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lincolnbella1
03-19-2020, 03:45 PM
Well I started 400mg per week of IA deca 2 months ago in conjunction with my Dr prescribed 140 mg per week TRT and my blood work shows my Test is way high. Test levels are always 800-900 on TRT, now greater than 1500 with 560 free! Estrogen way high at 177. Clearly this isn’t deca. Anyone else having issues with their deca?


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samgraves82
03-19-2020, 03:53 PM
Well I started 400mg per week of IA deca 2 months ago in conjunction with my Dr prescribed 140 mg per week TRT and my blood work shows my Test is way high. Test levels are always 800-900 on TRT, now greater than 1500 with 560 free! Estrogen way high at 177. Clearly this isn’t deca. Anyone else having issues with their deca?


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkWhat the hell did you think ur test would be? How much ai u take? None I bet

lincolnbella1
03-19-2020, 03:56 PM
Why would I need an AI? The reason the estrogen is high is because the test is high which means the deca isn’t deca, it’s test. My test levels shouldn’t change on deca if it’s real deca


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samgraves82
03-19-2020, 04:25 PM
Why would I need an AI? The reason the estrogen is high is because the test is high which means the deca isn’t deca, it’s test. My test levels shouldn’t change on deca if it’s real deca


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkYou said trt so assumed u were on test too. But deca will raise test levels too fyi. E2 shouldnt be that high ibdont think tho. It does convert a little tho. Ur playing with fire imo anyway

SVRACER295
03-19-2020, 04:28 PM
I'm running about 375 wk deca and 200mg wk test. All checking out here . Test 1100 esriodiol 36 with .25 mg dex qod. Prolactin a ok with p5p
I have noticed tho I am way lean and not much of any strength gain but oddly putting on lean muscle slowly. I thought I would be more of a bulking bloat type of gain. My diet is on point tho.
Super tired and some night sweats that is a bit concerning

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Pcushion
03-19-2020, 05:26 PM
You said trt so assumed u were on test too. But deca will raise test levels too fyi. E2 shouldnt be that high ibdont think tho. It does convert a little tho. Ur playing with fire imo anyway

Deca does not raise your test levels man. Only testosterone can raise your test levels.

Pcushion
03-19-2020, 05:35 PM
Well I started 400mg per week of IA deca 2 months ago in conjunction with my Dr prescribed 140 mg per week TRT and my blood work shows my Test is way high. Test levels are always 800-900 on TRT, now greater than 1500 with 560 free! Estrogen way high at 177. Clearly this isn’t deca. Anyone else having issues with their deca?


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Thats sucks about your deca brother. Sounds like you need a better source.

Mattymoo
03-19-2020, 08:56 PM
I thought Deca would convert to Estrogen/raise prolactin and not Test ? Thats why ppl get Deca dick

samgraves82
03-19-2020, 09:32 PM
Deca does not raise your test levels man. Only testosterone can raise your test levels.But does show up on test as test. Its 19-NOR I know its not test
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lincolnbella1
03-20-2020, 03:20 AM
You said trt so assumed u were on test too. But deca will raise test levels too fyi. E2 shouldnt be that high ibdont think tho. It does convert a little tho. Ur playing with fire imo anyway

The only steroid that raises Test levels is test. I get that deca May raise my E2 levels slightly and I’m perfectly. ok with that. Elevated E2 is good for growth and neuro/cardio protection. My prolactin is still well within normal range


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samgraves82
03-20-2020, 03:27 AM
The only steroid that raises Test levels is test. I get that deca May raise my E2 levels slightly and I’m perfectly. ok with that. Elevated E2 is good for growth and neuro/cardio protection. My prolactin is still well within normal range


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkI understand that!! Ur not paying attn.!! On a regular assay blood test, deca will show up as test!! Its not actually turning to test its 19-NOR. Just like adderal will show up as meth untill u gmass it.

Aussiepharmababy
03-20-2020, 06:19 AM
Stranded bloods are shit at best use to be used as guild lines proper bloods with mass spectrometry and so on like my endo does the difference is night and day in Australia it's free for me to get this don't don't know where you are but look in to it even most real doctors will tell you normal blood draw and test are just for indicators

Gizmo856
03-20-2020, 06:49 AM
I’ve always thought deca will raise test in a standard blood test.[emoji2369] My doctor lost his shit when I added deca to my TRT. My test levels were high.

Aussiepharmababy
03-20-2020, 11:49 AM
I’ve always thought deca will raise test in a standard blood test.[emoji2369] My doctor lost his shit when I added deca to my TRT. My test levels were high.

That's where mass spectrometry comes in brakes every thing down. More plates more dates has a you tube video where his "normal bloods" vs mass spectrometry bloods there was a 1400 difference in test alone and about 165 in his live ensimes and so much more he shows the difference between the two and how much more information is on the mass so don't be to freaked

samgraves82
03-20-2020, 01:31 PM
That's where mass spectrometry comes in brakes every thing down. More plates more dates has a you tube video where his "normal bloods" vs mass spectrometry bloods there was a 1400 difference in test alone and about 165 in his live ensimes and so much more he shows the difference between the two and how much more information is on the mass so don't be to freakedThat's where that quote above came from. Finally, thanks for helping me out here guys

Aussiepharmababy
03-20-2020, 01:35 PM
That's where that quote above came from. Finally, thanks for helping me out here guys


Yeah brother so many people think std bloods are the be and end all but have know Idea the amount of tests that are way off because they just have sloppy parameters

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samgraves82
03-20-2020, 01:42 PM
Yeah brother so many people think std bloods are the be and end all but have know Idea the amount of tests that are way off because they just have sloppy parameters

I got you backWhat bothers me most is not the op not understanding what I'm trying to say but that's a sponsor agreeing with him. Ill leave that alone tho cause maybe he just wasn't understanding what ibwas trying to say either

robthomas
03-20-2020, 09:16 PM
Deca will raise free test levels a bit but that’s about it


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samgraves82
03-20-2020, 09:36 PM
I am curious about the estro tho

Pcushion
03-21-2020, 01:11 AM
But does show up on test as test. Its 19-NOR I know its not test
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LOL man have to specific. I use the term false readings. Yes nandrolone will do this for testosterone, trenbolone will does this for E2 as well.

samgraves82
03-21-2020, 02:08 AM
LOL man have to specific. I use the term false readings. Yes nandrolone will do this for testosterone, trenbolone will does this for E2 as well.Fair nuff

Sting
03-25-2020, 03:42 AM
Deca does not raise your test levels man. Only testosterone can raise your test levels.

I didn't think so either. But Yes it does. When I add Deca to my Trt, my labs show an increase in testosterone.

Mattymoo
03-25-2020, 04:25 AM
I think Deca shows up as Test because my last bloods taken i was only cruising on 250mg Test and 200mg Deca and my Test levels were insanely high