Injection pain severe 7 days

[rocknroll]

Fellas, I feel like someone hit me in the glute with a baseball bat about 3 times. It was either the NPP (100mg) or Test e (300mg). I can’t remember which glute I did which compound. The pain has subsided a little but it still hurts like hell to sit down it was SUPER tender for a good 6 days.

the whole flute hurts not just the spot of injection.
I stopped the cycle. Came from board sponsor that I’ve used before. In fact have used exact compounds from them before.

Was on about 2nd or third week of cycle. Yeah there was SOME pain with the previous injections in this cycle but nothing like what I have had the last week. Have taken ibuprofen round the clock to help.

Any insight or advice is appreciated.

[Booker]

Did you remember where ya got stuck? Sounds like you hit a nerve… worse I have had is 3 days. If you get nauseous or get a bad fever.. that’s when you might need real help.

[rocknroll]

Did you remember where ya got stuck? Sounds like you hit a nerve… worse I have had is 3 days. If you get nauseous or get a bad fever.. that’s when you might need real help.

Thanks, booker. I stuck a little lower than usual I remember. I don’t recall any pain when injecting. Are you saying maybe I injected into the nerve, hence the soreness?

inhave felt fine other than the local pain.

[Loomer1]

Thanks, booker. I stuck a little lower than usual I remember. I don’t recall any pain when injecting. Are you saying maybe I injected into the nerve, hence the soreness?

inhave felt fine other than the local pain.

Could be a nerve but usually if I hit a nerve theres pain and a hard little knot for a few days.

Did the pip get worse with each pin?
If so could be some bacteria got in there and it's getting worse.

Or the npp brew mix was a little off and its causing pip.
I cant imagine the test e brew would have issues. That's the easiest compound to brew.

Oh... and the reason your whole muscle hurts is once you pin the oil speads and since you pinned glutes it mostly will spread out and down throughout the whole muscle.

[Loomer1]

If you notice redness, heat and or itches alot. I'd go get some antibiotics.

[Booker]

That’s a straight urgent care visit. I think they can only really prescribe antibiotics if you feel like it might be infected. Keep us posted bro. Remember to inject higher. There are a lot of good pics online for glute sites. I only do glute or delts.

[*XXL]

Fellas, I feel like someone hit me in the glute with a baseball bat about 3 times. It was either the NPP (100mg) or Test e (300mg). I can’t remember which glute I did which compound. The pain has subsided a little but it still hurts like hell to sit down it was SUPER tender for a good 6 days.

the whole flute hurts not just the spot of injection.
I stopped the cycle. Came from board sponsor that I’ve used before. In fact have used exact compounds from them before.

Was on about 2nd or third week of cycle. Yeah there was SOME pain with the previous injections in this cycle but nothing like what I have had the last week. Have taken ibuprofen round the clock to help.

Any insight or advice is appreciated.

NPp can do that. Depends on the brewing but also dosage. If it’s 200mg ml, you will feel it.

I like it at 150mg/ml.

Now it depends on how much you injected at one time? How many CCs.

Also, did you inject fast, or slow?

Also, into a commonly used area or virgin area?

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[Loomer1]

NPp can do that. Depends on the brewing but also dosage. If it’s 200mg ml, you will feel it.

I like it at 150mg/ml.

Now it depends on how much you injected at one time? How many CCs.

Also, did you inject fast, or slow?

Also, into a commonly used area or virgin area?

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Oh yeah I forgot to mention that. High mg or new spot.

[Loomer1]

I havent been pinning my chest for a while and it was a lil tender for a few days. What I'm wondering in rocknrolls case is if the pip got worse with each pin. It sounds that's what it is from the description.

[Exo-Gen]

if i hit a nerve i pull out and move to the side a little

always inject slow. if using 1''1/2'' you have the room to pull out a 1/2'' towards the end to inject the last bit an inch deep

after 'im done i use a clean paper towel sprayed with alcohol ( i put mine in a spray bottle) and i use that to massage the area briefly first clockwise then counter. however never massage an injectable PWO immediately after or you will work it towards the top and if it traps between the sub q areas will hurt more. also i will not massage right away if blood or oil leaks out. i will just lightly pat dry

[MarvelNerd]

I just hit my glute with 200 test/200mast/200npp never have much issue. Not even with high mgs anymore.

Lots of good advice. Even if I hit a nerve. Did you move the pin much? I have move the pin around and had some pain.


