IJ and Pyes

[grim]

kinda the point they have enough to put him away, and start up a new investigation while pumping him for info...

it's how le works....

[jinko]

I'm surprised the reward is only 5K.

[315 BEAST]

You guys act like they are questioning him regarding AAS, they have enough to put him away for a long time. Chances are good they aren't horribly interested in IJ...yet.

Yet is key

[gator-mclusky]

kinda the point they have enough to put him away, and start up a new investigation while pumping him for info...

it's how le works....

Yep...goes back to the point we made earlier. If LE walks in to bust him for Ch*ld Porn and sees a pile of Cocaine....I doubt there going to say....Well...we're just here to arrest you for the Cho Mo charges....and say "leave the cocaine fellas and lets not question him about that stuff...we have enough on him.

Once theyre caught in the web they will suck him dry. NOW......is LE going to put blood hounds on the trail of his Stero*d ties.....nah, but they sure arent going to ignore it.

[exphys88]

Your crazy if you think they won't use aas info against him. They're going to hand his computer over to DEA immediately, and they're going to suck him dry of any info he has, and he's going to squeal to get a plea bargain.

[PAiN]

This shit kills me.... Still I see members from there talking shit about BOP when the staff at IJ FUCKED ALL OF YOU. They don't give a fuck what happens as long as they are getting paid from GDL. The entire staff you called friends was getting paid by GDL and when the board went down the only thing they were worried about was getting it back up to fuck you. They tried to cover up this entire thing. If you have any contact with them clean house and run as far the fuck away as you can. If you don't you're an idiot.

[go hard or go home]

And he has been captured. They followed his girlfriend to a remote cabin and moved in with heavily armed police. After searching his girlfriend they found a handgun on her. So Pyes is in custody, I knew once money got involved all bets were off.

[go hard or go home]

Go to readingeagle.com to see the story.

[go hard or go home]

Full story right here, his girl may be in trouble as well for interfering with an investigation, and harboring a fugitive.




http://readingeagle.com/article.aspx?id=444239

[Red Circle]

Glad to here , 1000s of pics and video. Guess his girl was wrong by saying he downloaded once and stopped when he realized what it was.

[jinko]

Girlfriend? I thought he was married.

[go hard or go home]

I dont think legally, think just together so long you call her wifey lol. But she may be in trouble now, but Im nearly certain she was ccl so gun is legit, but if they want to be pricks there is harboring a fugitive, obstruction, and Im sure a few more.

[colochine]

I dont think legally, think just together so long you call her wifey lol. But she may be in trouble now, but Im nearly certain she was ccl so gun is legit, but if they want to be pricks there is harboring a fugitive, obstruction, and Im sure a few more.

Unless she was trying to get paid.

[colochine]

Pyes was smart he probably held out this long knowing they'd offer a reward at some point and he could set his girl up with the money.


Any heard from MPMC?

[RS50]

Unless she was trying to get paid.


Could be true,
But if not than he must not really cared about her that mulch because he should have known any contact with her (while he was on the run) would be putting her at risked of arrest or even worst if she made the wrong move, to me if you really loved her you would want her to be trouble free as much as possible so that she would be there for your kid. Being on the run is about the same as Federal Witness Protection unless you want caught or to put others at risk you have to forget about everyone no matter how hard it hurts. Your life has to start over and all contacts COMPLETELY STOPPED no matter how bad it hurts.

I have done a few years of bounty hunting in my pass and I've always try to have a tags on my fugitives mates or sometime certain members of the family, I'm not saying always by no means but I will say more than half of the time they lead to the person that you're looking for in person or by phone or email. The main thing is having patience and good tags on the right people.

But I for one am 100% glad that he got caught and even though I really liked him, I hope he receives no mercy, due to issue that it is over.

[go hard or go home]

Who knows how it came about, it could have been there way to bail money, could have been her way to child care funds, maybe a family member knew she was seeing him and said shit $5,000 is good money. Reading Pa is the poorest city in the United States so if one person knows where you are you are as good as done lol. Shit $5,000 in Reading is a quarter of the way to paying off a house and Im not bull shitting, thank God I live out side the City.

[gator-mclusky]

Heard word that Pyes was caught. The link wasnt posted as my bud didnt want to even have that on his PC. Ill see if I can find it....shouldnt be that difficult. Anyone else....feel free to look as I dont know his real name or any details.

[RS50]

Heard word that Pyes was caught. The link wasnt posted as my bud didnt want to even have that on his PC. Ill see if I can find it....shouldnt be that difficult. Anyone else....feel free to look as I dont know his real name or any details.




http://readingeagle.com/article.aspx?id=444239

[grim]

that $5,000 reward will pail in comparison to the added charges, not smart if you ask me and something only an idiot would attempt. Hey lets get my girl involved with a shitload of charges, me on the run, higher bail etc for $5,000? right.....

pyes was anything but smart, he was a greedy kiddie loving sicko

[gator-mclusky]

Yea.....a sicko!!!!!!!!!!! Quarter million bucks!!!!!! He wont fare to well in population and he looks small.

And thanks RS...that was quick!

[RS50]

Yea.....a sicko!!!!!!!!!!! Quarter million bucks!!!!!! He wont fare to well in population and he looks small.

And thanks RS...that was quick!

And I hope his new cell mates makes him feel like a child HIMSELF being molested over and over again and again

[Camzilla]

http://readingeagle.com/mobile/article.aspx?id=444465

July now arrested.

[gator-mclusky]

Whew.....I hate to down someone on their looks but Pyes GF was one bad off lookin biatch. AND they hve a 5 yr old boy. Wonder if he molested him. I Pray he didnt.

[grim]

so much for that payday theory hey....

[PAiN]

http://readingeagle.com/mobile/article.aspx?id=444465

July now arrested.

Great find thanks for the info bro.

[darksidefitness]

You must be right but she has good sense of humor...I guess the cop said...look the pretty bird!!!



Whew.....I hate to down someone on their looks but Pyes GF was one bad off lookin biatch. AND they hve a 5 yr old boy. Wonder if he molested him. I Pray he didnt.

