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JBHulk58
11-16-2020, 06:05 PM
What’s up everyone? I’ve run tren-e consistently for about a year. Might not be the smartest move I’ve made. I know. I run E because I am an absolute maniac on Acetate. Broke doors down with bare hands, you know. The usual tren reactions to life. But with E I don’t get that. However I have been crippled by nausea and have a hard time eating everyday. Even taking meds makes me want to gag and I will throw up occasionally. I’m cutting the tren out to see if that’s the issue. Has anyone experienced this at all? I’m also taking test, deca, mass bombs (adrol/dbol) with aromasin as needed and prami daily. The nausea is bad and I can not deal with it one day longer. Well hopefully in 2 weeks it’s a lot better.

Popeye*
11-16-2020, 06:46 PM
Tren absolutely positively can fuck my appetite up quickly. Dose depending and all I’m stacking with it. 50-75mg EOD doesn’t do much but 100mg sure does.

How many mg u takin of Tren?

Liftpower23
11-16-2020, 06:51 PM
Yes, Tren gives me indigestion after about 12 weeks... makes it hard to eat enough to maintain weight, which is why I only use tren for short blasts when calories are getting well below maintenance.

On the other hand, the anadrol and Dbol are probably the main culprit for the nausea. Orals absolutely wreck my stomach.

I would highly suggest you get full blood panels (the Hormone Unisex panel from PrivateMDlabs.com is good) to see what's going on with your cholesterol, liver & kidneys.

JBHulk58
11-16-2020, 08:08 PM
900 mg tren/week A lot. Yes.
literally started the anadrol and dianabol a few days ago. The nausea has been bad for a few months now.

JBHulk58
11-16-2020, 08:10 PM
Also. I just got diagnosed with a fatty liver. Just had some bloodwork the other day. Before I started this little oral run.

Popeye*
11-16-2020, 09:04 PM
I hope u are dropping those orals since being diagnosed with fatty liver [emoji1374]. Rx MIC injections work well detoxing fatty liver. I’d begin as soon as u can. PM me if u want to see where I get mine.

Thanks for sharing ur experience man.
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Pulpfiction
11-16-2020, 09:46 PM
This happens to me every time I stay on gear too long. Especially orals. I found out it was pancreatitis, not chronic but a flare up. Happened to me four times. Every time I eat I throw up and can’t put down any food. Then am incapacitated for days because of the pain and nadeau and vomiting. I honestly think it’s the anadrol, maybe the tren is making it worse but the orals are what destroy the stomach.

Durro
11-16-2020, 10:40 PM
You are toxic bro! Like others have said get off the orals and Tren if it doesn’t get better you will have to get off everything and pct of course or cruise or lower the dose on Test and Deca.

Raprichard
11-17-2020, 06:43 PM
Yeah get off of everything and PCT for sure!!! I know superdrol does this to me if I take it longer than three weeks.


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JBHulk58
11-17-2020, 07:09 PM
Literally have been on the orals for less then a week. was only running a short oral run. I’ll drop it.

what is Rx MIC??

502Kev
11-17-2020, 07:10 PM
What you have done, is in the past. Follow what these guys are saying, to get to what your future will turn out to be. I would drop the orals immediately. Run TRT dose Test only. I have never got to a point where there would be withdrawals on Tren, so I cant speak on that except I would consider low dose Tren Ace if that occurred vs a longer ester to use only if absolutely necessary. Best would be to consider where your health is right now, and not do any Tren or anything else AAS other than TRT dose Test. Wish you the best, and will say a prayer for you're achieving better health, and having had a learning experience

wheels864
11-18-2020, 05:26 PM
It's not uncommon for the symptoms you report to manifest. I really do have them pop up quickly as well. For this reason I use the base so it clears my system quickly and I can stop and start with little planning.
For nausea I use candied Ginger and it's good for that also nexium as needed and I want to mention that I am using eq from Feral and I can't do anything more than 200/wk I'm so hungry I am sick...
Shit work great I always have problems getting in enough food but now I think I have a remedy


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Riggs
11-19-2020, 05:24 AM
When I'm on an oral too long or my organs are too stressed I get hella nauseated all day. I'm having to stop Var/Winny stack right now because I'm nauseated. As in as I'm typing...right now.

