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go hard or go home
12-20-2012, 03:01 PM
Hey guys just wanted to inform you all in case you did not know or hear. IJ is done for good, and even if it does come back up you are putting your self at a huge risk by going on. Pyes apparently was involved with some shit I would have never thought he would be being I knew him for so long we were friends off these sites for many years and what I hear is shocking to say the least. His computers have been seized by the police, so if you get any messages do your self a favor and DO NOT RESPOND. I will do my best to find out more info and bring it to you guys in a decent amount of time, but from what I am told is he did not wipe the site like many of us have hoped he did, now thats just what Im being told I cant say for sure however.

go hard or go home
12-20-2012, 03:02 PM
Hey guys just wanted to inform you all in case you did not know or hear. IJ is done for good, and even if it does come back up you are putting your self at a huge risk by going on. Pyes apparently was involved with some shit I would have never thought he would be being I knew him for so long we were friends off these sites for many years and what I hear is shocking to say the least. His computers have been seized by the police, so if you get any messages do your self a favor and DO NOT RESPOND. I will do my best to find out more info and bring it to you guys in a decent amount of time, but from what I am told is he did not wipe the site like many of us have hoped he did, now thats just what Im being told I cant say for sure however.

colochine
12-20-2012, 03:05 PM
Thanks for the info bro.

beanlicker
12-20-2012, 03:08 PM
Good looking out! Thanks for the heads up!

go hard or go home
12-20-2012, 03:09 PM
No problem guys. I will do my best to get more info.

baby1
12-20-2012, 03:13 PM
Thats horrible to hear

bhcolex50x
12-20-2012, 03:34 PM
damn...

rippedgolfer
12-20-2012, 03:39 PM
That sucks. I liked Pyes.

FUZO
12-20-2012, 03:43 PM
damn...

I have it if needed

go hard or go home
12-20-2012, 03:45 PM
I did too but this is bad man and I just still cant believe he would be involved in this shit.

spraynpray
12-20-2012, 04:08 PM
Thanks for the heads up.

sensitivenips
12-20-2012, 04:24 PM
what the fuck? this is just sick.

DaKajun
12-20-2012, 04:36 PM
Thanks for the heads up GHOGH! This is bad news. Just goes to show you don't know who or what is on the other side of the keyboard.
Be safe everyone.

Mick4
12-20-2012, 04:40 PM
Thats some shit right there! Thanks Bro!!

jurgensplurgen
12-20-2012, 04:54 PM
Maybe I jumped the gun, but purged my email of every contact, sponsor, etc that was in there...shoulda wrote TDs down to save.

ShortnWide
12-20-2012, 05:05 PM
Damn that's crazy.
Never think people are that sick in the head.

VictorZ06
12-20-2012, 05:09 PM
Still in awe....never would have expected this from him. I have no words...I am shocked and never believed he would do such a thing. Not saying he's guilty as I don't have all the facts....but it doesn't look good.




/V

VictorZ06
12-20-2012, 05:12 PM
Let's just hope it's a misunderstanding...but right now, it doesn't look good for him. GHOGH, maybe keep the specifics on the down low until we can confirm all this shit. I got some info from July...hell, you live down the street from him so you should know more than most. Crazy shit....



/V

go hard or go home
12-20-2012, 05:13 PM
Looks really bad, and the fact that he is on the run looks even worse. I am also shocked as I truly thought I knew him after 16 years or so. Just dont know what to say I truly dont.

go hard or go home
12-20-2012, 05:15 PM
Victor I was going to go see July to try and find out more info, but just not too sure she would want to talk because this is just nuts.

sensitivenips
12-20-2012, 05:25 PM
yea man i wouldnt go talk to her just yet, it may be too early if things are really not in his favor, but then again its always good to have a close friend that understands and she may need it...tough call.

go hard or go home
12-20-2012, 05:38 PM
Thats the thing I dont want to go there and piss her off. But at the same time I knew Pyes a long time and just have a hard time understanding this, it just is not the pyes I know and knew.

PAiN
12-20-2012, 05:45 PM
Thanks for the info... Keep us posted.

superbee
12-20-2012, 05:57 PM
This is not good.. I've always respected Pyes...

superbee
12-20-2012, 06:02 PM
By what everyone is saying he did something terrible??? ... Hope he deleted all his e-mails.. Agh.. I haven't had much contact with him in a while

Rooroo
12-20-2012, 06:13 PM
If these charges are true I would guess none u knew him at all!!! Can u be labeled anything worse in this world ? I am as I'm quite sure many of u who knew him better are sick to our stomachs ! I have 00000 amount of sympathy for anyone involved in this crap !! This shit destroys the lives of the innocent!!!

go hard or go home
12-20-2012, 06:36 PM
Rooroo you are correct but lets try to hold some judgement until we find out more info, Maybe he opened up a fucked up email or something man. It is possible for that to happen so lets wait and see because I knew Pyes for a very long time and this just does not seem right to me. We hung out a lot as kids and shit and although we havent really chilled in a while I would like to think I knew him well enough to think he would have not done this. Maybe Victor can find out more info, maybe I can, but in the mean time lets wait and see. If we do find out it was 100% his doing then we can go from there. But pyes truly was a good, respected, and liked guy not just in this industry but in real life.

bronco
12-20-2012, 07:14 PM
Well I'm not going to say its not true b/c I don't no pyes in real life but I find it very hard to believe . Either way the past few weeks he has been pretty much absent from the board I figured it was just from the holidays or the hurricane now I'm not so sure

go hard or go home
12-20-2012, 07:42 PM
Bronco it for sure was not the hurricane with Pyes we did not get hit that bad in our area.

Flex4rce
12-20-2012, 07:43 PM
Damn, crazy shit.. Just wish he would have wiped the site..

Patriot1405
12-20-2012, 08:15 PM
I still can't believe it. Unbelievable!!!
July must be devastated!!!

goodfella
12-20-2012, 08:50 PM
I still can't believe it. Unbelievable!!!
July must be devastated!!!

My exact same thoughts...

sensitivenips
12-20-2012, 09:11 PM
he had an outstanding website going, he presented himself as someone who had an upmost respectable mature down to earth kinda dude, and after hearing about the breaking news i just dont know what to think. this got my emotions going a little bit over a dude that i barely knew on the internet. i just keep shaking my head at what this has come down to. gotta say that i definitely feel for july on this one.

Rooroo
12-20-2012, 09:12 PM
I absolutely hear you GHOGH. From the bottom of my heart I hope and pray these allegations (charges) aren't true!! I know lots of good and decent brothers and sisters are going to be hurt by this .

VictorZ06
12-20-2012, 09:44 PM
He is on the run...trying to get $$ for an lawyer. He downloaded something "by mistake". July said it's entrapment and it was a mistake. Don't know what to say...if I hear more, I'll fill you guys in. I know that there are 10 others that are under arrest or have warrants in the area. Damn...




/V

Camzilla
12-20-2012, 10:07 PM
Hate to hear about this. But as rotten as it is, Im gonna ask; do IJ members need to be worried at this point?

FUZO
12-20-2012, 11:04 PM
Lets try and remember guys people around our community over the years that we have know have gotten busted and people cant beleive it but its true and ofcourse friends will stick up for the person but 9 times out of ten its true. and the first thing you should do is be safe,delete emails change stuff.But if peyes was set up or downloaded something by mistake then he shouldnt of ran and then can prove it was a accident but I dont know how you could download this type of stuff without knowing it.You have to click the file open-run or save those are the steps..theres 9 others involved so the other people must of confessed to who was all involved.Havent we all seen that are next door neighbor that we have known for years turns out to be a criminal,or is into killing we never know someone especialy on the internet.Was peyes cool on his board YES but he should turn himself in to prove his innocence if he is innocent.But we all know our community once something happens its never the same for the person.I pray for his wife and kid and if he did do this he needs help and I hope he gets it. As far as members worrying if this is true he would want to make a plea deal and lessen his sentence by mabey ratting on people who knows its just a thought.But if someone is looking at some hard time cmon you know people rat.I'm not saying he will but just look at the odds.I hope he does the right things and stays safe.If something was downloaded 1 time thats a mistake mabey but if he's with 9 others and his ip addy is flagged on these kiddie sites then you just have to ask your self does it add up.Man I feel sad for his wife and kid I hope she stays strong

turbo
12-20-2012, 11:11 PM
I don't have enough posts to view the hidden content. From what I've heard its child porn. I hope it's not true.

ZOOT
12-21-2012, 12:27 AM
This is very troubling news

Flex4rce
12-21-2012, 12:37 AM
Lets try and remember guys people around our community over the years that we have know have gotten busted and people cant beleive it but its true and ofcourse friends will stick up for the person but 9 times out of ten its true. and the first thing you should do is be safe,delete emails change stuff.But if peyes was set up or downloaded something by mistake then he shouldnt of ran and then can prove it was a accident but I dont know how you could download this type of stuff without knowing it.You have to click the file open-run or save those are the steps..theres 9 others involved so the other people must of confessed to who was all involved.Havent we all seen that are next door neighbor that we have known for years turns out to be a criminal,or is into killing we never know someone especialy on the internet.Was peyes cool on his board YES but he should turn himself in to prove his innocence if he is innocent.But we all know our community once something happens its never the same for the person.I pray for his wife and kid and if he did do this he needs help and I hope he gets it. As far as members worrying if this is true he would want to make a plea deal and lessen his sentence by mabey ratting on people who knows its just a thought.But if someone is looking at some hard time cmon you know people rat.I'm not saying he will but just look at the odds.I hope he does the right things and stays safe.If something was downloaded 1 time thats a mistake mabey but if he's with 9 others and his ip addy is flagged on these kiddie sites then you just have to ask your self does it add up.Man I feel sad for his wife and kid I hope she stays strong


Well put, stay safe guys.. Shit can always go down at any moment..