[go hard or go home]

Yeah she is released now though. Well guys all shitting aside now is where GDL, and a few others from IJ need to watch there asses man because if someone wants to make a simple charge or to vanish then all the sudden AAS and tons of ther shit will hit the fan. Guys seriously I dont want to scare you all but if you played on IJ frequently and Pyes or July had info on you, now would be a good time for Spring cleaning fuck the fact that its Winter time. Now I never knew Pyes to be a snitch but aparently there is obviously a shit ton I did not know about the guy so nothing will suprise me at this point. I just dumped about $900.00 worth of shit I had ready for after surgery and you know what I did it with a smile because $900.00 is not shit compared to my lawyer $13,000, bail ahh $5,000 freedom priceless fuck that.

[grim]

Yeah she is released now though. Well guys all shitting aside now is where GDL, and a few others from IJ need to watch there asses man because if someone wants to make a simple charge or to vanish then all the sudden AAS and tons of ther shit will hit the fan. Guys seriously I dont want to scare you all but if you played on IJ frequently and Pyes or July had info on you, now would be a good time for Spring cleaning fuck the fact that its Winter time. Now I never knew Pyes to be a snitch but aparently there is obviously a shit ton I did not know about the guy so nothing will suprise me at this point. I just dumped about $900.00 worth of shit I had ready for after surgery and you know what I did it with a smile because $900.00 is not shit compared to my lawyer $13,000, bail ahh $5,000 freedom priceless fuck that.
and ffs run from gdl and his new found 'home' grow a brain cell people.
They are gonna use her to force him to roll further..

Times like this make me glad im a retired gimp.

[PAiN]

and ffs run from gdl and his new found 'home' grow a brain cell people.
They are gonna use her to force him to roll further..

Times like this make me glad im a retired gimp.



Anyone with any contact with GDL or the staff needs to RUN and clean house then fucking run some more.

[grademan]

GDL------is that gear depot

[BigH]

Thanlks for the info guys.....

[D-RED]

wow....crazy

[ice water]

Anyone with any contact with GDL or the staff needs to RUN and clean house then fucking run some more.

Contact as in personal friends or pm'ing them? I know I used to speak with Vic z06

[315 BEAST]

Thanks for all the great info fellas

[spraynpray]

Any heard from MPMC?
Was wondering that myself. Or maybe Patriot could chime in I know hes been around lately.

[gator-mclusky]

I got word that MPMC is laying low for obvious reasons. He states that he is truly embarrassed and had no clue that Pyes would have been involved in chi*d po*n. He categorically denies any involvement at all.

Thats what I heard from a very reliable source.

[go hard or go home]

I dont think any staff had knowledge the Pyes was looking at child porn other wise Im nearly certain he would have not had a staff. MPMC did say he was done with all the boards because this shit went down. I was staff there for a little bit and certain things were going down that I didnt like and because I refused to lick and stroke GDL cock I got Unmoded and even fucking got banned and I have the PM to prove it was GDLs call. Shit most of you guys from there knew when I was there I was straight the fuck up with you. Shit I will even let a bigger cat out the bag GDL paid them to cut certain sponsors ie 24reup, Asia Pharm, and a few others GDL paid this with 3 big auctions and how would I know that after all I was banned when auctions happened right? The decision was made prior to my banning thats why. Therefor GDL had who he wanted on the board and he knew I was not a sell oit and asked to have me cut and boom I was done.

[Patriot1405]

Not much to chime in about really. I know that roughly 3-4 months before this whole debacle, I was asked if I would be willing to help out and be a Mod. This was asked of myself and another fellow member "Today" . Pyes contacted both of us and asked if we could help MPMC and himself with the board. He told us it would be a non paying job, as the board was still young. I told him that I was logged on as often as i could anyway, and that I would be happy to help out if I were able to. I stressed to him my work hours and that I wouldn't be able to log on as often as someone else would, to which he replied that it wasn't an issue. I cannot speak for anyone else but I can absolutely say that I was never EVER paid for whatever help I was able to give!!!! I know Pyes and GDL spoke often and were good friends. As far as GDL being in charge and possibly paying staff, I have no knowledge of that! As far as Pyes, all I can say is that I'll be 49 soon and am a father of two beautiful children. I cannot for the life of me understand that type of deviant behavior. Taking the innocence of children is so unbelievably wrong! I hope he suffers full consequence!! I have read somewhere that possibly the staff knew of this. I don't believe this to be true. Again I can only speak for myself, but it would seem to me that someone with such abhorrent behavior would not share his tendencies with another, much less multiple people. Just doesn't make sense to me. When IJ went down I was unaware of what happened . I contacted Victor, and MPMC. Victor never got back to me. MPMC informed me of what happened and then I never heard from him again.Today, I also never heard from. I'm still on a few choice boards, I have no reason to hide, I have always chosen to be an honorable person and treat people with respect. Those who know me, know this to be true!! I don't lie,cheat or steal, I live by the same code I teach my children!! I would like to thank those who have emailed or pm'ed me, asking if I were okay, you know who you are!!

[go hard or go home]

Who ever said they believe staff knew of his child porn is truly silly I highlt doubt any of the staff knew of this and if they did I can say I hope they truly rot in hell but again I highly doubt anyone knew of his actions. I should also say Patriot, nor Today were staff when my debacle went down eith GDL and other staff at that time it was myself, Pyes, MPMC, and Victor. Patriot I think its messed up they didnt pay you as I know for a fact other staff were paid just goes to show some guys were there for themselves and gave a shit about no one. Also I am shocked Victor did not reach out to you when you sent him a pm thats crazy. Funny thing is when they decided to wipe the board did anyone besides my self notice GDLs forum was the first one down lol?

