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Liftpower23
07-18-2020, 07:24 PM
Fill me in guys... I've heard everything from Ace is more powerful per mg, Enanthate sides are WAYYY worse, Ace sides are way worse, it's the same exact drug just different esters, they are 2 totally different drugs... etc etc

I wanna hear from experienced users of both.

I have only used Ace from micro dosing, to 500mg/wk. In a future cycle I'd like to take 600-800mg/wk so the Enanthate ester looks attractive considering the volume of dosing. But all this conflicting information is crazy... I look forward to seeing your replies

Trensational
07-18-2020, 10:15 PM
I think people find it easier to keep bloods stable with ace which helps with sides and overall results. But this could probably be countered by injecting enanthate every 2 days. The only other reason ace is always favoured is so when you start having those urges to cheat on your wife with an amputee tranny you can get it out of your system in days. Hahaha

Razorbak
07-18-2020, 10:35 PM
For me its just personal preference. I am one of the lucky ones who doesnt get bad sides on tren. A short fuse but overtime I have learned how to control it. The good thing about ace is if the sides do start to get too bad you can stop it and it will be out of your system fairly quickly. The good thing about tren E less frequent injections and hardly any pip. Just my $.02

Riggs
07-19-2020, 10:07 AM
Same exact hormone.

Tren Ace = @ 83mg of actual Tren per 100mg
Tren E = @69mg of actual Tren per 100mg

1st time user never use E. If you get skull fucked even Ace won't get out quick enough. Sides won't subside until @ 5 - 7ish days whereas E can take 2 weeks or more....for sides to cleave off.

Here's a good thread I threw up about Tren a yr or so back. 11,000 views/465 replies. Lots of real life experiences posted by tons of members.

FUCK'N TREN - LET'S TALK TREN - ALL THINGS TREN (https://brotherhood.is/anabolic-steroid-discussion/64324-fuckn-tren-talk-tren-tren.html)

Gearsman74
07-19-2020, 01:07 PM
Less frequent injections with Tren E and Tren A gets expensive after a while. Just my 2cc's.

bigpapapumpaf
07-19-2020, 03:55 PM
Tren ace treats me better that tren eth BUT tren hex is the best and you left that one out of the equation. Tren eth give me low blood sugar like feelings within a few weeks. Tren ace sides are manageable but daily pinning is BS.

BPP

maxmuscle1
07-19-2020, 04:08 PM
Tren ace treats me better that tren eth BUT tren hex is the best and you left that one out of the equation. Tren eth give me low blood sugar like feelings within a few weeks. Tren ace sides are manageable but daily pinning is BS.

BPP

Hex is the stuff[emoji1690][emoji123]

Max

Sustnuts
07-20-2020, 12:36 AM
I get no tren cough with Enth but ace kills me

mightymouse84
07-21-2020, 12:15 PM
What's the half life of tren hex? It is certainly intriguing and something I'd consider as long as I don't need to pin more than 3x/week.

maxmuscle1
07-21-2020, 02:47 PM
What's the half life of tren hex? It is certainly intriguing and something I'd consider as long as I don't need to pin more than 3x/week.

It is close to two weeks. Longer than Enanthate.

Max

mightymouse84
07-21-2020, 03:33 PM
It is close to two weeks. Longer than Enanthate.

Max

So what would the benefit be in using hex over Enanthate? I imagine I'd still pin 2x/week

maxmuscle1
07-21-2020, 03:49 PM
So what would the benefit be in using hex over Enanthate? I imagine I'd still pin 2x/week

It is a personal preference. You have to consider that tren hex is quite expensive but I pick it everytime over the other. I’ll repost one of my older posts just for information[emoji3593]

PARA/TREN HEX EXTENDED INFO:
Trenbolone Hexahydrobenzylcarbonate represents the dominant large ester based Trenbolone compound on the market. It was first released by the France based Negma Laboratories in the late 1960’s under the trade name Parabolan. This represents the first and only Trenbolone hormone to ever exist in human grade form. Parabolan was prescribed for many years in cases of malnutrition, which will make a lot of sense as we dive into the compound. It was also prescribed to treat osteoporosis in some cases, as well as in the treatment of cachexia.

