rightabout pct I never start a cycle with out having it on hand good look
respect

[Greenegorilla2]

That's a beast! Why not just finish what Ur running, you will see the gains you want. That's a lot of oil!