[TODAY]

Not much to chime in about really. I know that roughly 3-4 months before this whole debacle, I was asked if I would be willing to help out and be a Mod. This was asked of myself and another fellow member "Today" . Pyes contacted both of us and asked if we could help MPMC and himself with the board. He told us it would be a non paying job, as the board was still young. I told him that I was logged on as often as i could anyway, and that I would be happy to help out if I were able to. I stressed to him my work hours and that I wouldn't be able to log on as often as someone else would, to which he replied that it wasn't an issue. I cannot speak for anyone else but I can absolutely say that I was never EVER paid for whatever help I was able to give!!!! I know Pyes and GDL spoke often and were good friends. As far as GDL being in charge and possibly paying staff, I have no knowledge of that! As far as Pyes, all I can say is that I'll be 49 soon and am a father of two beautiful children. I cannot for the life of me understand that type of deviant behavior. Taking the innocence of children is so unbelievably wrong! I hope he suffers full consequence!! I have read somewhere that possibly the staff knew of this. I don't believe this to be true. Again I can only speak for myself, but it would seem to me that someone with such abhorrent behavior would not share his tendencies with another, much less multiple people. Just doesn't make sense to me. When IJ went down I was unaware of what happened . I contacted Victor, and MPMC. Victor never got back to me. MPMC informed me of what happened and then I never heard from him again.Today, I also never heard from. I'm still on a few choice boards, I have no reason to hide, I have always chosen to be an honorable person and treat people with respect. Those who know me, know this to be true!! I don't lie,cheat or steal, I live by the same code I teach my children!! I would like to thank those who have emailed or pm'ed me, asking if I were okay, you know who you are!!

This sums things up pretty well.

Granted, Patriot and I were not staff members for more than a few months, but in all of my time at IJ, there were two things that NEVER happened;

1. I never received payment from, or was asked to give preferential treatment to GDL. There was a point when GDL sent us both a vial or two of test, but bribery was never mentioned. GDL simply wanted to "thank us for all of the work that we did for free". That was the ONLY time that GDL and I ever did business.

2. I never had ANY inkling of what pyes was up to in his spare time. I've seen people postulate that IJ's staff were all in on pyes' fucked-up kiddie porn party, but nothing could be further from the truth.

[spraynpray]

Not much to chime in about really. I know that roughly 3-4 months before this whole debacle, I was asked if I would be willing to help out and be a Mod. This was asked of myself and another fellow member "Today" . Pyes contacted both of us and asked if we could help MPMC and himself with the board. He told us it would be a non paying job, as the board was still young. I told him that I was logged on as often as i could anyway, and that I would be happy to help out if I were able to. I stressed to him my work hours and that I wouldn't be able to log on as often as someone else would, to which he replied that it wasn't an issue. I cannot speak for anyone else but I can absolutely say that I was never EVER paid for whatever help I was able to give!!!! I know Pyes and GDL spoke often and were good friends. As far as GDL being in charge and possibly paying staff, I have no knowledge of that! As far as Pyes, all I can say is that I'll be 49 soon and am a father of two beautiful children. I cannot for the life of me understand that type of deviant behavior. Taking the innocence of children is so unbelievably wrong! I hope he suffers full consequence!! I have read somewhere that possibly the staff knew of this. I don't believe this to be true. Again I can only speak for myself, but it would seem to me that someone with such abhorrent behavior would not share his tendencies with another, much less multiple people. Just doesn't make sense to me. When IJ went down I was unaware of what happened . I contacted Victor, and MPMC. Victor never got back to me. MPMC informed me of what happened and then I never heard from him again.Today, I also never heard from. I'm still on a few choice boards, I have no reason to hide, I have always chosen to be an honorable person and treat people with respect. Those who know me, know this to be true!! I don't lie,cheat or steal, I live by the same code I teach my children!! I would like to thank those who have emailed or pm'ed me, asking if I were okay, you know who you are!!

I was just wondering if you heard from MPMC nothing more. I never in my wildest would imagine you'd be involved in any fashion. I apologize if you thought that's what I was implying.

[Patriot1405]

I was just wondering if you heard from MPMC nothing more. I never in my wildest would imagine you'd be involved in any fashion. I apologize if you thought that's what I was implying.

Never thought that at all my friend!!!
Your always good in my book Spraynpray!!

[RockShawn]

Good the see Pat and Today here. This is such a mess.

[go hard or go home]

This whole thing is a mess and very unfortunate and hell even sad. Pyes really did a number to this community to in which I knew nothing about until he taught me the ropes a bit. Hell the funniest part is when I became staff he preached to me about conducting my self as to be a trust worthy and likeable person, even said some sexual things Ive said in the xxx forum were inapropriate too bad he didnt seek his own advice maybe this shit would not be where it is today. But again anyone who thinks Victor, MPMC, Today and Patriot had something to do with the kiddie shit is a idiot. Patriot has always been nothing but a stand up guy same goes for Today, although Victor and MPMC and myself had some serious head butts at IJ both I could never see getting involved with this sick fucking twisted shit.

[gator-mclusky]

I dont think MPMC was involved. I just talked with him and it's killing him to have his name associated with this and understandably so. If they were, then I believe LE would have had them because they would have been sharing files.They would have been arrested imo.

[brass]

The last time I logged in at IJ was in October.

If I recall correctly they had a vendor selling recreational drugs like marijuana oils.

That is always a red flag, but I would never have guessed that pyes was involved in such dispicable things.

[gator-mclusky]

The last time I logged in at IJ was in October.

If I recall correctly they had a vendor selling recreational drugs like marijuana oils.

That is always a red flag, but I would never have guessed that pyes was involved in such dispicable things.

Ya know, I think you're right. Crazy. I only drifted throughfrom time to time but now that ya mention it it was some kind of weed aroma shit. One of the sponsors said he got ripped off by the company too. I think they didnt send all the product or something. Damn....that site is a poster child of how NOT to run a site. Common sense goes a long way and Pyes has ZERO!!!!!!!

[grim]

i dont believe the staff was involved in the shit either, and unfortunately their names are being drug through the mud for something they had no idea about.
GDL however did know about the investigation, he's even admitted it. His supporters simply say it wasn't his place to warn anyone or to stop supporting an admin caught up in a kiddie porn op :/
Which should really concern people on so many levels...

[ram97!]

Mpmc helped me with info several times on ij and he was always quick to answsr questions and help. As far as pyes is concernerd just goes to show you can be anyone you want online. Hell my current girlfriend is a french model! Bonjour!

[go hard or go home]

See I tried my hardest to keep my mouth shut about GDL because I didnt wwnt my info leaked but you know what fuxk it he apparently cant keep my name out his fuxking mouth yhe guy is reckless if you fuxk with him yoi might as well fuck a bitch with AIDS and after that inject you self with a needle 2.2 seconds after Majic Johnson stuck that exact same needle in is cock cause both ways your as good as done.

