Which are easiest/hardest on hair?

[rocknroll]

Which compounds, injectable and oral, are easiest/mildest on hair and which are most harsh in your opinion?

Also, is it a given that the more androgenic the more harsh it is likely to be in hair loss?

Would love to see a ranking of injectables and ranking of orals from mildest to harshest.

[JohnMcc]

Everyone reacts differently, but in general your DHT derivatives or 5a reduced derivatives will be harsher on hair loss. Things like masteron, Primo, winny, Var, or even high dose test if you naturally convert to a large degree into DHT.

[rocknroll]

Thank you. I suspect it’s the test then that’s hitting me hard not the EQ.

[rocknroll]

Follow up, what are 5A reduced? I take dutasteride which is a 5A reductase inhibitor? So which compounds are 5A reductase contributors? They’re different than DHT derivatives?

[JohnMcc]

Follow up, what are 5A reduced? I take dutasteride which is a 5A reductase inhibitor? So which compounds are 5A reductase contributors? They’re different than DHT derivatives?

5a reductase is the process that converts test into DHT, EQ into DHB, etc. Your dutasteride will keep your test from converting which should help with the hair loss.

[rocknroll]

5a reductase is the process that converts test into DHT, EQ into DHB, etc. Your dutasteride will keep your test from converting which should help with the hair loss.

Ok…I normally do 500-600 test and 600-600 EQ/weekly when on cycle. So in your opinion, for on cycle do you think I’d be ok to keep test at TRT level (200mg/week) but still have EQ at 500-600 since it’s probably the test causing hair loss even on dutasteride?

I think I’ve seen recommendations that say EQ and test need to be roughly the same…to not have EQ be too much different of a ratio to test…can’t recall why…any thoughts on this? Thanks

[JohnMcc]

Ok…I normally do 500-600 test and 600-600 EQ/weekly when on cycle. So in your opinion, for on cycle do you think I’d be ok to keep test at TRT level (200mg/week) but still have EQ at 500-600 since it’s probably the test causing hair loss even on dutasteride?

I think I’ve seen recommendations that say EQ and test need to be roughly the same…to not have EQ be too much different of a ratio to test…can’t recall why…any thoughts on this? Thanks

I guess it would depend on your overall goal, if you're a guy just doing it to look decent then minimal effective doses because why risk your health for vanity? If you're trying to get step on stage BBing amounts of muscle you'll run higher doses or a healthy dose of TRT and with other anabolic compounds stacked on top. In general I don't see why dropping to 200mg with that dose of EQ wouldn't still yield good gainz if your training and diet are on par.

[Jaxz]

I'd say eq is really for bulking it makes me hungry as hell.

If ur worried about your hair I'd say put down aas all together. It's doesn't cause it to fall out it just speeds up the process . Question to be jacked or have hair . I'd say shave it and be jacked but that's me lol.
Eq needs to ran at higher does to really shine and ran for 20 weeks in my opinion . Now for I think running test lower should be a problem as long as u don't run into dick issues.

[Sachie]

I’m like you Jaxz! I eat like a horse. I wonder if that has to do with what it was originally for lmao
I shave my head and hear all the time I look like the rock. I choose jacked every time. Just like when my balls get tiny after a long period. I don’t give a fuck because my dick is still big. I was concerned one time and my girlfriend said “I’m not fucking your balls” stay big mother fucker. I said ok baby.
I ran EQ for 25 weeks before. It takes like 7-9 weeks to even start working, at least on me. But Fuck I ran Tren for 25 weeks before as well because I’m a fucking nutt-job and I’m the conductor on the Tren Train babe-ee. But I also watch all my shit with my doctor.
Three things I’d take year round. HGH, Anavar and EQ.
What I am concerned about is estrogen and lumps. I keep Arimidex and Letro on hand and check myself weekly. I recommend doing the same as well.

I'd say eq is really for bulking it makes me hungry as hell.

If ur worried about your hair I'd say put down aas all together. It's doesn't cause it to fall out it just speeds up the process . Question to be jacked or have hair . I'd say shave it and be jacked but that's me lol.
Eq needs to ran at higher does to really shine and ran for 20 weeks in my opinion . Now for I think running test lower should be a problem as long as u don't run into dick issues.