Structure88
12-21-2012, 12:48 AM
Wow

katelly1168
12-21-2012, 12:58 AM
i heard the only reason ij is down is because the server bill wasnt paid because pyes is on the run..and i also head that vic is taking ij over and it will be back up before the weekend is out...and i heard this from a solid source

Flex4rce
12-21-2012, 01:07 AM
All could be true but what are the odds that IJ goes down RIGHT when he goes on the run?

Victor is a great dude, it would just be really hard for me to log back into that site..

PAiN
12-21-2012, 01:40 AM
If you think LE doesn't know about IJ or what has been going on there you are living in a fantasy world.

He was wanted for doing illegal activities online meaning they have been watching him for months and months and months and logging everything he did online and everyone he had correspondence with.

This is the same thing that happened in the other busts in our community. They get one guy for something unrelated to the boards or gear and then wind up busting a shitload of people. We need to be worried about keeping the community and everyone from there safe by telling the truth about this shit and not trying to cover it up. It's time to take this shit seriously.

Clean house and stay safe bro's.

VictorZ06
12-21-2012, 01:56 AM
PAiN is spot on as always. IF IJ does get back up, Pyes will have nothing to do with it. Anyway...moving on.




/V

go hard or go home
12-21-2012, 02:34 AM
Its nuts but yes 8 people were arrested and 2 are on the run Pyes being one of them 2. Now these guys were not all interconnected meaning they were not all sharing with one another per say. But I knew Pyes for many years and this shocks the shit out of me it really does, but did he do it? Maybe but I hope not, but as someone said its really hard to fuck up and download thousands of images of kiddie porn and yes they all had thousands of images on any and all computers. I have tried to get in contact with him just to hear what he has to say and I have been unable to do so as many would expect. But to be honest myhouse will stay clean of any and all bull shit that it should not contain gear wise,

exphys88
12-21-2012, 03:07 AM
If you think LE doesn't know about IJ or what has been going on there you are living in a fantasy world.

He was wanted for doing illegal activities online meaning they have been watching him for months and months and months and logging everything he did online and everyone he had correspondence with.

This is the same thing that happened in the other busts in our community. They get one guy for something unrelated to the boards or gear and then wind up busting a shitload of people. We need to be worried about keeping the community and everyone from there safe by telling the truth about this shit and not trying to cover it up. It's time to take this shit seriously.

Clean house and stay safe bro's.

This!!!!

RS50
12-21-2012, 03:23 AM
http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/video/#!/news/local/10-Arrested-in-Local-Child-Porn-Ring/184208421

bhcolex50x
12-21-2012, 05:37 PM
None of those pics looks like what I'd invision pyes looking like... Hope it's not true man. Don't always believe it just because its the cops those fuckers tried to pin a felony on me 3 years ago nothing to do with kids or hurting anyone but still would have ruined my career, ran sacked my house, harassed me and my friends for weeks and then they gave up. Really hope pyes is innocent for his family's sake.

Mick4
12-21-2012, 06:17 PM
Anyone else getting PM'd from IJ? Or am I just special?

PAiN
12-21-2012, 06:21 PM
Anyone else getting PM'd from IJ? Or am I just special?


What does it say?

Mick4
12-21-2012, 06:27 PM
Lol I dunno. Its from skinsteel. Didnt get an email notification or an email. Got a tapatalk notification. But Im too chickenshit to log on IJ and read it lol.

go hard or go home
12-21-2012, 06:47 PM
STAY AWAY AND DONT REPLY TO ANY PMS.

colochine
12-21-2012, 06:52 PM
Lmao!!!!

Mick4
12-21-2012, 06:58 PM
Lmao!!!!

Lol hey!! The first part of overcoming my chickenshit problem is being able to admit it! Your gonna hurt my precious little feelings if you laugh at me Colo! Lmao

sensitivenips
12-21-2012, 08:56 PM
Lol hey!! The first part of overcoming my chickenshit problem is being able to admit it! Your gonna hurt my precious little feelings if you laugh at me Colo! Lmao

kickball players cough cough i mean soccer players are annoying in that regard, they dont know when to laugh and when not to laugh.

Flex4rce
12-21-2012, 09:01 PM
Fucking nuts...

Mick4
12-21-2012, 09:16 PM
kickball players cough cough i mean soccer players are annoying in that regard, they dont know when to laugh and when not to laugh.

Lol my wife watches soccer on the Lifetime channel. Lol

colochine
12-21-2012, 09:39 PM
kickball players cough cough i mean soccer players are annoying in that regard, they dont know when to laugh and when not to laugh.

Yea lacrosse (butterfly catching) is cool too.

colochine
12-21-2012, 09:40 PM
How come IJ staff hasn't chimed in on why the site is back up. Everyone must have been compromised and is now working with LE.

dontwork
12-21-2012, 09:44 PM
i heard the only reason ij is down is because the server bill wasnt paid because pyes is on the run..and i also head that vic is taking ij over and it will be back up before the weekend is out...and i heard this from a solid source

This whole thing is nut balls crazy. I got pictures of my ass, balls, and other private shit on that board. Wtf?

go hard or go home
12-21-2012, 09:54 PM
Colo Victor and MPMC have been very busy scrubbing the entire site of any and all info. I trust that Victor will soon explain what he did and why he did it, but he seems to really care aboit you guys so he scrubbed everything lol and I do mean everything. Also Victor maybe making his own site soon, so lets see what he says when he is done destroying the shit at IJ.

sensitivenips
12-21-2012, 10:05 PM
This whole thing is nut balls crazy. I got pictures of my ass, balls, and other private shit on that board. Wtf?

so who won the contest?

Camzilla
12-21-2012, 10:06 PM
so who won the contest?

LMAO!!!

deathdodger
12-21-2012, 10:10 PM
What a fucking loser, this guy has spread nasty rumors about people and started problems, it just goes to show he isn't trust worthy or his word. Thanks for looking out. We got to keep guys like him away from here.

Flex4rce
12-22-2012, 12:28 AM
Colo Victor and MPMC have been very busy scrubbing the entire site of any and all info. I trust that Victor will soon explain what he did and why he did it, but he seems to really care aboit you guys so he scrubbed everything lol and I do mean everything. Also Victor maybe making his own site soon, so lets see what he says when he is done destroying the shit at IJ.

That's great to hear.. Been worried about that..

dontwork
12-22-2012, 12:32 AM
so who won the contest?

Christ wasn't that some shit!!! Wife says, "I fuckin' win, now stay off the computer for a while".

colochine
12-22-2012, 12:36 AM
What a fucking loser, this guy has spread nasty rumors about people and started problems, it just goes to show he isn't trust worthy or his word. Thanks for looking out. We got to keep guys like him away from here.

???

go hard or go home
12-22-2012, 12:56 AM
Think he means Pyes, not too many people happy with the guy right now.

colochine
12-22-2012, 01:00 AM
MP and Vic did you guys check the logs for suspicious log ins. My computer inclined friend is saying LE could have logged in and made copies of everything.

Hntd
12-22-2012, 01:07 AM
Sup boys, I need to know if you have shell/SSH access to this server. We NEED to see who logged into the server last and if that person made any copies or did anything else. PLEASE TELL ME YOU HAVE SHELL.

StorminMormon
12-22-2012, 02:40 AM
Jesus... This is all crazy as hell.

IronFox
12-22-2012, 02:50 AM
Sup boys, I need to know if you have shell/SSH access to this server. We NEED to see who logged into the server last and if that person made any copies or did anything else. PLEASE TELL ME YOU HAVE SHELL.

This is a good question and hopefully it can be answered quickly

Nocode8511
12-22-2012, 03:20 AM
Crazy to hear this! Stay safe everyone.

martinright
12-22-2012, 03:31 AM
The whole thing just makes me sick..... fuck.

BIGBOSS
12-22-2012, 11:10 AM
This is disgusting to hear and read.

FrankTheTank
12-22-2012, 11:51 AM
Nothing worse than innocent children being hurt! Very disturbing story!

deathdodger
12-22-2012, 01:39 PM
This is very disturbing, man this guy is a piece of work, we don't need him around or others like him.

ram97!
12-22-2012, 04:39 PM
Just goes to show you can be anyone you want online. Got kids makes me sick.

Clearfocus
12-22-2012, 05:37 PM
Hope its not true. How can you have such dedication to people on your website and such a sickening lack of respect for children. This does destroy the lives of the victims. I just hope the children make a full recovery from that abuse and two, that pyes was not truly involved.

Tiny
12-22-2012, 06:24 PM
I really don't know PYES, but I can't understand why so many hold him in a positive light.

He ran a board and allowed known scammers there. In one of his threads he basically said that any sponsor should be allowed there until they have shown to be untrustworthy. I'm paraphrasing, of course, but that was his message. Those are NOT the actions of a board owner that TRULY cares about his members. That's a board owner that wants to collect sponsor fees until members get pissed off, then plays a hero by banning the sponsor.
If he really cared, he would have been selective and only allowed reputable sponsors there.