[go hard or go home]

Oh and If I find out Pyes was lying to me about people talking shit on me at IJ while it was him the whole time Im going to let a lot of shit out in the open and thays my fucking word. Im done playing these fucking forum games.

[gator-mclusky]

Got word that MPMC went to the site, deleted everything and the members but Pyes GF came behind him and re booted it all. IMO, he's being assumed guilty by association.

[colochine]

Oh and If I find out Pyes was lying to me about people talking shit on me at IJ while it was him the whole time Im going to let a lot of shit out in the open and thays my fucking word. Im done playing these fucking forum games.

LET THE CAT OUT OF THE BAG!!

It's time to start living up to your user name and go hard with this info you got brah!

[JACKFTYPE]

I was around in 06 and there was a huge wave of busts based on the boards. I can't remember the code name of the operation, but they hit a bunch of the mexican underground labs, and lots of domestic sources went down. Some boards closed up voluntarily to avoid getting ugly, and users were brought in for questioning to get to the major producers and sellers.

Yep, that was so big it was on the news. They nabbed a great source, Wickedone back then. Morningstar labs... he was a solid bro with good gear.

Anyways, fuck these scumbags. 1-5 year old kids? Are you fucking kidding me?

[bigpimpdaddy]

Go hard, keep us updated as much as possible... I know there is more to the story than you know as well... But thanks for sharing what you have thusfar..
You just dont know what to expect from all of this...Just hope all of the members info was erased and site was shut down before the LE got any info..

[grim]

Go hard, keep us updated as much as possible... I know there is more to the story than you know as well... But thanks for sharing what you have thusfar..
You just dont know what to expect from all of this...Just hope all of the members info was erased and site was shut down before the LE got any info..
Then you hope wrong, the idiot pyes computers were taken 4 months before this even came to light. The entire time him and GDL thought still running IJ would be smart wo so much as masking his online activities.

Anyone hopeful that info wasn't compromised is using wishful thinking...

[gator-mclusky]

Yea, they have it all and had it. MPMC said he went back and deleted all members an thread but that thing Pyes had for a GF restored it all. Thats the word I got.

[go hard or go home]

Gator it didnt matter if she restored it. They took Pyes computers before they actually got a warrant for him about 3 months before so they had all they needed. Oh and GDL was not the only one who knew LE was involved.

[colochine]

Who all knew? You're teasing us you asshole! Tell us everything!

[bigpimpdaddy]

Well that really sucks.. What a bunch of idiots!!

[bionic redneck]

Who all knew? You're teasing us you asshole! Tell us everything!

i agree with colo...if u have information that proves GDL and others knew... please post it up...cause id like to see concrete evidence that he knew .......and who are these others.... no offense bro id just like to see it and im sure im not the only one..

[TODAY]

i agree with colo...if u have information that proves GDL and others knew... please post it up...cause id like to see concrete evidence that he knew .......and who are these others.... no offense bro id just like to see it and im sure im not the only one..

Agreed.

Knowing who all was invovled would make it easier for those of us in delicate positions to move forward safely.

[315 BEAST]

Gator it didnt matter if she restored it. They took Pyes computers before they actually got a warrant for him about 3 months before so they had all they needed. Oh and GDL was not the only one who knew LE was involved.
Well lets here it bro, sure plenty of people around here would like to know

[grim]

i agree with colo...if u have information that proves GDL and others knew... please post it up...cause id like to see concrete evidence that he knew .......and who are these others.... no offense bro id just like to see it and im sure im not the only one..

GDL admitted to knowing, why is any 'evidence needed?'

[grim]

btw going to a non secured board hosted in the same state GDL lives is not a good way to move forward 'safely' kinda the opposite.

[bionic redneck]

do u have any proof he admitted it? thats what we are askin bro... we are not flaming u. simply asking for proof

[grim]

well he tried to assure everyone that him and pyes did things safely during the investigation only using phones to log in to ij 'which isnt safe btw'
He was on bop shout even saying this crap but i didn't feel the need to record it...
or how about just 1 of the emails where I set him up to prove he's an info collector 'which he did exactly what hes been accused of btw'


Lol..kid porn investigation..thats a good one...I assure you there is and never was a conectio. Between me and pyes..and heres some info for you ..pyes computers were taken 2 months ago. And he was on the run weeks before there was a warrent issued for his arrest...and the computer that they got from him wants his lap top that he used to log into ij with..just sayimg..and as far as me talki g pyes..we texted..from burn phone to burn phone..so get your facts straight..and let me guess..you think im I. Fl too...lmao...you know Im smarter then that...smoke and mirrors bro is all im gonna say....and im sure youve figured out by now that I ise reshippers..and have since my post off drama...so on that note if yor so scared of me ..dont deal with me then...simple as that..but to form a attack on me is a pussy thing to do xxxxx..have you seen me make one post on what a lier you are or how pain reads everyones email or have you seen me trashi g eg or even bop for that matter..no..becasue I have much better thi gs to do with my time...now like I said..we can continue to do this for as ling as you like..but its really not hurting me or my pocket...just remember..the more you talk..the more my name gets out there..and people arent stupid..they all know you have a personal vendetta agai t gdl...so your words are taken with a grain of salt....just sayimg..focus on beimg happy witu your family..im sure they are more than tired of gdl consuming all your time....hage a great day ...your board is looking great by the way..very impressed..seriously

trust me he admitted it numerous times, even his resellers backed him saying it wasn't 'his place' to say anything..

Still want to know what this vendetta is besides his shit a$$ security..All u ppl playing with gdl or fg are gonna get burned..

[grim]

I gotta say even 'if' he didnt know, do you think it wise for him to continue doing what he is doing after a kiddie porn investigation? You know they scanned everything of pyes, computers, phone records, net logs, everything....
and to top if off going onto a US server in the very state where he lives where LE can easily monitor ALL of YOUR communications! Seriously ppl wake the fuck up!
Pyes didnt mask his net activities = LE has most everything just off his internet logs they could dream of, plus reports that they did in fact get BOTH of his computers!
Your computer is not the only thing u need to worry about!

[PAiN]

well he tried to assure everyone that him and pyes did things safely during the investigation only using phones to log in to ij 'which isnt safe btw'
He was on bop shout even saying this crap but i didn't feel the need to record it...
or how about just 1 of the emails where I set him up to prove he's an info collector 'which he did exactly what hes been accused of btw'



trust me he admitted it numerous times, even his resellers backed him saying it wasn't 'his place' to say anything..