Never Stop Growing

[Exo-Gen]

Did you move the pin much? I have move the pin around and had some pain.


not going to say i never just stabbed deeper when hitting a nerve lol. but i pull out and go about 1/2'' to the side

[Exo-Gen]

one thing about high mg or PWO no esters like tren base is i'm so used to it an hour later i'm fine. even with time off from using them

i agree at some point if really really need to go to an ER. but most guys freak out and there is no need to go to an ER at all. it's been pointed out previously when to go to an ER so i won't go over that.

some times you have to suck it up buttercup

[Exo-Gen]

not going to say i never just stabbed deeper when hitting a nerve lol. but i pull out and go about 1/2'' to the side

which is a good reason to go slow so you can control these situations

[Exo-Gen]

if can't handle TP then use T250
if can't handle T400 the use T250

sometimes you have to change things up

if doing 3ml in one shot may have to break it up into 1ml 3 x wk

shit like that

[MarvelNerd]

not going to say i never just stabbed deeper when hitting a nerve lol. but i pull out and go about 1/2'' to the side

I have hit a nerve in the quads. Glutes are a safe place for me. I always try to count to 10-20 when uses 2 ml or more.


Never Stop Growing

[rocknroll]

Could be a nerve but usually if I hit a nerve theres pain and a hard little knot for a few days.

Did the pip get worse with each pin?
If so could be some bacteria got in there and it's getting worse.

Or the npp brew mix was a little off and its causing pip.
I cant imagine the test e brew would have issues. That's the easiest compound to brew.

Oh... and the reason your whole muscle hurts is once you pin the oil speads and since you pinned glutes it mostly will spread out and down throughout the whole muscle.

I'm wondering if I het the sciatic nerve. Looking at anatomical diagrams and comparing to the epicenter of my pain it seems I could've hit that nerve. I'm worried I did permanent damage although it seems to be getting better, even though slowly.

It was after one pin that it happened, not an accumulation, at least I don't believe. The other injections, one or two of them, seemed more normal...a little pain maybe...

[rocknroll]

That’s a straight urgent care visit. I think they can only really prescribe antibiotics if you feel like it might be infected. Keep us posted bro. Remember to inject higher. There are a lot of good pics online for glute sites. I only do glute or delts.

Thanks. I looked at pics and I was outside that upper-outer box I believe. I don't feel like it's infected at least in terms of no redness, itchiness, fever, etc.

There IS a decent mounding lump. So it's definitely inflamed maybe? Just don't see signs of increasing infection but IDK...

[rocknroll]

I just hit my glute with 200 test/200mast/200npp never have much issue. Not even with high mgs anymore.

Lots of good advice. Even if I hit a nerve. Did you move the pin much? I have move the pin around and had some pain.


Never Stop Growing

Thanks, I don't think I moved the pin at all really. I'm pretty careful with that. I'm just concerned that if I hit a nerve, that it'll be a permanent pain type of thing. I tend to think the worst though....

[Exo-Gen]

Thanks, I don't think I moved the pin at all really. I'm pretty careful with that. I'm just concerned that if I hit a nerve, that it'll be a permanent pain type of thing. I tend to think the worst though....

i don't think so. my bet is you'll be fine, and i hope you will as well. keep us updated

[MarvelNerd]

Thanks, I don't think I moved the pin at all really. I'm pretty careful with that. I'm just concerned that if I hit a nerve, that it'll be a permanent pain type of thing. I tend to think the worst though....

It definitely goes away. Although after putting tren base in my delt I thought it was going to be permanently painful.


Never Stop Growing

[Exo-Gen]

It definitely goes away. Although after putting tren base in my delt I thought it was going to be permanently painful.


Never Stop Growing

lol hopefully you used a slin pin

[GlorySpecialist]

Thanks. I looked at pics and I was outside that upper-outer box I believe. I don't feel like it's infected at least in terms of no redness, itchiness, fever, etc.

There IS a decent mounding lump. So it's definitely inflamed maybe? Just don't see signs of increasing infection but IDK...

Probably just a bad inj. Sometimes we hit a bad area, push too fast, body rejects some of the solvents, oil leaks sub q ,etc. just keep an eye on it as you never know. If any redness or itching develops, may want to see a doc and get a course of antibiotic. Any bruising ?

edit: with glutes, I do best with upper/outer region.

[GlorySpecialist]

I’d try a hot compress + massage for the lumping. Oil may have hit dispersed. Body could have issues with the carrier oil too as I forgot to mention

[Loomer1]

I have hit a nerve in the quads. Glutes are a safe place for me. I always try to count to 10-20 when uses 2 ml or more.