With that said. My heart goes to the children whose lives have been shattered by this sicko, piece of shit.

PAiN
12-22-2012, 06:58 PM
I really don't know PYES, but I can't understand why so many hold him in a positive light.

He ran a board and allowed known scammers there. In one of his threads he basically said that any sponsor should be allowed there until they have shown to be untrustworthy. I'm paraphrasing, of course, but that was his message. Those are NOT the actions of a board owner that TRULY cares about his members. That's a board owner that wants to collect sponsor fees until members get pissed off, then plays a hero by banning the sponsor.
If he really cared, he would have been selective and only allowed reputable sponsors there.

With that said. My heart goes to the children whose lives have been shattered by this sicko, piece of shit.


Agreed.


Has anyone heard from any of the staff from there? It would be nice to get an update about the situation or did they all vanish?

jurgensplurgen
12-22-2012, 07:24 PM
I would disagree with the above. Maybe in the past that had been true, and I hadn't been there all that long...but most of the sponsors were purged, there were only 3 or 4 there for a long while, all g2g with quality goods, may they do well wherever they choose their new homes.
Most of the mods have been around, Vic had been expressing interest in relaunching the board, but most members don't think that's a wise idea.
The majority are here, EG, and a couple other boards I won't name because they have are hosted on onshore, low security servers, and many of us have decided to be extra cautious just in case (despite reports to the contrary) our information had been compromised.

Tiny
12-22-2012, 08:14 PM
I was their since the beginning and there is no "maybe" about it, it is factual. I'm not one to speculate, and if I do, I make it clear that it is a presumption.
It doesn't matter if it was in the past, yesterday, or tomorrow... The actions and intentions are still the same. World Pharma has been a known scam for years and has that reputation on most boards. If somehow PYES was not familiar with WP (which would be nearly impossible), he should have verified references before allowing him on onboard. Same goes with multiple other scammers that were there. Also, that board is less than a year old... I don't know why you would consider that "the past", 6 months ago is fairly recent in my opinion.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that all the sponsors were bad. Nor am I dissing Vic or mpmc, they were not the owners (to my knowledge) if purse was calling the shots, then it falls on his shoulders. There are lots of good members on that board, it's a shame that some were allowed to be scammed.

grim
12-22-2012, 08:30 PM
this whole mess has opened a can of worms in the worst possible way, and was is frightening is so many are running into the flames.

Tiny
12-22-2012, 08:52 PM
this whole mess has opened a can of worms in the worst possible way, and was is frightening is so many are running into the flames.

Can you clarify? I'm not sure what running into the flames means.

Sorry if I'm dumb, but I've never heard that phrase.

grim
12-22-2012, 09:00 PM
Can you clarify? I'm not sure what running into the flames means.

Sorry if I'm dumb, but I've never heard that phrase.
running into danger, aka some wanting IJ backup,

or thinking it's smart to follow a certain closely tied source with pyes to a unsecured, open domestic server.

martinright
12-23-2012, 12:14 AM
running into danger, aka some wanting IJ backup,

or thinking it's smart to follow a certain closely tied source with pyes to a unsecured, open domestic server.

Thats it, running to Fuzo's forum hosted on a domestic server were LE can get to it with a 10 minute drive. An administrator is responsible for the laws for the country he is hosetd in.

Clearfocus
12-23-2012, 01:22 AM
Right now im thinking after everything has settled a bit....... Has LE made copies of the info from IJ? Next, if not, what info was contained in Pyes home computers. How many are at risk? I understand that several individuals are working to eliminate that risk, but after that is done, maybe some forensics are in order. For the safety of the users, that is valuable information. Right now I would say the only safe bet is to keep your house clean. Its the internet, and no matter what, security is the responsibility of the user. That being said.. the main goal of that raid was to eliminate a real evil, not what we do. I would speculate that we have some time to react and prepare accordingly.

grim
12-23-2012, 01:24 AM
security is a dual responsibility, board and user...

go hard or go home
12-23-2012, 01:41 AM
Seems like you are one of the few listening to what I have been saying from the get go. Im the one who brought this whole things with the arrest and all the other shit to light and everyone listened then, but no one wants to listen to me when I say CLEAN FUCKING HOUSE NOW BEFORE ITS TOO LATE, BETTER SAFE THAN SORRY.

PAiN
12-23-2012, 01:51 AM
Seems like you are one of the few listening to what I have been saying from the get go. Im the one who brought this whole things with the arrest and all the other shit to light and everyone listened then, but no one wants to listen to me when I say CLEAN FUCKING HOUSE NOW BEFORE ITS TOO LATE, BETTER SAFE THAN SORRY.



Exactly....

And we got fucking idiot GDL saying to go back to the board and it will be back up you got to be fucking kidding me. He is the first one to be compromised from this if he isn't already.

go hard or go home
12-23-2012, 02:18 AM
PAIN I say it for eveyone man even if I dont like a guy I dont want to see anyone get there home ran into and violated by LE man even GDL even though every time I turn around dude is bashing me.

exphys88
12-23-2012, 02:23 AM
It really is silly to think that the feds aren't going to know everything that pyes was up to. I'm sure they have the capabilities to dig very deep into everything that happened at IJ. And why wouldn't they? They need to build a case against a guy that was involved in child pornography and will use anything negative about him to send his ass to jail for a long time.

colochine
12-23-2012, 02:45 AM
security is a dual responsibility, board and user...

Interesting wording grim ;)

PAiN
12-23-2012, 02:50 AM
PAIN I say it for eveyone man even if I dont like a guy I dont want to see anyone get there home ran into and violated by LE man even GDL even though every time I turn around dude is bashing me.


It really is silly to think that the feds aren't going to know everything that pyes was up to. I'm sure they have the capabilities to dig very deep into everything that happened at IJ. And why wouldn't they? They need to build a case against a guy that was involved in child pornography and will use anything negative about him to send his ass to jail for a long time.


Agreed.... It's only a matter of time before this snowballs into something bigger.

Clearfocus
12-23-2012, 02:58 AM
Pain, I might not know GDL as well as you do, but, what I have seen from him has been positive. I would be a dick to say otherwise with what I have witnessed.

go hard or go home
12-23-2012, 03:00 AM
Hope not but I have to agree, and if they ran up in his house did they get any juice? I would have to say I think so, I hope not but its very very very possible.

grim
12-23-2012, 03:16 AM
Interesting wording grim ;)
always felt that way ;)

even the most secured board can only go so far...

grim
12-23-2012, 03:18 AM
Pain, I might not know GDL as well as you do, but, what I have seen from him has been positive. I would be a dick to say otherwise with what I have witnessed.
you gotta be kidding me....
gdl was a security risk before this, now he's toxic

PAiN
12-23-2012, 03:19 AM
Pain, I might not know GDL as well as you do, but, what I have seen from him has been positive. I would be a dick to say otherwise with what I have witnessed.


Positive as in to tell everyone to go back to the same board that the owner was just busted for child porn 2 days after the raid? or positive as in him telling everyone here in the chat box last night that he was only in it for the money?

Like I said he will go down soon enough if he hasn't already. He is the biggest liability in this community. They have pyes computer and he was extremely close to gdl. gdl ran the board. They know everything about each other.



No worries bro just throwing out facts for you to consider.

PAiN
12-23-2012, 03:23 AM
Hope not but I have to agree, and if they ran up in his house did they get any juice? I would have to say I think so, I hope not but its very very very possible.


That is the scary thing.... He had gear in his house so much he started telling people he wouldn't take gear for banners anymore. The fact that none of that is mentioned in any of the publicity we have seen on the news is more scary than anything. It makes me think they are holding back to get more Intel on others for another bust.

Tiny
12-23-2012, 03:40 AM
That is the scary thing.... He had gear in his house so much he started telling people he wouldn't take gear for banners anymore. The fact that none of that is mentioned in any of the publicity we have seen on the news is more scary than anything. It makes me think they are holding back to get more Intel on others for another bust.

Of course they are. There will be more to come from this I'm sure.

For those involved, be safe...

go hard or go home
12-23-2012, 05:57 AM
I think they are waiting for him to turn himself in and then hit him with the juice, the porn, and I know there was a few weapons that he had. I mean I hope not but we will have to wait and see.

BIGBOSS
12-23-2012, 06:00 AM
Guys just check out this link. http://www.pottsmerc.com/article/20121220/NEWS01/121219282/9-in-custody-for-child-porn-in-berks-4-underage-victims-found?mobredirect=true

All the info you need on this subject.

bhcolex50x
12-23-2012, 06:01 AM
If they went in only knowing about the porn the juice wouldn't b on the warrant and they can't even take it with them

colochine
12-23-2012, 06:07 AM
If they went in only knowing about the porn the juice wouldn't b on the warrant and they can't even take it with them

I'm not to sure about that. Not sure how PA law is but if you're served a warrant anything and everything is fair game.

bhcolex50x
12-23-2012, 06:10 AM
Not in Texas, I was served with a warrant looking for anything related to arson, tools samples of anything flammable in the house and tested the washer and dryer for residues, left all the juice on my desk lol never heard from them again bec the morons figured out they were after the wrong white truck lol

sensitivenips
12-23-2012, 06:10 AM
well i guess when you say clean house you must be talking about the next couple of years cuz these guys will sit on it just like PAIN said to gather more intel.

now i am no computer wiz but iam sure if LE was really interested in this community they would be on all these boards gathering information. i am sure they prolly only need some really exquisite hackers that only need to gain access to the site before retrieving a bunch of information. with that said there are a bunch of us who dont hoard gear, so we really would be a waste of time for a so called raid, especailly when we are spread all over the states. i have been on a couple of these websites for over a year now, and if there were any previous big busts regarding steroid forums in general then i am not aware of it. so if any of you have any pertinent information that could be used from a previous example then please share it with us. otherwise i get IJ needs to be trashed, and no one should go back no matter who cleans what up, but i dont think small potatos matter in this case.

bhcolex50x
12-23-2012, 06:12 AM
Agreed nips, nothing over personal use at mi casa haha

grim
12-23-2012, 06:26 AM
guess you don't remember ord, or personal users being flagged, or so much more...

colochine
12-23-2012, 06:44 AM
guess you don't remember ord, or personal users being flagged, or so much more...