Still want to know what this vendetta is besides his shit a$$ security..All u ppl playing with gdl or fg are gonna get burned..


It is true he admitted everything in the shoutbox. Also the ones involved were never planning on telling anyone about what happened they were going to get the site back up as quick as possible before anyone started asking questions. Everyone in our community needs to thank go hard for being the only one to post about this. He has nothing to gain from lying about this he also never had to even come on here and let us know what happened to begin with, but the other ones from there do have reasons to lie. Weigh the choices and see which one makes sense. Believe it or not or keep making up excuses. We have done all we can to warn everyone. If you want to keep making excuses and making bad decisions enjoy what lies ahead for you.

[315 BEAST]

It is true he admitted everything in the shoutbox. Also the ones involved were never planning on telling anyone about what happened they were going to get the site back up as quick as possible before anyone started asking questions. Everyone in our community needs to thank go hard for being the only one to post about this. He has nothing to gain from lying about this he also never had to even come on here and let us know what happened to begin with, but the other ones from there do have reasons to lie. Weigh the choices and see which one makes sense. Believe it or not or keep making up excuses. We have done all we can to warn everyone. If you want to keep making excuses and making bad decisions enjoy what lies ahead for you.
Well said pain!

[go hard or go home]

Well I know MPMC, and Victor knew the computers were seized before he was arrested they didnt know for what Im sure but they did know the comps were taken. Hell Pyes even stopped letting new people join towards the end inless they were recomended and many of you guys know that, and why do you think they did that? Pain thanks for the good words bro, I just find it funny Im banned from sites I never even been to yet for simply stating facts. I never once flammed anyone on any board all I wanted was to keep everyone safe that simple.

[RockShawn]

Well I know MPMC, and Victor knew the computers were seized before he was arrested they didnt know for what Im sure but they did know the comps were taken. Hell Pyes even stopped letting new people join towards the end inless they were recomended and many of you guys know that, and why do you think they did that? Pain thanks for the good words bro, I just find it funny Im banned from sites I never even been to yet for simply stating facts. I never once flammed anyone on any board all I wanted was to keep everyone safe that simple.

They fear you. But we love you!! I got banned from a site too basically for trying to make sure a couple of bros were safe. My thoughts, who needs them.

[pushiron]

Thanks for watching out for us guys.

[AryanSteel]

Anybody else get a bunch of "we miss you over here at IJ" emails, just happened to check safe-mail and I had at least 4

[grim]

Anybody else get a bunch of "we miss you over here at IJ" emails, just happened to check safe-mail and I had at least 4
yeah along with the grim bash mail.
fng noob sent me them as well....

[grim]

btw ij is now auto trying to dl a zip file with executable...

picture.runme....

[go hard or go home]

Grim not surs I follow? What is it doing in non tech savy words please.

[grim]

when you try to load IJ. Instead it is trying to download an executable file .exe contained in a zip file.
the file named something like picture.runme.exe
Sure smells fishy, normally trojans and other viruses, keyloggers etc are distributed this way from my xp.

I tried to run a virus scan on it, came up clean but that doesn't say much. I'm not about to save the file and open, anyone with access to a cd rom only OS might be willing to check it?
I aint touching it just for safety...Could be a porn dialer. No clue, obviously looks like its trying to trick people into running it based off pictures..

[grim]

hmmm now its not connecting again....

[go hard or go home]

Yeah thats scary shit man, I wont go near it. Feds probally have that shit on lock so its probally logging IPs and shit.

[grim]

im well protected when i browse to check ;)

[gator-mclusky]

I have a Phd. in common fukkin sense. Common sense directs peeps and their actions on these forums. Some things are inexcusable, reckless and can effect the whole community. That is this whole mess. Maybe peeps in the future will learn not to fuk with shit thats out of the boundaries of our community. We are bodybuilders wanting to be in shape, health, converse about some chemistry and help each other out as a close knit community. Some of the common sense mistakes by these owners, members and labs involved is just plain sloppy and stupid! I hope they beat Pyes to death with a broomstick for all I care after this big mess!

[unclem]

I have played hop scotch with customs , le and like. they aint interested in the SMALL buyer there interested in the BIG BUYER and the SUPPLIER, you guys are safe. I know about how it works your fine. but that's as much as I know. pyes the dick head I knew as when I was on here as a mod with him ,. pain when pain first started, about anything else I cant speak to but if you bought 20 vials at a time and thousand orals your safe if any more at one time be careful but don't lose sleep iam serious guys your worri for nothing.

[pushiron]

Thanks for keeping us posted.

[grim]

I have played hop scotch with customs , le and like. they aint interested in the SMALL buyer there interested in the BIG BUYER and the SUPPLIER, you guys are safe. I know about how it works your fine. but that's as much as I know. pyes the dick head I knew as when I was on here as a mod with him ,. pain when pain first started, about anything else I cant speak to but if you bought 20 vials at a time and thousand orals your safe if any more at one time be careful but don't lose sleep iam serious guys your worri for nothing.
the worry is the continued sloppiness and carelessness being done by users, sources and board owners that will effect the entire community.
I take it you know no 'user' caught up in ord, or put on watch lists, or info kicked back to local le....

[dontwork]

Yeah thats scary shit man, I wont go near it. Feds probally have that shit on lock so its probally logging IPs and shit.

Not to split hairs, just more curious than anything... but if IJ was hosted offshore then what are the chances of US LE being able to do anything with that server? Unless they hacked in?

Someone is obviously logging in and doing shady things, but isn't the entire point of hosting offshore to prevent US LE from accessing the server?

[dontwork]

Although since they have Pyes computers, they might have been able to easily auto login with Pyes admin account on IJ. Or more recently since he's now caught, he may have given up the password.

[grim]

Not to split hairs, just more curious than anything... but if IJ was hosted offshore then what are the chances of US LE being able to do anything with that server? Unless they hacked in?

Someone is obviously logging in and doing shady things, but isn't the entire point of hosting offshore to prevent US LE from accessing the server?
It gives hurdles, it doesn't make it bullet proof. Esp if you have no security above being offshore.
Offshore is a step, unfortunately most think it's the only step needed and now many think that it's not even needed.
A US hosted board for instance US LE can get the appropriate court orders and log EVERYTHING coming in and off the board. Everything typed, IP's etc.

