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maxmuscle1
04-25-2020, 03:59 PM
ORIGINAL ECA STACK 411:
[The difference between natural ephedra and ephedrine hcl.....and why the fat burners from the old days worked so much better]
Tablets or pills equaled this combination:
{25mg ephedrine alkaloid, 200mg caffeine, 325 mg aspirin} combination (ECA) induces a thermogenic response, which excites the nervous system, elevates heart rate, increases blood pressure, and raises metabolism. The heat generated by this thermogenic response results increased ability to transform fatty acids stored in fat cells into energy released from the body.* Ephedrine alkaloids also work like other amphetamines in terms of decreasing a person’s appetite.**ECA supplements linked with healthy eating habits and moderate exercise should help reduce body fat and control the appetite, resulting in successful weight loss.
The results conclude that not only is weight loss possible, subjects can lose more fat and less muscle. The weight loss has been attributed to thermogenic and lipolytic effects which, in combination with the central nervous system stimulating effects, have also resulted in its use as an ergogenic aid. The {ephedrine} half-life is approximately 3 to 6 hours. the primary reason for combining the 2 drugs is to potentiate the effects of the ephedrine. Ephedrine exerts its thermogenic effects via catecholamine release. The increased catecholamine release after ephedrine ingestion is subjected to negative feedback systems, which then tend to inhibit catecholamine release and actions. These negative feedback systems include adenosine and prostaglandin release in the synaptic junction and elevated phosphodiesterase enzyme activity, which results in degradation of cyclic adenosine monophosphate (cAMP) Caffeine interferes with this negative feedback mechanism by inhibiting both adenosine and phosphodiesterase activity and preventing degradation of cAMP. The combination of ephedrine and caffeine improved cycling time to exhaustion by *64% over a placebo condition.
People ask, “Why the Aspirin?” :
Aspirin has a similar effect via its inhibition of prostaglandin synthesis. Thus, it is conceivable that either of these mechanisms could potentiate the thermogenic effects of ephedrine. The original studies were with 325mg, which in my opinion is quite a bit if using 2-3x per day. Most use 81 mg baby aspirin.
**{READ: REALIZE EPHEDRA AND EPHEDRINE HCL are completely different. Keep that in mind! One is synthetically made and the other is from a plant, like Ma Huang.**}
The FDA has proposed to limit the allowed dose of ephedrine to 8 mg per serving or 24 mg per day. 110 mg extract standardized to 8% ephedra alkaloids, equivalent to 5 mg ephedrine. It takes 334 mg Ma Huang extract (standardized @ 8% = 20 mg ephedrine alkaloids). Most products on the market contain Ephedra powder from natural sources. The legal fat burner products containing 24mg ephedra. Using the scientific equation above; to get the original equivalent of 25mg ephedrine hcl per serving/pill, you would need 550 mg of standardized 8% ephedrine alkaloids per serving/pill! That would take 22 servings/pills of the legal, natural ephedra products in the stores and online for just one 25mg ephedrine hcl equivalent like Bronkaid or a Primatene Tablet. This is the reason none of the ECA type formulas work that are sold.
The sale of ephedra alkaloid-containing dietary supplements remains illegal in the United States May 14, 2007 -Sales of ephedrine hcl/pseudoephedrine hcl vary from state to state. The Government made ephedra supplements sold only contain 8mg/24mg per day, which is 21 times less than the true effective fat burning part of the trifecta- E.C.A [emoji107] ! Of course we all know how to make the combination ourselves.

Max [emoji123][emoji123]

rollingwinter
04-26-2020, 11:50 AM
I really miss being able to import ephedrine hcl from Gorilla Jack.... fucking meth heads.

maxmuscle1
04-26-2020, 07:36 PM
I really miss being able to import ephedrine hcl from Gorilla Jack.... fucking meth heads.

Canada! Hate that they take something away that can be therapeutic. People will abuse anything! Could you imagine if they made Diet Coke Illegal?? We’d have females in office shootings everywhere! Lol [emoji13]

Max

maxmuscle1
05-22-2020, 11:44 AM
ORIGINAL ECA STACK 411:
[The difference between natural ephedra and ephedrine hcl.....and why the fat burners from the old days worked so much better]
Tablets or pills equaled this combination:
{25mg ephedrine alkaloid, 200mg caffeine, 325 mg aspirin} combination (ECA) induces a thermogenic response, which excites the nervous system, elevates heart rate, increases blood pressure, and raises metabolism. The heat generated by this thermogenic response results increased ability to transform fatty acids stored in fat cells into energy released from the body.* Ephedrine alkaloids also work like other amphetamines in terms of decreasing a person’s appetite.**ECA supplements linked with healthy eating habits and moderate exercise should help reduce body fat and control the appetite, resulting in successful weight loss.
The results conclude that not only is weight loss possible, subjects can lose more fat and less muscle. The weight loss has been attributed to thermogenic and lipolytic effects which, in combination with the central nervous system stimulating effects, have also resulted in its use as an ergogenic aid. The {ephedrine} half-life is approximately 3 to 6 hours. the primary reason for combining the 2 drugs is to potentiate the effects of the ephedrine. Ephedrine exerts its thermogenic effects via catecholamine release. The increased catecholamine release after ephedrine ingestion is subjected to negative feedback systems, which then tend to inhibit catecholamine release and actions. These negative feedback systems include adenosine and prostaglandin release in the synaptic junction and elevated phosphodiesterase enzyme activity, which results in degradation of cyclic adenosine monophosphate (cAMP) Caffeine interferes with this negative feedback mechanism by inhibiting both adenosine and phosphodiesterase activity and preventing degradation of cAMP. The combination of ephedrine and caffeine improved cycling time to exhaustion by *64% over a placebo condition.
People ask, “Why the Aspirin?” :
Aspirin has a similar effect via its inhibition of prostaglandin synthesis. Thus, it is conceivable that either of these mechanisms could potentiate the thermogenic effects of ephedrine. The original studies were with 325mg, which in my opinion is quite a bit if using 2-3x per day. Most use 81 mg baby aspirin.
**{READ: REALIZE EPHEDRA AND EPHEDRINE HCL are completely different. Keep that in mind! One is synthetically made and the other is from a plant, like Ma Huang.**}
The FDA has proposed to limit the allowed dose of ephedrine to 8 mg per serving or 24 mg per day. 110 mg extract standardized to 8% ephedra alkaloids, equivalent to 5 mg ephedrine. It takes 334 mg Ma Huang extract (standardized @ 8% = 20 mg ephedrine alkaloids). Most products on the market contain Ephedra powder from natural sources. The legal fat burner products containing 24mg ephedra. Using the scientific equation above; to get the original equivalent of 25mg ephedrine hcl per serving/pill, you would need 550 mg of standardized 8% ephedrine alkaloids per serving/pill! That would take 22 servings/pills of the legal, natural ephedra products in the stores and online for just one 25mg ephedrine hcl equivalent like Bronkaid or a Primatene Tablet. This is the reason none of the ECA type formulas work that are sold.
The sale of ephedra alkaloid-containing dietary supplements remains illegal in the United States May 14, 2007 -Sales of ephedrine hcl/pseudoephedrine hcl vary from state to state. The Government made ephedra supplements sold only contain 8mg/24mg per day, which is 21 times less than the true effective fat burning part of the trifecta- E.C.A [emoji107] ! Of course we all know how to make the combination ourselves.

Max [emoji123][emoji123]

Bump for fat burning and weight loss!!

Max