Expand on that.

grim
12-23-2012, 07:06 AM
Expand on that.
the nationwide busts of ord, forums and sites dismantled, numerous end users at minimum questioned...

colochine
12-23-2012, 07:20 AM
the nationwide busts of ord, forums and sites dismantled, numerous end users at minimum questioned...

Go deeper.

grim
12-23-2012, 07:37 AM
Go deeper.
sounds sexual....

id have to get u links, last i read people were still going away from it in 2011

colochine
12-23-2012, 07:47 AM
sounds sexual....

id have to get u links, last i read people were still going away from it in 2011

Lol nice. Nah I believe last of the guys incarcerated were getting close to the end of their sentences.

jurgensplurgen
12-23-2012, 11:34 AM
I was around in 06 and there was a huge wave of busts based on the boards. I can't remember the code name of the operation, but they hit a bunch of the mexican underground labs, and lots of domestic sources went down. Some boards closed up voluntarily to avoid getting ugly, and users were brought in for questioning to get to the major producers and sellers.

bhcolex50x
12-23-2012, 03:07 PM
guess you don't remember ord, or personal users being flagged, or so much more...

Lol I just ment I'd rather get poped for personal use than distribution

sensitivenips
12-23-2012, 03:10 PM
thanks for posting that, no i wasnt aware of it.

if PAIN is cool with it heres a link i found to ord = operation raw deal: http://www.steroidology.com/forum/anabolic-steroid-forum/120147-operation-raw-deal-56-labs-busted-your-name-database.html

but my point is this again, for me personally i dont resell, and i never carry more than needed for an extention of a current cycle, i dont have any close relations to anyone who would be supplying large amounts of steroids or making them, so even coming and questioning me would be a waste of time. the article states they have intercepted thousands of emails though, so whats stopping that from happening now, or stopping them from creating a database full of intercepted information since this event went down. there are so many possibilities here, but i think ultimately anyone who is going to conduct buying steroids through the internet is at risk. plus all the information we users post on these boards could be made up for entertainment purposes only. people who post pictures on gear they have received or even blood results showing test is through the roof would be at more risk than myself or the typical user. how would they be able to prove that we even received the gear to begin with?

but hey if anyone feels differently about what i have stated please feel free to comment. i am not trying to be ignorant here just throwing out some thoughts on this subject.

grim
12-23-2012, 04:59 PM
Lol nice. Nah I believe last of the guys incarcerated were getting close to the end of their sentences.
i just read a few days ago an article of sentencing from ord in 2011...

here is 1
http://www.ironmagazine.com/blog/2011/operation-raw-deal-still-sending-steroid-dealers-to-prison/

go hard or go home
12-23-2012, 05:18 PM
BH that is correct to a point, if they went in for the Child Porn and came across some juice they can then send a detective to obtain a warrant for the juice and sit there and wait for the other warrant to be executed.

If they went in only knowing about the porn the juice wouldn't b on the warrant and they can't even take it with them

grim
12-23-2012, 05:35 PM
besides if you don't believe all his isp logs 'aka' ij have been compromised you are fooling yourselves.

pyes didn't even use a proxy or vpn, he used his own isp direct.

It isn't gonna be hard for them to connect dots esp to gdl..

RS50
12-23-2012, 05:53 PM
WHERE I LIVE IF THEY GO IN FOR A WARRANT AFTER SOMEONE AND THEY SEE ANYTHING IN PLAIN VIEW THEY CAN ALSO CHARGE YOU WITH IT, NOW THAT BEING SAID IF THEY HAD THE PAPER WORK TO TAKE THE PC AND WHILE SEARCHING THE PC FOR PORN THEY CAME ACROSS UNLAWFUL ACTIVITIES ON IT I WOULD THINK IT WOULD BE THE SAME THING AS PLAIN VIEW WHILE LOOKING FOR THE PORN.

Clearfocus
12-23-2012, 06:35 PM
Positive as in to tell everyone to go back to the same board that the owner was just busted for child porn 2 days after the raid? or positive as in him telling everyone here in the chat box last night that he was only in it for the money?

Like I said he will go down soon enough if he hasn't already. He is the biggest liability in this community. They have pyes computer and he was extremely close to gdl. gdl ran the board. They know everything about each other.



No worries bro just throwing out facts for you to consider.



Thank you Pain. Those are things I was not aware of. Going back to IJ after an incident like that is just nonsense. That just screams for attention from LE.

Clearfocus
12-23-2012, 06:37 PM
That is the scary thing.... He had gear in his house so much he started telling people he wouldn't take gear for banners anymore. The fact that none of that is mentioned in any of the publicity we have seen on the news is more scary than anything. It makes me think they are holding back to get more Intel on others for another bust.


BAM!!! you nailed it.

go hard or go home
12-23-2012, 09:59 PM
Yeah I wont visit thats for sure.

grim
12-23-2012, 10:05 PM
Yeah I wont visit thats for sure.

wish u could get it through some of their thick skulls, how much they are running into the blaze..

TheGreatWhiteTruth
12-24-2012, 12:57 AM
Sweet jesus. I thought I smelled ICON again.

gator-mclusky
12-24-2012, 05:31 AM
Rest assured his computer is being looked through with a fine toothed comb. If anyone thinks they will find other illegal activity and not look into it or pursue it, then they are a fool. Its like busting into a house with a warrant for a Burglar and seeing a pile of Coke on the table and saying..."Well, we are looking for a burglar, dont worry about all of that Cocaine!"

gator

grim
12-24-2012, 05:33 AM
Rest assured his computer is being looked through with a fine toothed comb. If anyone thinks they will find other illegal activity and not look into it or pursue it, then they are a fool. Its like busting into a house with a warrant for a Burglar and seeing a pile of Coke on the table and saying..."Well, we are looking for a burglar, dont worry about all of that Cocaine!"

gator
yup...
and they are gonna be playing connect the dots.

proxy
12-26-2012, 10:25 PM
Rest assured his computer is being looked through with a fine toothed comb. If anyone thinks they will find other illegal activity and not look into it or pursue it, then they are a fool. Its like busting into a house with a warrant for a Burglar and seeing a pile of Coke on the table and saying..."Well, we are looking for a burglar, dont worry about all of that Cocaine!"

gator

"In plain sight" and I agree.

darksidefitness
12-26-2012, 11:59 PM
Yes sir...X2. That's why never like the "buy" OLD Icon company and and then replaced everybody "lost" DVD'S. Wayyyyy too strange for me. Donnie Brasco came to my mind at that point.



Sweet jesus. I thought I smelled ICON again.

bronco
12-27-2012, 01:13 AM
have you herd anything new about this ghogh

beanlicker
12-27-2012, 01:33 AM
I heard the site was back up, but I won't touch that motherfucker with a 10 foot pole!

bronco
12-27-2012, 01:50 AM
yeah the day it come back up i went on and logged out, not that it makes much of a difference

2nd2no1
12-27-2012, 02:21 AM
I heard the site was back up, but I won't touch that motherfucker with a 10 foot pole!

Same here iam not going near that place.

ice water
12-27-2012, 03:33 AM
What if you minimally posted on IJ? I doubt they'd dig so deep into each member but prob smart to stay so far away

cb1
12-27-2012, 06:24 PM
I honestly thought Pyes was better than that. Met alot of good dudes there.

builtstrong
12-27-2012, 07:19 PM
Wow four local children. It does look pretty bad. Hope he has some
Size on him, or goes straight into protective custody once/if jailed.
Ppeople with those jackets never last long in the penitentiary. Even the
Worst of the worst hate those types in there.

grim
12-27-2012, 07:27 PM
Wow four local children. It does look pretty bad. Hope he has some
Size on him, or goes straight into protective custody once/if jailed.
Ppeople with those jackets never last long in the penitentiary. Even the
Worst of the worst hate those types in there.
im sure he'll be fed plenty of protein...

go hard or go home
12-29-2012, 01:28 AM
No new news yet guys, I have been keeping my ear to the ground but yet to hear any rumblings but once I do you guys will be the first to know about it. But as I said a few times his computer was seized so Im nearly certain the Feds are well aware of IJ and its dealings so again this is the best way I can say it STAY THE FUCK AWAY... I also know IJ did not just mysteriously go down for non pay the same day his home got ran up in. If you dont want to listen that is fine and danddy but then please see the WHAT TO DO WHEN BUSTED story posted by another member because it may come in handy.

jinko
12-29-2012, 02:22 AM
Thanks for looking out for us. It's crazy he was adamant about your avatar not being anything porno graphic but look what he was up to.

ice water
12-29-2012, 04:00 AM
Who is at risk here tho, every single member or the careless ones posting huge stashes? all those sponsors are fucked na? Be safe brothers


Icewater

go hard or go home
12-29-2012, 04:08 AM
Ice if you had no personal info, purchases, or conversations then I doubt the big dogs will bark at your tree. I would be extremely worried if I were a sponsor, Mod, or someone who was in the process of making a purchase around this time.