Never Stop Growing

Oooo love that! Lol everytime I hit a nerve in the quad my muscle jumps so much the pin comes out and I end up stabbing myself wherever it lands on the rebound of the jump. Lol

[Loomer1]

I have hit a nerve in the quads. Glutes are a safe place for me. I always try to count to 10-20 when uses 2 ml or more.


Never Stop Growing


I'm wondering if I het the sciatic nerve. Looking at anatomical diagrams and comparing to the epicenter of my pain it seems I could've hit that nerve. I'm worried I did permanent damage although it seems to be getting better, even though slowly.

It was after one pin that it happened, not an accumulation, at least I don't believe. The other injections, one or two of them, seemed more normal...a little pain maybe...


Ahh ok it is possible you hit that nerve. With you saying it lumped up pretty good it does sound like it.
I dont see any reason youd have permanent pain or damage. Like alot of us I've ran cycles with 7 or more pins a day of different shit. So I've ran into probably every issue, 99% of the time whatever it is. It goes away after a few weeks. I hit a nerve or artery in the glute once and my whole glute and some of my ham was black and blue. That one scared me but the bruising went away and all was fine.
By now you would know if it was infected so that's at least scratched off.

[rocknroll]

Probably just a bad inj. Sometimes we hit a bad area, push too fast, body rejects some of the solvents, oil leaks sub q ,etc. just keep an eye on it as you never know. If any redness or itching develops, may want to see a doc and get a course of antibiotic. Any bruising ?

edit: with glutes, I do best with upper/outer region.

Thanks GLorySpecialist....No bruising whatsoever. I wondered if I should massage to break it up a bit. I'll try that and hot compress. Today it seems a LITTLE bit better...Slow progress is still progress. I'll take it.

I've read where it "crystalizes" somehow? Not sure what that means or what the symptoms are but maybe that's what's happened a bit too.

Regardless, thanks for the advice.

[rocknroll]

Ahh ok it is possible you hit that nerve. With you saying it lumped up pretty good it does sound like it.
I dont see any reason youd have permanent pain or damage. Like alot of us I've ran cycles with 7 or more pins a day of different shit. So I've ran into probably every issue, 99% of the time whatever it is. It goes away after a few weeks. I hit a nerve or artery in the glute once and my whole glute and some of my ham was black and blue. That one scared me but the bruising went away and all was fine.
By now you would know if it was infected so that's at least scratched off.

Ok thanks, Loomer. Makes sense. That bruising you had would've freaked me out a bit. I really appreciate everyone's feedback and insight. Bigtime...I'll keep checking back for comments and will my status and progress.

Hopefully others can learn from this...if nothing else....INJECT IN THE OUTER/UPPER GLUTE.

[Loomer1]

Thanks GLorySpecialist....No bruising whatsoever. I wondered if I should massage to break it up a bit. I'll try that and hot compress. Today it seems a LITTLE bit better...Slow progress is still progress. I'll take it.

I've read where it "crystalizes" somehow? Not sure what that means or what the symptoms are but maybe that's what's happened a bit too.

Regardless, thanks for the advice.

Yeah when you pin the you metabolize the oil and the hormone Crystal's are left behind for your body to absorb more slowly. Depending on the ester determines how fast or slow the hormone is absorbed.

And yes heat and message should help. Take a hot bath. I use a message gun. That thing really gets in there lol.

[cybrsage]

I usually have some pain and swelling in an area I have never pinned before or have not pinned in a very long time. Always goes away after 4 or 5 days.

[GlorySpecialist]

Thanks GLorySpecialist....No bruising whatsoever. I wondered if I should massage to break it up a bit. I'll try that and hot compress. Today it seems a LITTLE bit better...Slow progress is still progress. I'll take it.

I've read where it "crystalizes" somehow? Not sure what that means or what the symptoms are but maybe that's what's happened a bit too.

Regardless, thanks for the advice.

No problem, man . Sometimes compounds can crash inside the muscle. This can happen with colder temps too.

Keep us updated on the hot compress

[IronTex]

Sorry to hijack, but this post reminds me of my boldenone acetate experience. HOLY FUCK
It's like my high school gin drinking experience. I drank WAY to much being a complete idiot.
Puked up pine needle smelling shit for hours. Thought I was gonna die.
Every time I hear an extreme PIP story, I sends me to my Boldenone Acetate experience.

