Primo the best for trt?

[Noob]

Primonolan best for trt? And whats the average doaage 150mg a week?

[Riggs]

Adding hormones other than Testosterone is not Testosterone Replacement Therapy. If adding 150mg Primo to Test is viewed as being beneficial in a trt protocol, with a life long commitment, then using the same logic adding 150mg Nandrolone (Deca) would be beneficial too. Why not 150mg Test/150mg Primo/150mg Deca......

Not talking shit, being overly picky, or being a dick to you specifically, I just don't understand why the term trt is used so loosely in the BB'n community. Maybe it's because we're "GEAR HEADS!" LMFAO

What's your Test weekly dose? And what about Primo is leading you to consider it?

Honestly I love running 1cc of a, Test E 200/Mast E 200 per ml/cc blend, a week. 1/2cc M/Th is perfect IMO. Primo can be twice the cost of Mast and at low doses I don't see/feel a difference in the two. The blend I mentioned I got for @ $60 and caught a great sale 30% off too so I've got a stock pile of it. If I'm not blasting it's what I run yr round. 5 vials cost me @ $240 and is 50 weeks worth of use.

[Drillit]

Adding hormones other than Testosterone is not Testosterone Replacement Therapy. If adding 150mg Primo to Test is viewed as being beneficial in a trt protocol, with a life long commitment, then using the same logic adding 150mg Nandrolone (Deca) would be beneficial too. Why not 150mg Test/150mg Primo/150mg Deca......

Not talking shit, being overly picky, or being a dick to you specifically, I just don't understand why the term trt is used so loosely in the BB'n community. Maybe it's because we're "GEAR HEADS!" LMFAO

What's your Test weekly dose? And what about Primo is leading you to consider it?

Honestly I love running 1cc of a, Test E 200/Mast E 200 per ml/cc blend, a week. 1/2cc M/Th is perfect IMO. Primo can be twice the cost of Mast and at low doses I don't see/feel a difference in the two. The blend I mentioned I got for @ $60 and caught a great sale 30% off too so I've got a stock pile of it. If I'm not blasting it's what I run yr round. 5 vials cost me @ $240 and is 50 weeks worth of use.

Thought I could use tren, because it started with a T. Thanks for nothing Riggs!

[Riggs]

Thought I could use tren, because it started with a T. Thanks for nothing Riggs!

Ohhkay that made me laugh out loud.

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[Shaunsr]

the test/masteron trt combo seems to be more and more common. what are the risks vs benefits to it. im asking because im offically on trt for life cuz of drug abuse, and not the bb kind lol. you know at first its like cool i get to run gear legally, but the thought forever is forever can be sobering. anyways i havent started yet this is all new im about to lean bulk so after is when ill go officially on lol. also plan on taking mk 677 as part of my hrt..

[Riggs]

the test/masteron trt combo seems to be more and more common. what are the risks vs benefits to it. im asking because im offically on trt for life cuz of drug abuse, and not the bb kind lol. you know at first its like cool i get to run gear legally, but the thought forever is forever can be sobering. anyways i havent started yet this is all new im about to lean bulk so after is when ill go officially on lol. also plan on taking mk 677 as part of my hrt..

IME Mast alongside Test at trt (again with Mast added it's not trt) or cruise "doses" maximizes the benefits of Test. It lowers SHBG keeping libido high, keeps me dry, and I feel fuqn great on it. For long term use keep an eye on your Prostate and I strongly encourage running Prostate health OTC's.

Just do regular bloods because with trt doses it's a delicate balance. Our body is constantly working towards homeostasis so again I encourage you monitor this closely with bloods.

On 200mg ea Test E/Mast E, Cialis, Nolva, and Caber I feel fucking amazing.

[murph]

I have always been of the opinion that TRT should be just that and nothing more. I think Mast and Prmio should be used as a tool to polish off before a show most people use it out of context and will only end up with a fucked up prostate

[MasterBlaster805]

All those protocols you mentioned CAN and have Been used with TRT (low dose NPP/ Deca for joint pain for example).