PAiN
12-29-2012, 04:59 AM
No new news yet guys, I have been keeping my ear to the ground but yet to hear any rumblings but once I do you guys will be the first to know about it. But as I said a few times his computer was seized so Im nearly certain the Feds are well aware of IJ and its dealings so again this is the best way I can say it STAY THE FUCK AWAY... I also know IJ did not just mysteriously go down for non pay the same day his home got ran up in. If you dont want to listen that is fine and danddy but then please see the WHAT TO DO WHEN BUSTED story posted by another member because it may come in handy.


This!!!!

And for all the fucking idiots following GDL to the boards he is on and still sucking his dick don't come back whining when your ass is busted and do us all a favor and stay the fuck off of here. You have been warned if you don't believe it then that's your own fucking fault.

gator-mclusky
12-29-2012, 06:38 AM
Well....my curiosity got the best of me and I went over. That mutha fukka is up!!!!!!! All post say two wks ago and then todays post. Only 2-3 threads I believe and some chat in shout box about wondering why the site was down! I didnt recognize the names but I didnt hang around long. That place is a "Spider Web"

gator

jurgensplurgen
12-29-2012, 08:05 AM
Fuuukkk. Checked it out. 82 users online, but only two new posts. Also noticed EG was taken off the Affiliated boards list. I want to delete all my old stuff, but if LE is on they already made copies, and I don't want to use my old login anyway.

RockShawn
12-29-2012, 02:21 PM
I think the best bet for any former IJ member is to clean house and lay low just in case. It could take months or weeks for them to sift through everything but if you can plead ignorance and don't have anything on you in case of a search then they'll move on eventually. If you order, don't send it to your house or anyplace tied to you. Don't be paranoid, but be deliberate in everything you do.

Basically follow the security recommendations on this site and what everyone has posted. Get a VPN to connect to forums too.

martinright
12-29-2012, 03:58 PM
I cant believe they restored the board after it was deleted. Dont think for one second LE hasnt been through it with a fine tooth comb and whats to say he didnt have a hidden part of the site for his child porn fetish? Its a dedicated server so
could have had other sites or storage for pictures. Also somebody logged into pyes account 18 hrs ago, If GDL thinks he's safe he is gravely mistaken.

colochine
12-29-2012, 04:24 PM
GDL has all of pyes password.

grim
12-29-2012, 04:33 PM
Fuuukkk. Checked it out. 82 users online, but only two new posts. Also noticed EG was taken off the Affiliated boards list. I want to delete all my old stuff, but if LE is on they already made copies, and I don't want to use my old login anyway.

Good, fron now on EG has no affiliated sites. If you see an EG banner/forum please let me know so I can get it removed.

PAiN
12-29-2012, 04:41 PM
GDL has all of pyes password.



WOW Now that is fucking retarded.

grim
12-29-2012, 04:51 PM
WOW Now that is fucking retarded.

well they were pretty grab assy....

FrankTheTank
12-29-2012, 05:15 PM
I got one of those emails when you haven't been to a board in awhile, from IJ. I wasn't over there much only went there when BOP would be down. But it doesn't seem like I've been away from there long enough to get that email.

ram97!
12-29-2012, 05:26 PM
I got the same email yesterday. Funny i dont rember getting it any other time . But i wasnt a member there very long either. I just deleted it.

spraynpray
12-29-2012, 05:28 PM
WOW Now that is fucking retarded.

LoL!

grim
12-29-2012, 07:19 PM
any word as to why ij is back up, or whom restored it?

go hard or go home
12-29-2012, 07:24 PM
No word man. I just think its a riot that it supposably went down for non payment but comes right back up a few days later lol. Coincidence? Not likely.

grim
12-29-2012, 07:29 PM
No word man. I just think its a riot that it supposably went down for non payment but comes right back up a few days later lol. Coincidence? Not likely.
I fully agree, plus the story changed. Obvious to me 'someone' else is in the picture.
GDL tried to claim he paid the non payment and that story was true, which really makes a guy wonder....

Camzilla
12-29-2012, 07:30 PM
Be nice if there was a way to delete ones acct over there. If no intentions of returning, it would be nice to close the acct. Either way I am Spotless at this point and nevr was a hoarder anyway. I'll be glad when all this shit is done and over.

grim
12-29-2012, 07:32 PM
Be nice if there was a way to delete ones acct over there. If no intentions of returning, it would be nice to close the acct. Either way I am Spotless at this point and nevr was a hoarder anyway. I'll be glad when all this shit is done and over.
they did delete as far as I know, and someone restored from backup....

Camzilla
12-29-2012, 07:53 PM
As much as I know I shouldnt have, I did log in there once simce this all occured, from a public computer.
The restore point is very recent as I am particular about keepimg my pm box empty. I had recently cleaned all but 4 messages that I wanted to keep (good training routine stuff). That is all that was there, everything else was gone same as it was the day IJ went down. I will nvr go back again.

grim
12-29-2012, 08:56 PM
i tried to login, i have nothing to hide. all I do is admin a board, dont buy shit, sell advertising, nothing.
guess its 'supposedly' pyes wife who thinks its a brilliant idea, hmmm im banned...

i find this really disturbing as pyes had no clue on servers, could barely run the vb settings yet his wife all of a sudden magically knows how to restore a database and believes its a good idea to run in the middle of this shit..

right...someone wanna buy stock in bridges?

darksidefitness
12-29-2012, 08:58 PM
How much for the Brooklyn Bridge? :p


i tried to login, i have nothing to hide. all I do is admin a board, dont buy shit, sell advertising, nothing.
guess its 'supposedly' pyes wife who thinks its a brilliant idea, hmmm im banned...

i find this really disturbing as pyes had no clue on servers, could barely run the vb settings yet his wife all of a sudden magically knows how to restore a database and believes its a good idea to run in the middle of this shit..

right...someone wanna buy stock in bridges?

ice water
12-29-2012, 09:14 PM
I still feel like aslong as you didn't get from GDL you're in the clear.. Or post up stash pics / touchdown threads.. Don't think tey have endless funds to be coming to every members pad or place an ip logged in to the acct from

GDL I hope those tattoos weren't temporary , you'll need em in the pen !

sofargone561
12-29-2012, 09:26 PM
any else just get a mass email from pyes email account

PAiN
12-29-2012, 09:40 PM
i tried to login, i have nothing to hide. all I do is admin a board, dont buy shit, sell advertising, nothing.
guess its 'supposedly' pyes wife who thinks its a brilliant idea, hmmm im banned...

i find this really disturbing as pyes had no clue on servers, could barely run the vb settings yet his wife all of a sudden magically knows how to restore a database and believes its a good idea to run in the middle of this shit..

right...someone wanna buy stock in bridges?


How much for the Brooklyn Bridge? :p



LMAO

grim
12-29-2012, 09:46 PM
This is the real srory of what happen. Im tired of hearing all this stories that arent true..

pyes was downloading regular porn from ares..he used the keyword teens and all the files were in different languages. So he clicked a bunch to download... low and behold some of them were child porn...and he deleted them right away...but the cops Got his ip address..they raided the house and took all the computers..because they dindt find nothing from the intital scan they took computers to do recover of deleted files from the hard drive..now they charging him with possesion and distrubution..because ares creates a share folder without your permission...anyways he is on the run..i havent heard nothing from him for 2weeks...everybody is judging him and nobody knows the story even his family...sadly we could not afford an attorney so i guess thats why he wont turn himself in. He is potentially facing 7 years for each file.


He is not being charged with making labels or anything about the website. They are already done checking his computer. The server is hosted in panama anyways.

Now that u know the real story i hope u all are a bit more understanding and feel stupid for judging so quickly and jumping to conclusions and believing false shyt talking from people like grim who spent more time on ij than his own failed board. Its a very unfortunate situation and i apologize to everyone.

is she really this stupid?
but ty for the honorable mention

PAiN
12-29-2012, 09:50 PM
is she really this stupid?
but ty for the honorable mention


LMAO Was this posted on IJ?????


BWAHAHAHA LMFAO All bullshit.

grim
12-29-2012, 09:56 PM
LMAO Was this posted on IJ?????