[GlorySpecialist]

Sorry to hijack, but this post reminds me of my boldenone acetate experience. HOLY FUCK
It's like my high school gin drinking experience. I drank WAY to much being a complete idiot.
Puked up pine needle smelling shit for hours. Thought I was gonna die.
Every time I hear an extreme PIP story, I sends me to my Boldenone Acetate experience.

haha, let’s hear it. Post a new thread? Lol . Would like to read what you got off bold ace in terms of experience too

[Loomer1]

Sorry to hijack, but this post reminds me of my boldenone acetate experience. HOLY FUCK
It's like my high school gin drinking experience. I drank WAY to much being a complete idiot.
Puked up pine needle smelling shit for hours. Thought I was gonna die.
Every time I hear an extreme PIP story, I sends me to my Boldenone Acetate experience.

I'm with Glory on this brotha. Do a post! Not much bold ace floating around. Im sure alot of us would like to hear your experience.

I tried to run tren no ester in guicol. Whoooowwwyyyiiee. That was instant terrible pip. And the smell was god awful. Soon as the oil started going in that smell hit the back of my throat and nose. Those few vials I had made the room smell like guicol, basically cat piss. Lol

[rocknroll]

Update...good news and bad news.

GOOD NEWS: The pain in my glutei is almost completely gone. Went away somewhat rapidly. I did warm compress and massaged for a day or so and woke up almost gone this morning. Awesome.

BAD NEWS: I injected NPP into left quad 2 nights ago figuring I'd be OK but now it hurts REALLY bad just like my glute did. It hurt like hell yesterday when I woke up but I wanted to give it a day to see if it was just PIP. It's a notch worse today, similar to how my glute got worse for a day or two.

I walk with a limp that would be worse if I didn't fight it. It's like a bad deep thigh bruise I got in football in college. It's SO sore and tender. No redness or itchiness. BTW, I used a different vial than the glute injection, not that it matters.

What the heck, Fellas?

Bad gear? Or maybe just my body rejecting this even though have run 1-2 NPP cycles before? I've injected Test without problems all throughout this without issue or PIP.

I don't doubt it'll go away after 8-9 days like my glute but rather puzzling and frustrating.

Started taking Amoxicillin just in case of internal infection.

Thoughts?

[*XXL]

Update...good news and bad news.

GOOD NEWS: The pain in my glutei is almost completely gone. Went away somewhat rapidly. I did warm compress and massaged for a day or so and woke up almost gone this morning. Awesome.

BAD NEWS: I injected NPP into left quad 2 nights ago figuring I'd be OK but now it hurts REALLY bad just like my glute did. It hurt like hell yesterday when I woke up but I wanted to give it a day to see if it was just PIP. It's a notch worse today, similar to how my glute got worse for a day or two.

I walk with a limp that would be worse if I didn't fight it. It's like a bad deep thigh bruise I got in football in college. It's SO sore and tender. No redness or itchiness. BTW, I used a different vial than the glute injection, not that it matters.

What the heck, Fellas?

Bad gear? Or maybe just my body rejecting this even though have run 1-2 NPP cycles before? I've injected Test without problems all throughout this without issue or PIP.

I don't doubt it'll go away after 8-9 days like my glute but rather puzzling and frustrating.

Started taking Amoxicillin just in case of internal infection.

Thoughts?

[emoji23] No. if you read what I wrote, it will make sense. NPP usually has a tiny bite or PIP. If you injected fast, or into virgin muscle, or a good amount, it will do that. Be be honest, it’s part of the process.


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[Exo-Gen]

i knew a guy once who tried test from several different labs and they've all had pain and bruising yet he was able to take 300mg of deca 2xweek in the same shoulder no problem like butter.

Do Not say what lab yours is from because it would be tacky with me in the conversation and also this is most likely an isolated issue with only you and we don't want to slander.
but i would consider switching brands ? i feel like at this point that's your only option. and if you do switch i would start with a low dosage in a fresh new spot. and do not mix the npp with the test so you can determine how the new gear will react individually

[Exo-Gen]

also some guys will convince them selves they have an infection when it's really test flu, and or test flu and bad pip. bad pip can most certainly feel like being hit with a baseball bat at it's worst. some compounds react different in different bodies. and using amoxicillin or an antibiotic when not needed can lead to superbugs.

[Jaxz]

This one sounds like injecting to fast to me and it's under the skin.