Running a mild low dose compound along with your TRT to enhance the effects is perfectly fine, as long as you're giving blood 2-3 times per year and getting lab work done every 3 to 4 months to make sure everything is good. I don't do it myself but I know plenty of old timers who do. Low dose EQ and Deca seem to be the most popular

[Klinkster]

I have always been of the opinion that TRT should be just that and nothing more. I think Mast and Prmio should be used as a tool to polish off before a show most people use it out of context and will only end up with a fucked up prostate

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[Argon Coagulator]

Primo is so mild that I'm not sure if you'd even notice 150mg. Now Masteron i can understand as it raises libido and sharpens up the physique even at lower doses. Primo however isn't known to do alot at low doses. I'm in my 4th week on 350 primo and 350 test prop and so far i can't tell any difference compared to running just 350 test prop. It's definitely nowhere near as strong as NPP or DHB at this dose.

[boptrthgh]

I run 150mg of test and 50mg of primo each week. The addition of primo has had the following effect:
- Lowered E2 from 45 to 25
- Increased Free T from 21 to 32
- Lowed SHBG from 40 to 20

No changes to any other blood markers (CBC, HcT, AST, Chol., etc).

[mjbwarrior]

I am on TRT. Love it. 200 mg per wk of test c only. Had some docs say low weekly dose of deca would help the joints. Also taking GAC injections as of this week actually. Curious to know how the aminos (GAC) will or will not help. The test alone feels good and with the right work ethic and diet it can do more than most would think. That said I am thinking to up the dose and see where it gets me. The juice may not be worth the squeeze at higher doses... no pun intended.

[MasterBlaster805]

I have always been of the opinion that TRT should be just that and nothing more. I think Mast and Prmio should be used as a tool to polish off before a show most people use it out of context and will only end up with a fucked up prostate

58 year old lifetime competitive bodybuilder here. Started training for shows 43 years ago and had 1st show at 17.. I do Test Cyp TRT at 100 mgs every 4-5 days for 7 months of the year, but I still add mini stacks to my Test during Spring and summer (low dose Masteron, EQ, or Deca along with super low dose Tren). Why? To continue to stay strong, train hard, and look good naked for the wife. So far have had zero health issues and am taking zero prescription medications for anything. Daily cardio keeps BP in range and resting pulse rate low. Donating blood several times per year keeps hemoglobin & hematocrit in check. The key is moderation in everything and regular blood work to see where you're at.

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​I like the logic behind your thought process


Thought I could use tren, because it started with a T. Thanks for nothing Riggs!

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[ski748134]

I have run pretty much all gear in every way when it comes to trt...personally I like to run low dose test with mast or primo...to be honest I think most of us run gear constantly through the year for me if I drop to 150 test cyp then add mast in with it at a low dose also when I ramp up I switch my compounds to like test primo npp I always go low test around 400 when on cycle then add npp 500 and primo 700 as long as I switch stuff up I do well

[Riggs]

Daily cardio keeps BP in range and resting pulse rate low. Donating blood several times per year keeps hemoglobin & hematocrit in check. The key is moderation in everything and regular blood work to see where you're at.

VERY sound advice. Nice post bud.

[Riggs]

I run 150mg of test and 50mg of primo each week. The addition of primo has had the following effect:
- Lowered E2 from 45 to 25
- Increased Free T from 21 to 32
- Lowed SHBG from 40 to 20

No changes to any other blood markers (CBC, HcT, AST, Chol., etc).

50mg of Primo lowered SHBG by 50% and also lowered oestradiol by 45ish%.....holy fuck. I would love to see the full blood panel because usually when SHBG is lowered that significantly E2 rises.

Specifically with Primo I understand it to, rather than acting as an AI, it competes with Test for Aromatase. If that makes sense but again wow 45% & 50% fluctuations are substantial changes on just 50mg.

I love reviewing bloods bud. It's a passion of mine. I would love an opportunity to learn from your bloods bro.

If not I completely understand. Pm me if you so choose.

Appreciate you sharing. This has definitely peaked my interest.

[BarbellNinja]

I cruise on 125mg/week Test Cyp. I usually run 50mg/day Proviron year round which I love. I'm going to be experimenting replacing the Provi for 200mg Primo and see how my bloods look and how I feel. If everything looks good, I could cycle back and forth possibly keeping both compounds more effective.

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[Audiooval]

What are the effects anyone’s noticed on the body by adding primo or mast e to their TRT protocol? I have not needed to up my dose as of yet because I am continuing to make gains in the gym but I am thinking of adding mast or primo to see what happens and how my body reacts.