BWAHAHAHA LMFAO All bullshit.
no they sent a mass mailing trying to get members back.
funny how the reason for the child porn has changed, they just overlooked all the gear or it vanished 'right'
could have sworn if you couldnt afford an attorney one would be provided.

guess she never heard about how these investigations start, or perhaps she already rolled?

panama? dont protect against child porn cases, thanks to pyes to opening that door.

so much bullshit in this mailing.

ram97!
12-29-2012, 10:22 PM
I got same email. Not sure what there is too gain by sendingt yhis. Anyone that is not concerened about all this is retarted! There is no reason to try to convince us of his innocence im pretty sure i wont be on the jury...in my opinion if you really care shut the site down dont give le anymore info.

grim
12-29-2012, 10:24 PM
I got same email. Not sure what there is too gain by sendingt yhis. Anyone that is not concerened about all this is retarted! There is no reason to try to convince us of his innocence im pretty sure i wont be on the jury...in my opinion if you really care shut the site down dont give le anymore info.
what he said....

go hard or go home
12-30-2012, 01:43 AM
I got a little different one. But seriously guys let up a bit. She had nothing to do with the porn crap and her house got raided, the entire area around here is being very hard on her. Her job gave her a hard time and even fired her, her son also has been dealing with the consequences and hes only 4. You guys know I have been straight up with you all from the beginning and will not feed you all bull shit. She is going through a lot and someone went on the board and harrased her, keep in mind she did not do it, even if Pyes did it knowingly I can assure you she had no hands in it but yet someone went ti the site calling her all kinds of crazy names and I saw it myself. Again if you want to hate Pyes thats one thing but lets not bash her. Also guys this is a guy she has been with a long time she is going to stand by him like many of us would hope our wives did if our homes got raided and we got taken away for Roids.

grim
12-30-2012, 01:49 AM
I got a little different one. But seriously guys let up a bit. She had nothing to do with the porn crap and her house got raided, the entire area around here is being very hard on her. Her job gave her a hard time and even fired her, her son also has been dealing with the consequences and hes only 4. You guys know I have been straight up with you all from the beginning and will not feed you all bull shit. She is going through a lot and someone went on the board and harrased her, keep in mind she did not do it, even if Pyes did it knowingly I can assure you she had no hands in it but yet someone went ti the site calling her all kinds of crazy names and I saw it myself. Again if you want to hate Pyes thats one thing but lets not bash her. Also guys this is a guy she has been with a long time she is going to stand by him like many of us would hope our wives did if our homes got raided and we got taken away for Roids.
No issues with her, issues with her total lack of sense in restarting IJ.

Sorry might sound cold, but community security trumps that of the pedo's wives feelings...

If my wife risked the entire community I would hope someone would talk some sense into her...

go hard or go home
12-30-2012, 02:11 AM
Grim I agree but Im not certain she brought it back up, I will have to find out.

bdad
12-30-2012, 02:50 AM
This is not intended to piss anyone off just curious about something. Everyone keeps saying if you ordered from GDL you should be extra cautious. Now my question TEK was a sponsor on their also from which I recieved gifts. He was not a sponsor on their when all this went down, but should this be considered as a serious matter also?

ice water
12-30-2012, 02:53 AM
^^^

grim
12-30-2012, 02:54 AM
This is not intended to piss anyone off just raise curious about something. Everyone keeps saying if you ordered from GDL you should be extra cautious. Now my question TEK was a sponsor on their also from which I recieved gifts. He was not a sponsor on their when all this went down, but should this be considered as a serious matter also?
the huge difference is gdl basically ran ij, was very sloppy not even hiding his IP, already had huge security lapses, was in very close contact with pyes in ways other sponsors were not.

go hard or go home
12-30-2012, 03:01 AM
Yeah bro I would be worried about GDL but havent heard anything bad about tek. Hell Tek can send me some gifts lmao.

go hard or go home
12-30-2012, 03:08 AM
Fuck when I got banned from IJ a few weeks later I got a package in the mail, was not the usual mail women and the dude came to my door. Issue 1) Mail never comes to my door they are too fucking lazy, issue 2) I was not expecting anything at all. So I answer the door mail man says I got a package for @&$* @#%*&$% I said no such person resides here, he says oh really? I SAID YEP he says but yet they have the same last name? I said look I camt tell you but I do not know $%&# @#*&%#$ he then got visably upset and said ok what ever I guess you will sit here and BS me and leaves. Kicked is the name he used I only ever used with 2 sponsors Im sure you can guess one. Now Im not saying it was him but it was for sure odd.

luckyluke_80
12-30-2012, 03:13 AM
the huge difference is gdl basically ran ij, was very sloppy not even hiding his IP, already had huge security lapses, was in very close contact with pyes in ways other sponsors were not.

Yeah. I worry about this. Had some biz with GDL in past so I'm worried....I hope they just try to take him down and not me! I'm done on IJ for good!!!!!!

Flex4rce
12-30-2012, 03:36 AM
^^ As should everybody.. UNfortunate, but safety is #1..

Clearfocus
12-30-2012, 04:04 AM
Yeah. I worry about this. Had some biz with GDL in past so I'm worried....I hope they just try to take him down and not me! I'm done on IJ for good!!!!!!

Shouldn't really wish that on anyone for doing the same thing others are. GDL might not be well liked for good reason, but thats no reason to see him go down for something we all agree shouldn't be Illegal. At least I would think we all believe that.

swolio1
12-30-2012, 04:13 AM
Shouldn't really wish that on anyone for doing the same thing others are. GDL might not be well liked for good reason, but thats no reason to see him go down for something we all agree shouldn't be Illegal. At least I would think we all believe that.

Good post my man. I hope more people agree.

ram97!
12-30-2012, 04:51 AM
Had past dealings with gdl and no probs however i dont want to see him go down. As far as pyes wife i feel bad for her and their kid but i feel ij should be shutdown. We are talking about serikus shit here guys like lost jobs, marriages, ability to see kids etc if people go down. The fact that they took his computers scares the shit outta me im sure that it wouldnt have been hard to copy info and pass on to the propper federal agency for further investigation and thats the shit that should worry the whole community!

grim
12-30-2012, 05:08 AM
Had past dealings with gdl and no probs however i dont want to see him go down. As far as pyes wife i feel bad for her and their kid but i feel ij should be shutdown. We are talking about serikus shit here guys like lost jobs, marriages, ability to see kids etc if people go down. The fact that they took his computers scares the shit outta me im sure that it wouldnt have been hard to copy info and pass on to the propper federal agency for further investigation and thats the shit that should worry the whole community!
again its not even the computer. pyes used no encryption, no ip masking.
they have his net logs.....
every page he ever visited and god knows what else his isp logged.

go hard or go home
12-30-2012, 05:46 AM
You guys must have read what he said incorrectly. He said I hope theu just try to take him down, not I hope they take him down. He is not in any way, shape, or form implying he hopes someone gets popped he is simplh saying if he does get hit he hopes they dont come for him.

goodfella
12-30-2012, 08:28 AM
Fuck when I got banned from IJ a few weeks later I got a package in the mail, was not the usual mail women and the dude came to my door. Issue 1) Mail never comes to my door they are too fucking lazy, issue 2) I was not expecting anything at all. So I answer the door mail man says I got a package for @&$* @#%*&$% I said no such person resides here, he says oh really? I SAID YEP he says but yet they have the same last name? I said look I camt tell you but I do not know $%&# @#*&%#$ he then got visably upset and said ok what ever I guess you will sit here and BS me and leaves. Kicked is the name he used I only ever used with 2 sponsors Im sure you can guess one. Now Im not saying it was him but it was for sure odd.

^^Are you fucking serious??? Someone is after you man or was trying to pull something with you! Just a heads up!

luckyluke_80
12-30-2012, 12:37 PM
Shouldn't really wish that on anyone for doing the same thing others are. GDL might not be well liked for good reason, but thats no reason to see him go down for something we all agree shouldn't be Illegal. At least I would think we all believe that.

Yeah, I said that wrong. If he is acting the way he has and is putting everyone at risk then I think he is at his own fault for being caught. I understand sponsors lay their neck out everyday for providing things but safety needs to be number 1 and anyone who doesn't understand that is a huge security risk!

luckyluke_80
12-30-2012, 12:42 PM
You guys must have read what he said incorrectly. He said I hope theu just try to take him down, not I hope they take him down. He is not in any way, shape, or form implying he hopes someone gets popped he is simplh saying if he does get hit he hopes they dont come for him.

Thanks. GDL to be was a good guy when I had dealings with him. Always great service and gave a lot of freebie with his stuff. I'm really shocked that he would act like this is the heat is on him as much as people of said. I really hope NOTHING comes from this and everyone is safe.

go hard or go home
12-30-2012, 01:38 PM
Oh I know and thats why shortly after I dumped every fucking thing I had, over $900.00 worth of gear and never bought another thing. I was so fucking tight because I know nearly for a fact it was a controlled delivery and only 2 people that I ever bought from did I use that name, so one of 2 guys tried to fuck me. Ask Pain I sent him a PM about a week after it happened.
^^Are you fucking serious??? Someone is after you man or was trying to pull something with you! Just a heads up!

jinko
12-30-2012, 02:05 PM
This may sound dumb, but if Pyes is still on the run, why is the back ground on his pic the same as the guys that have been arrested?

go hard or go home
12-30-2012, 03:03 PM
Trust me he is still on the run.

pushiron
12-30-2012, 03:05 PM
Sucks to see guys that PEOPLE PRAISED have things like this happen

Clearfocus
12-30-2012, 03:42 PM
Trust me he is still on the run.

News report I seen said all were in custody. I think the video is still up in this thread. GHOGH would know more prolly, but why would the news say that?

martinright
12-30-2012, 04:22 PM
Thanks. GDL to be was a good guy when I had dealings with him. Always great service and gave a lot of freebie with his stuff. I'm really shocked that he would act like this is the heat is on him as much as people of said. I really hope NOTHING comes from this and everyone is safe.

GDL is a careless excuse for a source and put everybody at risk with his actions. He's a condescending scumbag and for the communities sake he needs just fade away before he gets busted.