An offshore not only could they have gotten his details from his system, he could be cooperating, they could have gotten a server backuo on his system among other numerous other possibilities.

and again as 99.9% of boards are setup LE can easily grab all your ip's extremely easily legally w/o court order. Being a simple member....

[dontwork]

Thanks for clearing that up G.

[Camzilla]

Frankly Im about half tired of the dumbshit. Weve been thru this too many times already. If you're not educated. In internet security, get educated. Based on his crime, Pyes is a bitch. He'll eventually give up anything he has to get loose. Take the time to learn whatcha gotta to avoid being his cellmate. Grim and Gator. Are. Right, common sense is the key.

[Camzilla]

Not directed at you DW, you're solid in my book Bro, you know that.

[gator-mclusky]

Frankly Im about half tired of the dumbshit. Weve been thru this too many times already. If you're not educated. In internet security, get educated. Based on his crime, Pyes is a bitch. He'll eventually give up anything he has to get loose. Take the time to learn whatcha gotta to avoid being his cellmate. Grim and Gator. Are. Right, common sense is the key.

Like Grim said...the sloppyness is getting out of hand. LE can get into anything they want. Anything. And yes, Pyes will down those labs. Id bank on it.

[inhiding]

@ the end of the day LE isn't going to waste their time on users. Unless your sloppy in your personal life and keep your shit in your car so when you get pulled over they find it. In their eyes were no diff than pothead's. They don't go kicking in your neighbors door because someone said they sold them a bag of weed, or because they talked about smoking it on the internet. If LE started doing shit like that they would have to hall in 3/4 of the world population for some crime or another! No judge is going to issue a warrant to LE because you talked about this or that on the internet. Unless you are physically caught doing the crime you don't have to go flushing your shit down the toilet. Some of you guy's are getting a little to paranoid over all this. Pyes obviously has been arrested because he was caught doing something illegal. He was involved in a sting operation. Child porn and using steroids for personal use are too very different things. Child porn is delivered electronically. It was obviously sent to him by LE. They do these kinds of operations all the time. I highly doubt he was entrapped he was looking for that kind of material and was being monitored while doing so.

If you sell juice for personal gain then yes be wary! If your an average person who buys a cycle now and then you really do not have much to worry about. Big Brother most likely knows you use already! Since the Patriot act was enacted the government has been monitoring most of our activity anyways. This is the world we live in! You haven't been arrested yet so why start worrying about it because some demented pervert that ran a forum you were on was arrested. Those are his crimes not ours. Be smart and continue on in life as if nothing has happened because in reality nothing HAS! Use this as a learning experience and don't post things on the internet that you don't want know by the rest of the world. And you won't have to worry next time. Knowledge is not a crime! That's what these forums are for, they are not to brag about how many bottles of shit you got delivered to house. And of course you had to post pics when they got there!

Everyone take a deep breath and relax...

We know what we do is against the law, we know the consequences if we get caught, that's the game we play... either except that or get out of the game...

[grim]

again missing the point entirely...:/

What pyes has done has given le a kickstart into a huge investigation, with hordes of people not taking any precautions.
This can and will effect the entire community...

Just as ord regular users were contacted, put into data bases, on watch lists, etc...

Is it time for people to put their heads in a hole? of course not, the stance 'i'm just a user' however has been used in numerous activities before where le continued to push further and further into dismantling the enterprise as a whole...Online prescriptions is one that rings a bell, they started going after everyone, affiliates, pharmacies, doctors, merchant providers and yes users.

As far as the cases being 2 different things, you never heard of a spin off investigation?

[inhiding]

Paranoia will destroy ya...
Been in this game for a minute not even phased! Theyve got way bigger things on the agenda. But i can respect your position in this situation. But i for one will not lose any sleep cause im not apart of any enterprise you speak of.

[inhiding]

Ill tell ya what ill meet ya back here 1/30/2014 and well see what has changed.

[grim]

it can take well over a year for an investigation...
it's not paranoia, simple facts.

you aren't apart of the bb community? then why are u here?....

Do you remember ORD?....

[inhiding]

I have been a part of this community for almost a decade now. I respect your point of view. But having LE in my family and freinds in most levels of LE im not worried about it. These games have been being played for decades now. Forums come and forums go just like labs. Few years back genx got pop that was a worldwide investigation several different countries were involved in the investigation they had a user database of over 100,000 buyers no user got harassed. They dont have the money or man power let alone a judge that will write warrants for people that are in a data base or on a forum talking about their steroid use. People get caught all the time dont get me wrong. But the LE is not going to go around kicking in doors for crimes that were committed some time in the past. Because you talked about having juice last week doesnt mean you have it today and they cant kick your door in justto find out. They have to have creditable evidence that you are still in possession. In 99% the cases they wont be able to do that if you are some what responsible with your security and keep your mouth shout. Now if your posting pics of your stash on here then ya i would worry. But like i said most people are more intelligent than that. Sarcasm...

[inhiding]

Like i said earlier our government since 911 has been keep track of us all a lot closer. With what is said on the phone as well as txt between most people in this community along with emails and forums they pretty much know what we all do anyway. They know whats going on. There bigger problems in the world than some guy using test to enhance his physic.

[grim]

People have in fact been contacted, the info was kicked back to the local le.
Lets say for a second you are 100% right and not a single user will be contacted, nor used in order to get the higher ups 'which umm LE has done for years'
Lets say you are 100% right, you are still forgetting the sources, of both raw and finished product people depend on are in jeopardy.
After ORD I remember how everything was dismantled, impure and easily put dangerous.
Like it or not that effects EVERYONE involved in the game.
Thankfully I'm a retired gimp so I'm out of the game, but the notion that users have never been pinched, harassed or anything is blatantly false.

I've been on boards for almost 2 decades...and seen plenty of 'users' caught up.

Hell I even got contacted because I bought from a peptide place...

I think you might be not getting the main point behind why this thread is still going.

The source that was very closely tied to pyes, pyes even made his labels among other numerous things knew full well about the kiddie porn op.
For months pyes and this source still decided to do business, all the while pyes was being investigates. Neither Pyes nor the source masked their Internet activities.