Stop the orals immediately and if you can do bloods then do CBC & CMP at the least.

I'll be doing bloods asap because I have another fucking hernia so hopefully by that time maybe a few weeks I'll be normalizing again.

I just had some complications, got back on, and I'm experiencing the two above things. We're always changing. Listen to your body and be safe bud. Do not allow your enthusiasm to finish a cycle cloud your better judgment. Drop the orals.

And yes Tren gives me hella heartburn and I'll even get constipated too.

wheels864
11-19-2020, 08:20 AM
Well spoken Riggs

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Marine
11-19-2020, 10:15 AM
"Do not allow your enthusiasm to finish a cycle cloud your better judgment".(Riggs).

now this is sage advice. Well put brother.

JBHulk58
11-19-2020, 11:35 AM
Thank you guys for your concern. Feeling the love of the Brotherhood for sure.

Riggs
11-19-2020, 11:49 AM
Just noticed you're running Prami....Cabergoline yields zero sides for me except for mind blowing orgasms and I feel better overall. Mood/Libido boost and does away with difficulty ejaculating.

Prami however makes me nauseated and I've had projectile vomiting.

How long you been on Prami? Ever run it b4.

If you came to me off the board the 1st thing we'd do is a $75 blood panel to get a glimpse at organ health and other general health markers and also check RHR & BP. I'd start by looking at your Liver and Kidney function. Unless the Prami is the culprit it's very likely your organs are stressed and not functioning properly. How are your bowel movements? Are you constipated? That can cause nausea too. Poor digestion can cause nausea. I've recently added Metamucil and Fiber One Cereal (original) to my diet and it's helpful no doubt.

What has and is your AAS protocol? For example what's been the weekly dose of Tren, Test, Deca, then the daily dose of Dbol and Anadrol. I formulated and named those mass bombs too....I'm being serious.

Mass bombs can be heavy on the organs as well and IME yield lethargy and appetite suppression at 75mg ea.

As much as it sucks, trust me I've had to come off of several blasts over the last 3 yrs due to health reasons & injuries, some times we just have to say fuck it and drop all hormones but Test & keeping ancillaries. I love...

180mg Test E
25mg Proviron upon waking
10mg Nolva ED bedtime
.5mg Caber M & Th
10mg Cialis ED

I had post surgery complications and was hospitalized 2 x here @ 3 months ago and it was due to my organs being stressed b4 the procedure. When they brought me back up my organs were having a hard time functioning properly. Let me tell you here and now the pain I experienced after the meds wore off post surgery was out of this World. My wife would try to help me outta bed so I could get to the car then the hospital and her simply pulling my arm which applied pressure to my abdominal cavity would make me start begging her to stop. My organs were struggling to start up again and severly swollen. The pain was unbearable.

Point is its not worth it to push thru when you are experiencing something you describe as "not being able to deal with it one day longer." That's a profound statement especially considering you've been on Tren for 50+ weeks.

And I'm not judging. It's not in my blood to do so. Don't get down like that I only want to help.


What’s up everyone? I’ve run tren-e consistently for about a year. Might not be the smartest move I’ve made. I know. I run E because I am an absolute maniac on Acetate. Broke doors down with bare hands, you know. The usual tren reactions to life. But with E I don’t get that. However I have been crippled by nausea and have a hard time eating everyday. Even taking meds makes me want to gag and I will throw up occasionally. I’m cutting the tren out to see if that’s the issue. Has anyone experienced this at all? I’m also taking test, deca, mass bombs (adrol/dbol) with aromasin as needed and prami daily. The nausea is bad and I can not deal with it one day longer. Well hopefully in 2 weeks it’s a lot better.

Riggs
11-19-2020, 12:46 PM
Awwwhhhh shucks you guys.....bring it in for one big bro hug....aaand I'll take the reach around for $20.

Sorry I am, in fact, a manchild.


Well spoken Riggs

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"Do not allow your enthusiasm to finish a cycle cloud your better judgment".(Riggs).

now this is sage advice. Well put brother.