What is even worse is the dumbass is now sourcing on a forum that is hosted on a US domestic server, worst of all he knows it and doesn't give a shit.

jinko
12-30-2012, 04:23 PM
I read something this morning that said 9 of 10 were in custody. The article was a few days old but it was all I could find.

ShortnWide
12-30-2012, 04:51 PM
Fuck when I got banned from IJ a few weeks later I got a package in the mail, was not the usual mail women and the dude came to my door. Issue 1) Mail never comes to my door they are too fucking lazy, issue 2) I was not expecting anything at all. So I answer the door mail man says I got a package for @&$* @#%*&$% I said no such person resides here, he says oh really? I SAID YEP he says but yet they have the same last name? I said look I camt tell you but I do not know $%&# @#*&%#$ he then got visably upset and said ok what ever I guess you will sit here and BS me and leaves. Kicked is the name he used I only ever used with 2 sponsors Im sure you can guess one. Now Im not saying it was him but it was for sure odd.



Now that's f-in odd. How much or how close we're you to the show?

go hard or go home
12-30-2012, 07:49 PM
I was not close to GDL at all lol trust me lol, I even kept Pain in the loop with the bull shit. Hell I personally got kicked off because GDL was not comfortable with me being there lol I have the PM to prove it. Also Pyes is still on the run as I said trust me he is, its on the news and I spoke with his wife.

ice water
12-31-2012, 01:41 AM
A buddy of mine who I referred to IJ is now tripping out on me, complete shitbag! Not my fault pyes was lacking security.. Told the dude If he bought from tek off the site thru email he has nothing to stress..

Honestly what's the deal Is tek compromised or the other sources on IJ?

I mainly posted in the anabolic forum about cycle questions/ injury forum.. Don't know why I feel so edgy about this bs

colochine
12-31-2012, 02:34 AM
Nothing to worry about TEK never did buisness via pm.

dontwork
12-31-2012, 03:03 AM
I don't think IJ is the concern unless you were doing transactions with a source through pm. The main issue is a source getting popped and his computer/email-archive getting compromised.

go hard or go home
12-31-2012, 05:57 AM
To be honest, I just spoke to a buddy who is a really good lawyer out in my area. His exact words, You have nothing to worry about even if they get our addresses and names, as it is only illegal if you are caught in the actual act of receiving illegal anabolic, or anything illegal for that matter. However he did say the threat lies in now they have the info and can better track packages to amd from your residence. His recomendation was keep clean home for a while get a P.O. box for anything going forward or another source of mailing. By the way he juices hahahahahahaja.

colochine
12-31-2012, 05:58 AM
So were not all going to jail? Phewwww that's good news!

gator-mclusky
12-31-2012, 06:01 AM
To be honest, I just spoke to a buddy who is a really good lawyer out in my area. His exact words, You have nothing to worry about even if they get our addresses and names, as it is only illegal if you are caught in the actual act of receiving illegal anabolic, or anything illegal for that matter. However he did say the threat lies in now they have the info and can better track packages to amd from your residence. His recomendation was keep clean home for a while get a P.O. box for anything going forward or another source of mailing. By the way he juices hahahahahahaja.
That seems to make sense. The labs involved have worries but I doubt the individuals who bought need to be very concerned. Always better safe than sorry of course. And yea, as stated, it COULD make it easier for pckges to be tracked from info on the computers of the Labs but like I said...i seriously doubt they are looking for joe weightlifter that wantd to put on a few lbs and get in shape.



gator

go hard or go home
12-31-2012, 06:02 AM
Lol.

Flex4rce
12-31-2012, 03:44 PM
Good to hear, maybe now this nagging thought will get outta the back of my head..

ShortnWide
12-31-2012, 04:39 PM
So were not all going to jail? Phewwww that's good news!


LMFAO.............

rocco-x
12-31-2012, 07:44 PM
this is good to read.i just posted in the thread about FUZO being banned because i didn't see anyone mention IJ being popped for this.i talked to a friend who heads the sex crimes division in our states largest city.she reported back to me that his wife,who claims he typed the word "teens" on a porn site and they came to his house,is false.he's been under investigation as well as 9-10 others for almost a full year.they already had his comp before the warrants were issued.he had a multitude of pics,some of local kids,on his comp yet the board stayed open most likely thru the help of his main man GDL putting everyone at risk.so glad i never used one source there.only board around that allowed open talk of aas and packing,t/a/ times,delivery methods...in the shoutbox.

this guy pyes is scum.whether you were frinds with him or notthe point is he was never what anyone thought.i apologize if i offended anyone in my last response to the FUZO being banned thread a few clicks up but what his wife is doing now,pyes wife,is mass pm'ng people trying to cover it up.you go on there now and it's a ghost town.IJ had to be by far thee most unsecured site ever.idc if he had 10 IP proxy hiders from east ga-bip bumblefuck to pakistan the point is if they want you they'll get you.plain and simple.i have many friends in LE and all tell me the same thing.doesn't matter how good you think you are at hiding your addy and what you're doing.if they want you they have the technology to find out within seconds who you're talking to by using keystroke patterns,ping back,tracing other peoples IP addys...you name it the feds have got it.

no site,idc who it is or what anyone says,is 100% fool proof and that safe.no one board can hide if the alphabet boys are onto you.they only go after the big fish or the ones that just openly and brazenly do business as if it's a slap to their faces.this whole community,not just any one particular board,is falling apart.if you're on that board you're a pos spy,on this one you're a "cool ass bro" but if you talk to this guy on that board then you're 2 faced and can't be trusted.in the last 2yrs alot of people have suprised me.from d-red to supposedly incrediblehawks death,mind you conveiniently at the same time as d-reds supposed bust,to ketusgo being barred from every board to a multitude of other shit.

the entire society as a whole veiws us as drug dealing,child endangering drug addicts...so shouldn't we all be in this together no matter what board you're on? who gives a shit what board owner gets whatever from his sources? does it affect your life in that much of depth?so many so called sources pop up,go bust or scammer,then just pop up under different name,particularly Dan Cote.this guy's been on every board around but no one believes he's infiltrated their board cause everyone's got the best board with the tightest security features.time for us to wake up as a whole.

why would it matter to anyone if i was friends with FUZO,Basskiller,AJDOS,ketsugo or any other member?if they ain't fuckin me or paying my gear bill then so what,and the same goes for them too.i've already expressed my opinions about it on other boards...who i'm friends with or talk to shouldn't affect the other person at all.i dunno,just seems like in the last 3-4yrs we're devolving instead of evolving into a better tight knit group.can't have an opinion or you get banned.if you're on a different board or defend a certain member you get banned.if you speak your mind you get either banned or ostracized from the smaller part of the community.it's only these smal private boards i see this on.not boards like OLM,Ghostgym and a few select others.

their main concern is outting scammers,teaching the noobs and just talking about shit in general.no one there can give 2 fucks if you're licking the balls of someone they don't like,just don't bring the drama to that board.yet we seem to revel in the pain or misforunes of others...not the community i was introduced to in 07 by a good group of solid vets from the old Meso days,some not here with us anymore.my point is...why give a fuck what member "A" is doing on member "C's" board if he's not talking about what goes on on any other board?

Flex4rce
12-31-2012, 10:19 PM
^^^ Hells yeah bro.. Glad you put that out there, you hit the nail on the head.

grim
01-01-2013, 03:31 AM
i agree with much of the above but disagree strongly in areas of security issues from board to board in numerous respects.
most admins dont even give a fuk about security,

Flex4rce
01-01-2013, 03:50 AM
I can't comment on security at all, I have hardly any knowledge in the tech world, so I have to listen to the people I know and put my trust in the Admin and the reviews of their boards.

gator-mclusky
01-01-2013, 04:23 AM
It's true that if they want someone, they will get them. I remember ORS Security on some sites put together by guys that are all busted. All that did was bring the spot light on the sites almost daring LE to take a closer look. If anyone thinks that secure emails arent monitored by the Govt then theyre crazy as well.
And peeps get judged by the company they keep. I Modded on a couple boards that the peeps were just plain evil. Im serious. No thought about the members at all!!!!!!!!! And one of the guys has had a HUGE following for yrs and got busted, ratted, came back to the community and easily told his sheeple he wasnt busted....all was hunky dorey. That wasnt the case and he got busted several months ago AGAIN! I think he is actually still on one board. My point is....the old saying "Birds of a feather" holds true. thats why I didnt like Dred and several others. And either they turned scammer or they got busted. They hated me.......Oh yea...they hated me because I spoke the truth about em. I always stand for this community of iron that I love. As for Basskiller......never heard anything bad about Basskiller. I respect Bass. Hate to lump him in there with those others mentioned above.
Are all emails looked at? No but they could be easily with the stroke of a few keys. It's Assholes like Pyes with this disgusting shit and peeps dealing in Recs that always fukks the community. I dont believe the Gov gives to much of a shit about gear an peeps wanting to get bigger. They have to do something every few yrs to show theyre doing something....but if they wanted, they have the technology to make life very difficult for plain joes wanting to build their bodys.

gator

grim
01-01-2013, 04:53 AM
ORS wasnt any real security, it was a movement...

nothing more....

gator-mclusky
01-01-2013, 07:11 AM
Exactly. Ridiculous. They labeled it security.