The source was already a nightmare for security. who has now moved onto a US server with a bunch of ppl reselling for him and others 2 stupid to head warnings.
Yes those with common sense should be fine.
Unfortunately this is a powder keg beginning to boil, and numerous people going to this board are members even here.

A US board US LE can monitor EVERYTHING with the appropriate court orders.

Community security is at an all time low as is...........

[grim]

funny busts, investigations, congress hearings sure tell a different story

[inhiding]

They can get to any board any where if they want too. Not a valid point. In todays world anything on any server any where can be compromissed. They dont even have to go that far though if they want to go on a witch hunt all they have to do is set up an account here and there would be plenty of info for a grand jury on plenty of people. Its all out in the open. They dont really care bro. They going to go round up all the cracheads and heroin junkies in the world. Hell no! When it comes down too it we are not much different. There will be be that get busted but it wont be the little guys they dont give a shit. They dont need us to get to the bigger fish in this situation all they have to do is log on and place an order... lmao. No offensive i really do respect your points of view . But all the evidence they would ever need would be right in front of them.

[inhiding]

In the world of computer security most security specialist started out as black hats as a kid. The greatest black hats go prison. You know where a lot of those felonious black hats go after serving their time. They put on a white and work for the government. There are plenty of very intelligent computer geeks that can find out information on all of us just by stopping by here for an hour. Pyes was a deranged pervert thats why he is where he is. You dont think for a second LE didnt know about IJ before that. The sponsors on that site are the ones who need to worry those are e the people they will be going after. Think about if i was selling cocaine on a website owned by some one else that person got arrested for jacking off to child porn they track me down because of that, and then i said well i sold blow to you do you really think they are going to come arrest you??? They wouldnt have too all the proof they would need would be right there on the computers. Even the record of me selling to you. But legally what are they going to do arrest you because you snorted a line i sold you in the past. I dont think so... the community will survive this...

[gator-mclusky]

I hope to see what Pyes gets from all of this time wise.
Like I mentioned earlier on the common sense thing. Common sense says that if you are involved in ChildPo*n then you will get caught. ICE shows up at your door and youre fukked. Where are these pedofiles locked away that they dont know this. And the penalties are severe flat time in most states.
Lack of common sense. If we all use common sense alot of this will never be an issue.

[grim]

I've been doing servers/security for over 15 now 16 years., It is a very valid argument. Can they get in places sure, they can much easier on a domestic server.

I'm sorry but you really have no idea what your talking about, I honestly gave up reading after the first line...

according to your logic offshore encrypted e-mail is just a waste of time right?

Joining a forum and placing an order only gives them so much information, I really get the feeling you have no clue on the technology involved, how it can find/track people once compromised far more than simply joining a forum.

But if we took your stance lets all go onshore, lets use non encrypted onshore emails, lets pay with standard credit cards..

You know the security put in for a reason..

[inhiding]

I have a degree in IT security bro but I don't work in the field cause I make more money in my personal business. Lets just agree to disagree, I respect you trying to protect everyone thanks. I don't want to get into a pissing match with you about IT security. You have some very valid points I just dont think every around here has to go flushing gear because of what pyes has done. thats all I am saying. If you think that any of these forum are secure from Big Brother you are wrong they are NOT! If he wants one of us he will get us... End of story. But I for one am not worried about it because like I have said before I know the rules and the consequences for breaking them. If your not willing to accept that you shouldn't be in the game in the first place.

Just by browsing this forum and using a little social engineering ( remember that from school ) LE could do plenty of damage around here they don't need pyes computers or data bases. It wasn't to long ago this place was being hack every other month. Do you remember that it doesn't matter where the server is if they want to they will get in. They not looking to put every juice head in jail. They just want the big fish. Their will always be a demand so their will always be a supply. Their will be greedy people, and the unwise who get caught along the way! End of story...

[grim]

i think we actually agree in numerous ways but it has yet to click.
Yes security is @ all time lows, simple image calls can trace and track user ip's etc.
The difference with a domestic server LE can easily legally mirror the port, everything on the server to and from.
Much more effective, and silent than a hack and legal...
Not as easily done in certain offshore locals.
I agree nobody should go around flushing, people however should wisen up and get security back on track avoiding fires..

BTW real world XP is night and day from school, not a cut simple reality.

Im an admin myself and my entire priority has been tightening security as no, I don't believe any forum is truly safe atm
Offshore however is definitely a requirement...

[inhiding]

Besides they need us juice heads you want to watch a bunch of average Joe's play sports! Who the hell would pay to see that????

I always said if they started an all natural league in whatever sport you chose and then have another league that allows steroids in the same sport, well see who sells more tickets!

Giving you "fist bump" and "wink" were cool brother... see ya around

[go hard or go home]

Looks like even more charges for Pyes.
http://www.wfmz.com/news/news-regional-berks/More-charges-against-alleged-member-of-child-porn-ring/-/121418/18342252/-/bdbubgz/-/index.html
^^^^^^^^^^^
copy & paste in the browser

[bigpimpdaddy]

Thats some real serious shit there.. Who knew IJ would have lead to this crap??Just goes to show you,you never know who you are dealing with.. And all this time I thought pyes was a stand-up dude... Even after he knew about the investagation he still carried on like nothing was wrong.And as far as GDL goes I dont think his dealings with the LE are over either..

[grim]

Thats some real serious shit there.. Who knew IJ would have lead to this crap??Just goes to show you,you never know who you are dealing with.. And all this time I thought pyes was a stand-up dude... Even after he knew about the investagation he still carried on like nothing was wrong.And as far as GDL goes I dont think his dealings with the LE are over either..
yup and they are gonna charge him with everything they can but just let all the gear, labels, connections slide..
right............................

[go hard or go home]

Yeah they just keep piling them on there for him. They also gave him a 100k bail for those additional charges, then he has the 250k bail for the original charges.

[grim]

Yeah they just keep piling them on there for him. They also gave him a 100k bail for those additional charges, then he has the 250k bail for the original charges.
What they usually do to pressure someone to turn while keeping what they are after out of the spotlight....

[inhiding]

yup and they are gonna charge him with everything they can but just let all the gear, labels, connections slide..
right............................