[Devil1]

In my personal experience..

high test dose = little hair thinning
deca = it’s clogging the drain
EQ = where did all this hair come from?! (Like I grow more hair)

but why does the test make me grow hair on my lats in weird little patches??? :(

[rocknroll]

I guess it would depend on your overall goal, if you're a guy just doing it to look decent then minimal effective doses because why risk your health for vanity? If you're trying to get step on stage BBing amounts of muscle you'll run higher doses or a healthy dose of TRT and with other anabolic compounds stacked on top. In general I don't see why dropping to 200mg with that dose of EQ wouldn't still yield good gainz if your training and diet are on par.

yeah that’d be me..looking for minimal effective dose…I’m 54…not overly risky. Thanks

[rocknroll]

I guess it would depend on your overall goal, if you're a guy just doing it to look decent then minimal effective doses because why risk your health for vanity? If you're trying to get step on stage BBing amounts of muscle you'll run higher doses or a healthy dose of TRT and with other anabolic compounds stacked on top. In general I don't see why dropping to 200mg with that dose of EQ wouldn't still yield good gainz if your training and diet are on par.

yeah that’d be me..looking for minimal effective dose…I’m 54…not overly risky right now….Thanks!

[rocknroll]

In my personal experience..

high test dose = little hair thinning
deca = it’s clogging the drain
EQ = where did all this hair come from?! (Like I grow more hair)

but why does the test make me grow hair on my lats in weird little patches??? :(

haha. No idea. That’s crazy. Never heard of that on…everyone’s different I guess ����*♂️����*♂️����*♂️

[Sachie]

yeah that’d be me..looking for minimal effective dose…I’m 54…not overly risky. Thanks

800mg a week is a safe dose
Run it for at least 12-15 weeks
Very safe even at your age.
Im 45 and I do 1200mg and fine at the Dr’s
about to do 900mg for 25-30 weeks and 100mg cypinate
It’s crazy but works for me but I’ll do Dbol with it the first 8-10weeks and towards the end do 8-10 weeks of Anavar.
I’ll check for lumps every week and if my nipples get to sensitive I’ll take some Arimidex for 2-3 weeks twice a week.
I’ll get bloodwork done twice in 6 months.

[JohnMcc]

yeah that’d be me..looking for minimal effective dose…I’m 54…not overly risky. Thanks

Have a good cycle brother

[rocknroll]

I'd say eq is really for bulking it makes me hungry as hell.

If ur worried about your hair I'd say put down aas all together. It's doesn't cause it to fall out it just speeds up the process . Question to be jacked or have hair . I'd say shave it and be jacked but that's me lol.
Eq needs to ran at higher does to really shine and ran for 20 weeks in my opinion . Now for I think running test lower should be a problem as long as u don't run into dick issues.

thanks jaxz…I understand just accepting baldness as part of the deal like most choose, I’m just not there, at least not yet haha… and would prefer to protect if possible.

[rocknroll]

800mg a week is a safe dose
Run it for at least 12-15 weeks
Very safe even at your age.
Im 45 and I do 1200mg and fine at the Dr’s
about to do 900mg for 25-30 weeks and 100mg cypinate
It’s crazy but works for me but I’ll do Dbol with it the first 8-10weeks and towards the end do 8-10 weeks of Anavar.
I’ll check for lumps every week and if my nipples get to sensitive I’ll take some Arimidex for 2-3 weeks twice a week.
I’ll get bloodwork done twice in 6 months.


dang bro…so you don’t more than 100 cyp test with the EQ….that’s Awesome …that’s what I want to try.

Why don’t you do more test, just curious. Seems the default standard is to have the larger test base.

also, do you get any paranoia or anxiety with the EQ?

[Sachie]

dang bro…so you don’t more than 100 cyp test with the EQ….that’s Awesome …that’s what I want to try.

Why don’t you do more test, just curious. Seems the default standard is to have the larger test base.

also, do you get any paranoia or anxiety with the EQ?

I fucked up lol 1,000-1,200