Parabolan also has the ability to greatly increase red blood cell count and IGF-1 output. The increased red blood cell count is important as red blood cells are responsible for carrying oxygen to and through the blood. This not only promotes greater muscular endurance, but again revs up the total anabolic activity. When it comes to anabolic activity, this is precisely why the increased presence of IGF-1 is important. IGF-1 is a powerfully potent anabolic hormone that affects nearly every cell in the human body. This simple hormone also plays a tremendous role on our body’s recovery process.

The effects of Parabolan do not end with cutting and mass promotion. This steroid will promote enhanced muscular endurance better than most steroids. It will also dramatically improve the individual’s overall rate of recovery. The individual will not tire out as fast and he will recover from hard, intense exercise or activity at an accelerated rate. Due to the powerful androgenic activity, the individual will find this steroid also greatly promotes increases in strength. In fact, some may even notice a slight increase during a cutting phase. Of course, most all will find strength diminishes to a degree when cutting, but more of it will be protected when dieting than would be otherwise. Due to these effects of Paraplex, enhanced endurance, recovery and strength, it can be a fantastic steroid for athletic performance. However, some individuals report decreases in cardiovascular endurance. However, it WILL NOT affect everyone this way. Many will simply enjoy the positive effects of Paraplex.

My review:
The effects of Parabolan do not end with cutting and mass promotion. This steroid will promote enhanced muscular endurance better than most steroids. It will also dramatically improve the individual’s overall rate of recovery. The individual will not tire out as fast and he will recover from hard, intense exercise or activity at an accelerated rate. Due to the powerful androgenic activity, the individual will find this steroid also greatly promotes increases in strength. In fact, some may even notice a slight increase during a cutting phase. Of course, most all will find strength diminishes to a degree when cutting, but more of it will be protected when dieting than would be otherwise. Due to these effects of Paraplex, enhanced endurance, recovery and strength, it can be a fantastic steroid for athletic performance. However, some individuals report decreases in cardiovascular endurance. However, it WILL NOT affect everyone this way. Many will simply enjoy the positive effects of Paraplex.

Tren hex has the ability to allow the body to process the nutrients in food far more efficiently making fats, carbohydrates and protein much more valuable gram for gram. It can also directly influence the burning of fat via its ability to bind with the androgen receptor. The net result is a vastly increased fat burning rate while simultaneously increasing muscle. The anabolic activity with Parabolan is also enhanced by the increased rate of red blood cell circulation. The high red blood cell count means that more oxygen is delivered to the body, helping to improve endurance. This allows for longer and more intense training and faster recovery. Most people begin at around 152-220mg per week, very significant benefits can be seen at this dosage, particularly when the right training and diet regime is adhered to at the same time. More experienced users of this drug may take 152-228/300mg per week. A lot of guys want to run it but have not. It’s a very versatile compound ester of trenbolone and personally my favorite.

Tren Hex with such compounds as Winstrol, Primobolan, Anavar and Masteron (to name a few) when used for cutting purposes

Tren Hex or Parabolan is also used for bulking, it is often stacked with Dianabol or Anadrol, Deca-Durabolin as well as other compounds. The purpose of these combinations is to bulk up and gain mass rather than obtain the dry, hard look. But as you can see, Tren Hex is so versatile that it can be used to achieve both goals.

Max

Tren Hex: 2.0
The brand name and trade name for this anabolic steroid is called Parabolan. It is a longer acting ester of trenbolone than the acetate version. Trenbolone acetate is the faster ester and is the most popular among bodybuilders. There is a very big difference in the half-life of these two trenbolone esters. The Hexahydrobenzylcarbonate ester has the half-life of close to two weeks and the Acetate ester half-life is only 2-3 days. Trenbolone, no matter the ester is known as the most powerful anabolic steroid available today.

Parabolan Effects:
This steroid is a derivative of nandrolone - if you look at the molecular structure of substances, it will be similar. But nandrolone is inferior to trenbolone in a number of parameters. For example, trenbolone has a very high resistance to metabolism in the body, therefore making it have a much better anabolic effect. Also, it will not convert into estrogen. Trenbolone is totally resistant to aromatization, unlike nandrolone which is not.
T-Hex... is it the most powerful steroid?
Trenbolone Hex and many other injectable steroids are in high demand in bodybuilding, powerlifting, crossfit, and other sports. However, boxers are not in a hurry to use Trenbolone Hexahydrobenzylcarbonate, because it significantly increases muscle mass. For a two-month cycle, an athlete can gain 15 to 20 pounds, and in boxing the weight category is very critical.
But in bodybuilding the athlete will use trenbolone to get all the benefits that this powerful steroid provides. It is possible in a short period of time to gain muscle mass of excellent quality. In this case, without a set of adipose tissue, because the drug is not prone to water retention or bloating. Powerlifters and other sport athletes receive from this steroid a significant increase in power indicators. At the same time, the mass is growing, but “pure”. Tren-Hex is an esterfied version of Trenbolone which is released more slowly in the body. This eliminates the need for more frequent injections. The half-life of Tren-Hex is approximately 14 days. Those bodybuilders, powerlifters and athletes who enter drug tested competitions/contests should be aware that at least five weeks is needed to completely clear Tren-Hex from the system.