JBHulk58
11-19-2020, 11:36 PM
I thank you for your help. I will probably take some shit for these high doses.
I always go balls to the wall. This is the recent bulking run I’ve been doing.
750 test e / week
750 tren e / week
900 deca / week
1 mass bomb daily anadrol 25mg/dbol 25mg
.25 prami daily
6.25 aromasin every other day

would have loved caber instead or prami but it’s expensive. First time running prami. Haven’t had many sides other then when I did .5 instead of .25. Bad headache. But I was having slight deca/tren dick and once I got that I was stiff as a board again. I might throw an extra .25 mid day For the wife’s sake if I know there’s a chance I could get some.

also I’ve been off tren for almost a week now. And starting to feel a lot better. Still get full pretty quick but able to eat again

swolesoul
11-20-2020, 05:26 AM
On Tren E I get the sleepless nights, constipation, heartburn, and loss of appetite. My loss of appetite isn't associated with the heartburn/acid. I simply am not hungry all day. I force food down. As for the anger issues I no longer get that like my younger years. I'm on Test and Deca now and I'm more pissy than I was on my last Tren run.

Cap79
11-27-2020, 03:19 PM
What kind of liver support are you on? I would get off everything but test, run some Nac 3grams a day, and drink plenty of water. Sounds like you could be having liver issues

JBHulk58
11-27-2020, 05:13 PM
I stopped the tren only. Like I said I’m hard headed and wanted to make try this. I just thought it was the culprit. I have had zero issues for a week now. No nausea no vomiting. Been off tren for 2 weeks. Back to eating again. Feel night and day better.

Popeye*
11-28-2020, 02:43 PM
I stopped the tren only. Like I said I’m hard headed and wanted to make try this. I just thought it was the culprit. I have had zero issues for a week now. No nausea no vomiting. Been off tren for 2 weeks. Back to eating again. Feel night and day better.

Yep tren does that shit to me every time. Orals do not. Smart move.

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Xxplosive
11-28-2020, 11:49 PM
Tren is VERY hard on your kidneys... Can lead to adrenal fatigue and a slew of other shit.

Keep tren runs short lived and reasonably dosed, it's THE most addictive aas because you see such stark physique changes in short time, but it will fuck your life up in a lot of ways if you don't temper it.

I'm not a monster like some of you guys are, but at 5'9, 216 lbs and 11% bf... 75mg EOD of legit tren a is the threshold of what i can even handle.

I accidentally got some mislabeled Mast E 200 that is really tren E 200... I was shooting 300mg of Tren E/wk + 75mg Tren A eod and have barely been able to get out of bed last 3 days. Part of it is resting some tendinitis, but my piss has been Orange, my mood has tanked and feel totally unmotivated. Was lifting 5-6x a week the last 3 months prior.

Cranberry Juice, NAC and Apple Cider Vinegar for your kidneys.... Idk about you guys, but there is a direct correlation with how dark my piss is and how shitty i feel.

JBHulk58
12-02-2020, 06:50 PM
Cranberry juice?? Whatta ya on ya period???

Riggs
12-02-2020, 08:05 PM
Cranberry juice?? Whatta ya on ya period???

Uhhmm wrong board bud...you're thinking of the Sisterhoodofpain...LMAO

JBHulk58
12-03-2020, 09:08 PM
It was a reference from the movie The Departed. Lol

bigpapapumpaf
12-03-2020, 10:02 PM
Toss the prami and go to caber. Cracks me up when people want to skimp here. Its not worth it the sides.

Bpp

Riggs
12-05-2020, 02:55 AM
Couldn't agree more. Prami fucked me up.


Toss the prami and go to caber. Cracks me up when people want to skimp here. Its not worth it the sides.

Bpp

Plate Smacker
12-05-2020, 08:57 AM
Edit: see you came off after reading through... this all still applies though.
I guarantee if you go to a TRT dose, or even down to 250mg Test/wk if concerned... in 2 weeks you will actually start gaining size. After week one drop Aromasin to 12.5mg E3D, at the end of week 2 drop Aromasin to 12.5mg once per week.
Some of my best gains come from coming off and going to 200mg/wk Test E.
At 200mg/wk I don't need Aromasin or Nolva. That's me though.
Your gains won't magically disappear. You will be fine.
Do it.
10 week cruise challenge then bloodwork.
Let's get you healthy again.

Riggs
12-07-2020, 06:52 AM
Do it.

DO IT

I fucking love it LMFAO