[rocknroll]

i knew a guy once who tried test from several different labs and they've all had pain and bruising yet he was able to take 300mg of deca 2xweek in the same shoulder no problem like butter.

Do Not say what lab yours is from because it would be tacky with me in the conversation and also this is most likely an isolated issue with only you and we don't want to slander.
but i would consider switching brands ? i feel like at this point that's your only option. and if you do switch i would start with a low dosage in a fresh new spot. and do not mix the npp with the test so you can determine how the new gear will react individually

Right on. Thanks, I wouldn't mention lab. I love the lab actually. Have never had an issue. That's why I'm wondering if it's just my body.

I failed to mention that in the quad, I did HALF dose so .5cc (50mg) of NPP...crazy it still did this.

[rocknroll]

This one sounds like injecting to fast to me and it's under the skin.

I hear you Jaxz but trust me, after what happened in the glute, I did it VERY carefully and by the book. I've been on TRT for 4 years or so and injected in the quad countless times but still went and looked at a few diagrams to be sure I was in the right spot, went slow and steady, etc. I dunno...

[rocknroll]

[emoji23] No. if you read what I wrote, it will make sense. NPP usually has a tiny bite or PIP. If you injected fast, or into virgin muscle, or a good amount, it will do that. Be be honest, it’s part of the process.


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Cool XXL. I forgot to mention that I did half dose of the NPP in the quad... 1/2 cc which would be 50mg...regardless, must just be my body's reaction THIS time even though it's my 3rd cycle of NPP.

I just hope it's not another 8-ish days to feeling normal. All part of the game I guess....

[*XXL]

Cool XXL. I forgot to mention that I did half dose of the NPP in the quad... 1/2 cc which would be 50mg...regardless, must just be my body's reaction THIS time even though it's my 3rd cycle of NPP.

I just hope it's not another 8-ish days to feeling normal. All part of the game I guess....

Is this your first quad shot? Is this your fist run with NPP? Ts a shorter ester so it can have some pip. Just depends. My first time, same experience. Now it’s minimal but, I pin small amounts each day with slin pin to prevent any pip. But also EXOs NPP has none.


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[Exo-Gen]

have to inject in the penis for less pip ! it's what the pros do to have a big package on stage as well !! 1000mg carefully not to get any in the pee hole because it burns
:eu-Fun8187:

[*XXL]

have to inject in the penis for less pip ! it's what the pros do to have a big package on stage as well !! 1000mg carefully not to get any in the pee hole because it burns
:eu-Fun8187:

I thought it was into the hole of the penis, not the penis itself?


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[Exo-Gen]

I thought it was into the hole of the penis, not the penis itself?




no, that was in the 90's

[rocknroll]

Is this your first quad shot? Is this your fist run with NPP? Ts a shorter ester so it can have some pip. Just depends. My first time, same experience. Now it’s minimal but, I pin small amounts each day with slin pin to prevent any pip. But also EXOs NPP has none.


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this is not my first quad shot. I’ve been on TRT for 4-5 years injecting glutes and quads the entire time.

Third run with NPP. No issues with first two whatsoever, with any compound I’ve run.

Did measly 50mg in quad. Half the dose. Quad is swollen, increasingly so it seems over today, and hurts like hell to walk and even more to bend my knee.

[MarvelNerd]

this is not my first quad shot. I’ve been on TRT for 4-5 years injecting glutes and quads the entire time.

Third run with NPP. No issues with first two whatsoever, with any compound I’ve run.

Did measly 50mg in quad. Half the dose. Quad is swollen, increasingly so it seems over today, and hurts like hell to walk and even more to bend my knee.

I just hit upper quads today used 25 g 1 inch. 200 test c/e, 200 mast e, 200 NPP. No pip, no issues. 2 ml injection took 10-15 seconds for total injection.
Sounds like a brewing issue.


Never Stop Growing

[Booker]

Any updates? You doing better bro?

[rocknroll]

Update: yesterday (over three weeks from injection) was the first day I didn’t feel pain in my quad. Finally did leg workout felt great. I dunno…I’ve run 3-4 NPP cycles with the same sponsor.

I tossed the NPP. No way would I consider risking the pain I’ve had. Not worth it.

fwiw, as per the sponsored recommendation I got on anabiotic (urgent care gave me cephalexin) but I don’t think that really helped. I don’t believe it was an instant infection ya know? Whatever …

I’m just glad I’m back to normal. Sometimes normal feels so good ya know.