Trenbolone may not aromatize. But it has a very strong affinity to progestin and can still stimulate the estrogen receptor and cause gyno. However, there’s an easy workaround. Just keep cabergoline handy and use it if you notice the slightest symptom of gynecomastia while you are on Tren. Most take .5mg two times per week.
Trenbolone can trash your lipids. It will increase total cholesterol and LDL while reducing HDL greatly. A lot of users seem to take 3-5 grams of fish oils daily to try to combat this. Organ and liver protection is a must while using any *Trenbolone Ester.

The benefits from Tren-Hex will also be amazing. Trenbolone is said to promote muscle hardness and definition and will increase vascularity in those who are serious about their physical condition. Known for it’s drying effect, Tren-Hex will make the skin appear thinner and therefore muscles will look more pronounced and chiseled, especially when bodyfat is very low. Tren-Hex is so powerful that you can utilize it for both a bulking and cutting phase. For bodybuilders and athletes in the off-season or who are considering a bulking cycle, Tren-Hex can be used but if done so on its own, won’t provide the best results. Stack this steroid with other bulking agents and it will consolidate your gains, harden muscles and increase strength. Another added bonus of using Tren-Hex in a bulking phase is that it will provide a greater capacity for more intense workouts. When adding Tren-Hex to a bulking stack, the gains you see will be all clean gains with as little fat as possible. The good news when considering a cutting cycle is that you can use Tren-Hex on its own and still get good results. When cutting, we are already depriving the body of the extra calories so while burning fat, Tren-Hex will work to burn more fat, pump up your metabolism and promote extreme leanness as well as muscle shape and definition. Tren-Hex can also protect your muscles from atrophy which tends to occur when we are calorie deficient while still training vigorously. Some actually say that you can combine any two steroids together and not get the same results that you would from cycling with Tren-Hex. Recovery time will also be quicker if using Tren-Hex in your cutting cycle. Trenbolone will keep your strength up when you are working to cut the last bit of fat on your body. Bodybuilders have stacked Tren-Hex with Primobolan, Masteron and Winstrol when running cutting cycles while using Dianabol and Anadrol with Tren-Hex for bulking cycles.
Edit: IME : always stack and I rarely ever need over 300mg. Usually 200-300 split dose.

Riggs
07-21-2020, 04:03 PM
So what would the benefit be in using hex over Enanthate? I imagine I'd still pin 2x/week

Parabolan (Tren Hex) was approved for human use due to its long full elimination period off setting human error with the need of more frequent injections. Dr's know that an EOD pin schedule will lead to patients forgetting to pin and as a result blood plasma levels will unnecessarily fluctuate.

The issue I see with Hex is finding a Source who guarantees they have legit Hex and not E being sold to them as Hex. This is VERY common. For this reason I go with E. Hex is the same hormone as Ace/base/Enanth. The cleave off of the ester and release time in to the blood is the only difference.

Guys complain about the pinning schedule of Ace but I don't mind a .4cc (40mg) pin ED. I hit lean muscles and use a 25g 5/8 pin. E hits me like a freight train @ week 8 ish. I did however add E at 200mg wee this last run and it was g2g. I ran Ace/base/E and loved it.

Running Tren is one hell of a ride. We all must figure out or own specific responses to it and take our own path.

What I've been doing lately, when guys around town ask me about running Tren, is encourage them to fake a step back and re-evaluate their diet and training b4 running Tren. Too many guys think Tren will make up for the lack of time available in their life to meal prep and train properly.....this is a very bad decision. Only once you've nailed your diet/training for a good while, including run all other AAS, would I consider Tren.

mightymouse84
07-24-2020, 03:16 AM
With the price point I see it listed at at my sources who do carry it, I'll stick with Enanthate thanks for all the info