gtr

PAiN
01-01-2013, 07:02 PM
i agree with much of the above but disagree strongly in areas of security issues from board to board in numerous respects.
most admins dont even give a fuk about security,

I agree that's why we do whatever we can here to keep this place safe.

grim
01-01-2013, 07:27 PM
I agree that's why we do whatever we can here to keep this place safe.

hey u @ least let me talk about it, most admins wont even do that! ;)

rocco-x
01-01-2013, 08:11 PM
hey u @ least let me talk about it, most admins wont even do that! ;)lmao...how true.so many times i got my status removed on IL cause d-douche would have temper tantrums over my opinions which were more like solid truth.now that he's gone,and busted from what i hear,it's funny how IH suddenly dies? yet you question that on their boards and it's bye-bye...cracks my spaghetti eating ass up,lol...

grim
01-02-2013, 01:05 AM
lmao...how true.so many times i got my status removed on IL cause d-douche would have temper tantrums over my opinions which were more like solid truth.now that he's gone,and busted from what i hear,it's funny how IH suddenly dies? yet you question that on their boards and it's bye-bye...cracks my spaghetti eating ass up,lol...
he made me miserable user for daring to speak of security...

bionic redneck
01-02-2013, 02:00 AM
rocco and gator are good ppl....what they are sayin bout what has happened on dreds boards is the truth... and we do need to come together as a whole.... we all have similar goals... i dont see why we cant get along

heftyman
01-02-2013, 02:14 AM
crazy shit, they aren't stuped, even though we pretend the feds are.

grim
01-02-2013, 04:56 AM
crazy shit, they aren't stuped, even though we pretend the feds are.

much of the community is being just that though, stupid and careless.

bbcoach
01-03-2013, 01:57 AM
thats some crazy shit.. I hope nothing else comes from all this!

grim
01-03-2013, 02:47 AM
thats some crazy shit.. I hope nothing else comes from all this!
with ppl being stupid id be shocked if something doesnt..

gator-mclusky
01-03-2013, 03:01 AM
Well, this is a first having a damned Pedophile in our midst as an Admin and owner. I would think that peeps he had regular communication with computer wise will be under the microscope .In my 13 yrs on the boards...this surely is a first! Pisses me off!!!!!!!!

gator

IronFox
01-03-2013, 01:25 PM
Well, this is a first having a damned Pedophile in our midst as an Admin and owner. I would think that peeps he had regular communication with computer wise will be under the microscope .In my 13 yrs on the boards...this surely is a first! Pisses me off!!!!!!!!

gator

That's for damn sure and agree 100% gator. We don't need trash like that in the community at all

Rooroo
01-03-2013, 04:01 PM
OMG Gator hit it on the head!! Thank goodness this is the exception and not the rule! I know we have some rough ones in our community and lots of perverts but that isn't in the same fuckin galaxy as child/baby porn!!!
In my eyes there isn't a worse crime and I think most would agree with me! I have seen the destruction this causes to the 100% absolute innocent !!! I don't go around wishing le and everything that comes with them but this is different and I hope if he's guilty of this he gets the maximum !!

alfrazior
01-03-2013, 04:04 PM
lol rocco and I were PM'ing / shoutboxing on IJ. I logged in (barely ever did on that board to begin with) only because I received that ridiculous mass PM notification then did some digging with rocco's assistance.

sick fuck. i won't bash anyone but the difference between the PM and the news stories is huge. hugeeeeeeeeee.

My technological opinion.. all of these source board sites are logged by big brother daily. writing anything out in the open is absurd to me, and PM's are just a way to get yourself in future trouble.. but that being said, if you have a personal stash i wouldn't lose *too* much sleep over it. yes every once in a while LE makes an example out of someone. ORD was huge, and took years to plan, so I can almost assure you if IJ stems another ORD it won't be for a very long time.

LE was prepared to go after child porn and offenders. it's very unfortunate that a board owner, who's very close with a lose cannon sponsor, was involved in the bust and will eventually open a new can of worms. but for the time being, that isn't the subject at hand. i wouldn't even be writing about it, but the fact that i had no contact with anyone well, i'd be pretty useless to question.

IronFox
01-03-2013, 04:53 PM
What has the community come to these days? Seems there's nothing but busts scams and BS and rogue board owners/admins

grim
01-03-2013, 08:23 PM
What has the community come to these days? Seems there's nothing but busts scams and BS and rogue board owners/admins
and members who blindly follow, even when warned and shown proof...

martinright
01-03-2013, 09:55 PM
HOLY SHIT HAS THIS THING MUSHROOMED!! LOOK WHAT HAPPENED TODAY....All part of this bust, Now tell me you feel safe if you were on IJ.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/01/03/hundreds-arrested-in-ice-child-exploitation-probe/?test=latestnews

Camzilla
01-03-2013, 10:06 PM
How are you sure that these are related?
Not a dick question, just asking. This one is headed by ICE, and primarily seems focused on west coast (although it does say 19 states so....) and Mexico. Always great news when LE scores against these sick fuks. But Um fairly certain that at any given time most every alphabet agency has a team working an operation to bust pedophiles, at least I pray they do.
If theyre connected its no biggy for me, just didnt make sense to me that a state agency on one coast and a fed agency on another were working the same op and the feds didnt try to take cred for the PA busts.
Again Martin, not trying to be a dick, just seems odd. But I sure seen stranger chit.

Diesnt change the fact that IJ should not be up right now, or ever again for that matter.

ram97!
01-03-2013, 10:09 PM
I just read the story i dont see were it connects the two investigations or what it has too do with ij. Not trying to start probs but i dont see the connection.

TheGreatWhiteTruth
01-04-2013, 02:31 AM
I just read the story i dont see were it connects the two investigations or what it has too do with ij. Not trying to start probs but i dont see the connection.

You guys mean this one right?


HOLY SHIT HAS THIS THING MUSHROOMED!! LOOK WHAT HAPPENED TODAY....All part of this bust, Now tell me you feel safe if you were on IJ.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/01/03/hundreds-arrested-in-ice-child-exploitation-probe/?test=latestnews

I don't see it either.

IronFox
01-04-2013, 02:51 AM
I just read the story i dont see were it connects the two investigations or what it has too do with ij. Not trying to start probs but i dont see the connection.

They are two totally different operations with the same basic goal..to catch predators

Camzilla
01-04-2013, 02:56 AM
They are two totally different operations with the same basic goal..to catch predators

And I pray they do. I have children and many nieces and nephews. Pedophiles are the worst kind of filth.

1tuffcookie
01-04-2013, 04:03 PM
I'm with ya CAM. I think the majority of BOP bro's have children and feel the same way. Thank GOD that the people in prisons don't take kindly to child molesters. They will all get what they diserve.

ram97!
01-04-2013, 07:10 PM
I too have kids and think that child predators are sick fucks. I think they all should be fed to sharks while still alive but hey thats just me. I think its great thst le does the online stings to catch these bastards however in the above linked story i see no connection to aas ij or pyes for that matter unless i missed something.....

grim
01-04-2013, 07:18 PM
they aren't going to bring up aas even with pyes as it will be an ongoing investigation...

Camzilla
01-04-2013, 07:26 PM
Agree. I suspect that there is not much if anything to start rounding folks up that was on pyes computer. Maybe bad stuff for him, possibly including aas related, but not for most IJ members. That being said, The red carpet has just been laid out for le to start another type of investigation. They likely will not take immediate action on the intel, but they damn sure will be exploring it further from here on out. If you are going back there, you are likely putting yourself in grave danger. They most certainly know about ij and are most certainly watching it very closely.

I have zero experience in this shit, this is simply my country boy mind thinking of what I would do if I were the fuzz. This is a no shit plot from ncis, law an order,....

There was bad things happening at "A". So if you were le would you be watching "A" if you got wind of it?

Hate to dumb it down so far, just how my brain works folks, no dis intended.

go hard or go home
01-04-2013, 11:41 PM
Man this thread has gotten huge. I also highly doubt the other news story is connected as the one Pyes was involved with was all local sickos from this immediate area even the poor kids these fucks targeted were from the immediate area.

hozer
01-07-2013, 08:16 PM
thanks for the info

go hard or go home
01-14-2013, 04:00 AM
Well Pyes has made the news again. The local Crime Alert has just issued a $5,000.00 reward on him, if he is local this where friends are no longer friends and most family will give you up.

gator-mclusky
01-14-2013, 05:16 AM
It's a matter of time now.

gtr

315 BEAST
01-14-2013, 05:34 AM
Damn this thread got huge. I still can't believe this story it's un fucking real how sick some people are

grim
01-14-2013, 08:30 PM
1235how long u think?...

IronFox
01-15-2013, 01:46 AM
1235how long u think?...

Perhaps a few days and if he's contacted anyone in the interim most likely that'll leave a trail for the authorities to catch him

grim
01-16-2013, 02:14 AM
i mean once he caught how long til he sings...

gator-mclusky
01-16-2013, 04:49 AM
Yea, he will sing but they wont trim much time for Cho Mos. But for him, Im sure he would rat the whole community for 72 hrs off his sentence!

gtr

Hntd
01-16-2013, 11:11 PM
Yea, he will sing but they wont trim much time for Cho Mos. But for him, Im sure he would rat the whole community for 72 hrs off his sentence!

gtr

You guys act like they are questioning him regarding AAS, they have enough to put him away for a long time. Chances are good they aren't horribly interested in IJ...yet.