So I stopped my cycle of dbol test NPP back when pain started…will run a cycle of some sort at another point minus any NPP I guess.

thanks for everyone’s help here!

[Loomer1]

no, that was in the 90's

Hahahaha!!! That was a good one

[Loomer1]

Update: yesterday (over three weeks from injection) was the first day I didn’t feel pain in my quad. Finally did leg workout felt great. I dunno…I’ve run 3-4 NPP cycles with the same sponsor.

I tossed the NPP. No way would I consider risking the pain I’ve had. Not worth it.

fwiw, as per the sponsored recommendation I got on anabiotic (urgent care gave me cephalexin) but I don’t think that really helped. I don’t believe it was an instant infection ya know? Whatever …

I’m just glad I’m back to normal. Sometimes normal feels so good ya know.

So I stopped my cycle of dbol test NPP back when pain started…will run a cycle of some sort at another point minus any NPP I guess.

thanks for everyone’s help here!

Yeah bro, I dont think you did anything wrong. Something was wrong with that npp. No way should the pip be that bad from it.

Maybe too much ba or bb. Could be bacteria. Who knows, I had some tren back in the day that hurt like that, it hurt just laying down in bed. Figured maybe hit a nerve or blah blah. So I pinned again and same thing. After that like you I tossed it.
I dont think all of a sudden your body started rejecting npp.
That vial was bad, we all make mistakes. Shit happens. I'm sure that source is still g2g. But if it were me I'd switch. Especially with npp.

[DFL]

Did you ever have any redness/warmth at the injection site and/or a temperature?

NPP shouldn't be a painful injection IMO. The Phenylprop Ester has always been relatively painless in my experience, especially dosed at 100mg/ml. This goes for NPP and TPP.

[rocknroll]

Yeah bro, I dont think you did anything wrong. Something was wrong with that npp. No way should the pip be that bad from it.

Maybe too much ba or bb. Could be bacteria. Who knows, I had some tren back in the day that hurt like that, it hurt just laying down in bed. Figured maybe hit a nerve or blah blah. So I pinned again and same thing. After that like you I tossed it.
I dont think all of a sudden your body started rejecting npp.
That vial was bad, we all make mistakes. Shit happens. I'm sure that source is still g2g. But if it were me I'd switch. Especially with npp.

thank you, brother! I was thinking similarly. It happens…happy thanksgiving.

[rocknroll]

Did you ever have any redness/warmth at the injection site and/or a temperature?

NPP shouldn't be a painful injection IMO. The Phenylprop Ester has always been relatively painless in my experience, especially dosed at 100mg/ml. This goes for NPP and TPP.

neber noticed any warmth. Maybe a little redness? The pain was deep in the thigh like someone hit it with a baseball bat no joke. Yeah, have done NPP plenty before without issue. Must’ve been a poorly mixed compound is all I can figure. Leg still not �� but almost there. It’s certainly not restricting me from anything I want to do.

[DFL]

neber noticed any warmth. Maybe a little redness? The pain was deep in the thigh like someone hit it with a baseball bat no joke. Yeah, have done NPP plenty before without issue. Must’ve been a poorly mixed compound is all I can figure. Leg still not �� but almost there. It’s certainly not restricting me from anything I want to do.

Sounds like it was probably some pyrogenic endotoxin contamination IMO.

Quite a few variables that cause it. More than likely poor sterilization practices with vials or stoppers.

Could also maybe be some miscalculations with the raw and BA/BB ratio but that would be pretty hard to fuck up, especially for someone with experience compounding.

[Loomer1]

Sounds like it was probably some pyrogenic endotoxin contamination IMO.

Quite a few variables that cause it. More than likely poor sterilization practices with vials or stoppers.

Hmm, just learned something new. Thanks brotha.
I figured it was that or the recipe was off on something. Never knew there was a term for vial contamination.

[DFL]

Hmm, just learned something new. Thanks brotha.
I figured it was that or the recipe was off on something. Never knew there was a term for vial contamination.

Yes sir. And it happens a lot. Most dont have much of an idea how to properly wash/sterilize vials and stoppers. I'll see if I can find the literature (used to have it saved but had to do a reinstall on my PC recently) but, I know using alcohol on vials and stoppers can actually contribute to leaving endotoxins behind. Until I find that one, here is another good article to check out which gives some insight on how to properly sterilize.

https://www.dwkltd.com/en/media/post/depyrogenation-of-pharmaceutical-packaging-components