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Brassmonkey
07-04-2020, 12:51 AM
I am just coming to the end of my first proper cycle and I am trying to make sense of these bloods..

I had full blood work prior to running test and deca and should have done bloods half way through but given the current situation I just kept going.. now the cycle went well, energy was up for the most part then I one point I felt like I was crashing my E2 so I backed off on the AI. Apart from that and my life style and routine slipping a little towards the end I have been feeling quite happy about it and have leaned off a bit and gained a bit.

i don’t know how to measure or guess my BF but I know I want it lower. Currently I am 109kg at 6’2”, when I started the cycle I was around 103kg.

before...

59207


and at the end...
59208


What levels should I have been aiming for? What is optimal? Should I have used more E2? Less T?

Liftpower23
07-04-2020, 01:05 AM
What compounds and doses did you run? What AI and dose?

chadmack282
07-04-2020, 01:25 AM
to me u definately need an AI, my face & neck chest back would have Big acne all over

thebear
07-04-2020, 01:50 AM
What was your cycle?
How long?

Makes sense with the high T, free T, e2 etc.

Are you doing a pct? It def needs to include asin to get that e2 down ASAP.

Brassmonkey
07-05-2020, 02:13 AM
Cycle was 1/2 g of Test C or T Blend (used C for first 6 weeks) and .3 Deca. .25 Armosin ED.

Brassmonkey
07-05-2020, 02:14 AM
I had started to get acne but not much.

Brassmonkey
07-05-2020, 02:18 AM
500mg T and 300 Deca .25 a day Aromasin ( but I stopped it after week 8, didn’t feel I needed it and felt like my E2 was crashing). Ran like that for 13 weeks.

chadmack282
07-05-2020, 02:19 AM
Cycle was 1/2 g of Test C or T Blend (used C for first 6 weeks) and .3 Deca. .25 Armosin ED.

0.25 aromosin ?

Brassmonkey
07-05-2020, 02:26 AM
What was your cycle?
How long?

Makes sense with the high T, free T, e2 etc.

Are you doing a pct? It def needs to include asin to get that e2 down ASAP.

I have decided to cruise T400 blend and .50 Aromasin for 4 weeks the taper down the T (I know it’s long acting esters but I think I should) while still taking AI then start Pct

Brassmonkey
07-05-2020, 02:29 AM
0.25 aromosin ?


.20mg Aromasin (tablet) end of day.

chadmack282
07-05-2020, 04:29 AM
.20mg Aromasin (tablet) end of day.

how r u measuring that small small amount of aromisin?
most aromisin tabs that i have seen r either 12.5 or 25mg.

Mattymoo
07-05-2020, 04:42 AM
Im confused about your Aromasin dosage
How many mg are your tablets?

Liftpower23
07-05-2020, 12:17 PM
Since you were on a Nandrolone, there's a chance your estrogen reading is not accurate. NPP & Deca can (and do for me) give a false high on the ECLIA method. You have to get an Ultrasensitive Estradiol test LC/MC...

bigpapapumpaf
07-05-2020, 12:31 PM
Why did you not test prolactin in test #2? I'm also guessing test #1 came sometime after another cycle, so those results are low on test and LH.

You need caber to counter effect the deca which is causing your prolactin and probably estrogen to go up. Aromasin will do nothing for prolactin. Prolactin will spike estrogen in a manner that aromasin will not help.

Run 12.5 mg aromasin E2D or E3D along with .5mg caber 2x week and it should get things back in order. Your acne will clear up too. This is for legit ****** AI, not liquid. If you were using liquid aromasin before, all bets are off because most of iit is junk.

BPP

Brassmonkey
07-05-2020, 12:36 PM
Im confused about your Aromasin dosage
How many mg are your tablets?

20mg tabs.

Brassmonkey
07-05-2020, 12:37 PM
My bad it’s 20mg tabs not .20mg ��

Brassmonkey
07-05-2020, 12:46 PM
Why did you not test prolactin in test #2? I'm also guessing test #1 came sometime after another cycle, so those results are low on test and LH.

You need caber to counter effect the deca which is causing your prolactin and probably estrogen to go up. Aromasin will do nothing for prolactin. Prolactin will spike estrogen in a manner that aromasin will not help.

Run 12.5 mg aromasin E2D or E3D along with .5mg caber 2x week and it should get things back in order. Your acne will clear up too. This is for legit ****** AI, not liquid. If you were using liquid aromasin before, all bets are off because most of iit is junk.

BPP

Your correct, the first was done a couple months after I had tried out some orals (I probably should have stayed off longer before running again).

I have stopped the deca now and as I have some Test400 and some Aromasin left I was going to cruise the T for 4 weeks then stop the T then 2 weeks after that run my pct?

Would running long with T give my E2 levels chance to lower?