ZMA WAS SCAM

[jdb3]

Hey there brothers, just got finnished reading "Game of Shadows" byMarkFainaru and Lance Williams. Its about the whole BALCO, rise of Patrick Arnold, Andro, Barry Bonds, McGuire and all the olympians on hor ones.

So any ways Victor Conte founder of balco, completely made the ZMA concept up, all the studies were boguS!!! He kept all the top name sponsee's (NFL,IFBB,OLYPIANS) adversdtising ZMA because he was suppling them "The Clear" and GH.

The machine he claimed to do the "mineral detection" experiements was a complete crock of shit!!!!

If you have a deficiancy, you would be better off taking a zinc tab and a magnesium tab, or getting it from food!

they still sale zma today.

Dont believe me? Get the book. Pretty good read on steroids, Patrick Arnold, Conte, and Bonds

[Greenegorilla2]

Yea zinc Md magnesium work for your body to do a number of things but can also throw your natural Mineral balance off. Thanks for the heads up tho.

[exphys88]

Most supps are placebos, w no scientific backing. Not all, but most.

[FastTrack]

http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance_interviews/sports_nutrition_smackdown;jsessionid=448BF477C485 2C5E6FB62D83547D59EE-mcd02.hydra

[Greenegorilla2]

I only stick to the basics.

[rocco-x]

it's a known fact that the nutrition/supplement industry is one of the top ranking money makers along with pharmacuetical meds and the illegal drug trade.people just want it more faster,quicker,mo' better than they think they can get thru proper diet.protein,creatine,pre-workout drinks and maybe some N.O. is as far as i go.i tell all my guys that ask me for advice...stay away from muscle rags and GNC type of places.just out for the money.

anyone remember the miracle powder HotStuff...?! what a total farce pushed by that midget Steve Brisbois.

[2nd2no1]

Most supps are placebos, w no scientific backing. Not all, but most.

Total agree very big scam

[jdb3]

i got some old bodybuilding magazines from 89-95...you should see the ads! "HMB has been cllinically proven to raise testosterone in male atheletes" "Creatine might possibly be greater than illegal steroids" Chromium Picolnate will loweer estro levels and boost metabolic rate to make you the alpha male! LOL

[drednought]

Supps have been shitty since "prohormones" were pulled. 3 of the greatest supps: transdermal 4AD, 4OHT & oral M1T were the real deal. I would kill to get raws of 4AD/4OHT :)

[swinging_away]

http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance_interviews/sports_nutrition_smackdown;jsessionid=448BF477C485 2C5E6FB62D83547D59EE-mcd02.hydra

Bro you're always pulling info right out of thin air

[af86]

Lol midget?..

[slash75cmd]

I remember taking ZMA about ten years or so after I saw Victor Conte posing with Barry Bonds and some other guy in some magazine article. The article was about the BALCO brand ZMA that he was pushing. I used it as directed and never saw (or felt) the results that Barry got from the stuff. I know that people get fooled into thinking that the magazine models get their results from the supplement that they are paid to represent, but I'm embarrassed to say that I spent tons of money thinking that those supplements would give me similar physical and health results like the dudes in the muscle mags. All that money could have gone to other stuff (e.g.- test enth, mast p, anavar, whinny, etc.). Thank goodness for that movie Bigger, Stronger, Faster because it exposed the marketing and quality of supplements in one of the segments. Better late than never.

[jdb3]

yeah...victor was giving him gh and test....but they just told everyone ZMA. Read the book its great. "Game of Shadows"

[slash75cmd]

yeah...victor was giving him gh and test....but they just told everyone ZMA. Read the book its great. "Game of Shadows"

I've been wanting to download it to my Nook. Will do.

[slinsane]

ZMA might not increase HGH but it makes me sleep really deep

[jdb3]

ZMA might not increase HGH but it makes me sleep really deep

thats about all it will do.....you will 100% better off taking a zinc, and magnesium supplemental...save alot of money too

[builtstrong]

That's kinda all it did for me was made me sleepy

[phfreak]

I tried ZMA once and noticed no difference.

[jurgensplurgen]

i love the supplement industry trick of bindi ng two ingredients into a salt then calling it a new compound. like it doesnt just seperate in water anyway.