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9ObLGRq33o

[inhiding]

Met a girl called Lola and I took her back to my place
Feelin' guilty, feelin' scared, hidden cameras everywhere
Stop! Hold on. Stay in control

Girl, I want you here with me
But I'm really not as cool as I'd like to be
'Cause there's a red, under my bed
And there's a little yellow man in my head
And there's a true blue inside of me
That keeps stoppin' me, touchin' ya, watchin' ya, lovin' ya

Paranoia, the destroyer.
Paranoia, the destroyer.

Well I fell asleep, then I woke feelin' kinda' queer
Lola looked at me and said, "ooh you look so weird."
She said, "man, there's really something wrong with you.
One day you're gonna' self-destruct.
You're up, you're down, I can't work you out
You get a good thing goin' then you blow yourself out."

Silly boy ya' self-destroyer. Silly boy ya' self-destroyer

Silly boy you got so much to live for
So much to aim for, so much to try for
You blowing it all with paranoia
You're so insecure you self-destroyer

(And it goes like this, here it goes)
Paranoia, the destroyer
(Here it goes again)
Paranoia, the destroyer

Dr. Dr. help me please, I know you'll understand
There's a time device inside of me, I'm a self-destructin' man
There's a red, under my bed
And there's a little green man in my head
And he said, "you're not goin' crazy, you're just a bit sad
'Cause there's a man in ya, knawin' ya, tearin' ya into two."

Silly boy ya' self-destroyer.
Paranoia, the destroyer

Self-destroyer, wreck your health
Destroy your friends, destroy yourself
The time device of self-destruction
Light the fuse and start eruptin'

(Yea, it goes like this, here it goes)
Paranoia, the destroyer
(Here's to paranoia)
Paranoia, the destroyer
(Hey hey, here it goes)
Paranoia, the destroyer
(And it goes like this)

Paranoia, the destroyer
(And it goes like this.)

[grim]

i get the feeling you have no idea how this shit works, its not paranoia, simply facts. Talk to people who have been through the system....
PA btw is the state who gets a hard on for these investigations, but I'm sure that 'fact' will just be paranoia to you...

[inhiding]

LOL!!! Their come for us all !!!!!!!!! AHHHHHHH !!!!!!!!! Hiding behind tree !!!! You don't see me........ relax

[grim]

Please explain why then they followed his every net movement for months, got a ton of gear, brew equipment, labels for finished product. and gheee aren't gonna charge them with any of that, yet charge him with every little thing else they can?

I've known numerous people in similiar situations, they keep info quiet on what they are after/what is open. This is simple basic common sense.

[inhiding]

That what I keep telling you. Those are his problems not mine or yours. I didn't break any laws, did you???

[grim]

sigh....and why would they be keeping it quiet..
To use against others.......

[inhiding]

maintain radio silence! quit sending smoke signals! stay calm man!!!!! shhh... they will hear you crying

carry on

[inhiding]

Been through this many, many times the sun will come back out bro... there will be brighter days, you just have to keep it together long enough....

[grim]

Im trying to actually be serious on a serious subject....you seam to think security, and ppl rolling etc is a 'joke'

[grim]

Im a disabled gimp, besides a few peptides and other alternatives I use nothing.
Im not worried about myself, or if the sun will come out again.
I want the sun to keep shining......
Why is security such a joke to everyone until shit hits the fan? I've been through numerous ppl like you talking that way until shit hits the fan they curl into the fetal position.

This is no joking matter, anyone with any XP @ all can see the signs and danger.

[inhiding]

Here's another good one I like this one on my way to the gym
I like the chorus... The boogy mans coming, the boogy mans coming...

its called PET by A Perfect Circle

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6ITkCCLKqM

[inhiding]

Trust me bro I got a strong back. Walk through FEAR, or it will consume you! No one here has done anything, Pyes did! why do I have to worry??? I'm just your average joe Bro. I took acid and smoked some pot years ago too. They going to arrest me for that. ASK ANYONE on here we are all law abiding citizens today!

[grim]

Learn from the past or let history repeat itself.

This is not all about 'you'......................

[gator-mclusky]

Ok gentlemen. We see the points. Let's move on please.


gator

[grim]

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Berks-County-District-Attorney/505323299492746
interesting link, the DA has a facebook :P

[bionic redneck]

a mod has asked that yall move on... please do as he says and end the drama.. yall have said what u wanted too..

[Ironworker1]

Be cool, be safe, be humble, be free!!!
Move along bros...

[grim]

a mod has asked that yall move on... please do as he says and end the drama.. yall have said what u wanted too..
a mod did not ask for updates not to be posted.

Why is it only those @ FG with no sense of security so worried on new information?
Bionic I will NEVER shut up on security issues.
Sorry you like the thought of a jail cell. Maybe u wanna be pyes roomie?

If you'll notice on the DA's page there is more information and one can get more of a ghist of how he operates.

But wow updating and securing is drama....RIGHT....

[bionic redneck]

Ok gentlemen. We see the points. Let's move on please.


gator
dude u talk about the same things every day. .. with the exception of that page... it beating a dead horse.. thats all im sayin.... and yes a mod did say enough is enough

[grim]

dude u talk about the same things every day. .. with the exception of that page... it beating a dead horse.. thats all im sayin.... and yes a mod did say enough is enough
dude are u a mod? dude u dont care about security...
Im all about security. that's kinda my point like you dismissing security is yours
Reread what he said SLOWLY. He even Pmd me...

[bionic redneck]

yes i care bout security... i take precautions for myself.. but its like this...with all this talk yall been doin to warn ppl about security.... ppl are gonna do what they are gonna do anyways... regardless... so beating a dead horse isnt gonna influence ppl one way or the other... just like complaining about the govt or the president or these gun control proposals... its the same differance... so by going on and on and on... what good are u doing... other then dragging it on.. ur not.. so as gator said.... move on.. i re read it.. and i know gator very well he is a good friend of mine..so drop it.

[grim]

again are YOU a mod....
I was updating the situation...
You turned it into drama as you dont care about security...
Jesus updates to a security situation has been bad in the community since when?
Why do you continue to turn this into drama instead of simply leaving the pertinent update to a security issue?
Ill be the bigger man here and walk away as its obvious FUZO and his security haters are against anything related to COMMON SENSE security

[jinko]

Get your popcorn out