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Reps23
12-23-2023, 10:42 AM
So I'm off work for a couple weeks for the Christmas holidays and Friday I started a cycle using 400 mgs test per week 150 NPP EOD 100 mast prop EOD dbol 50mg a day split into 3 doses and adex EOD. I will only run the dbol for 14 days until I go back to work as it shoots my blood pressure up and I can monitor it and keep it under control better while I'm off. I had a couple guys tell me not to use too much test but I was always taught to run your test dose double your nandrolone dose because of it's suppressive nature. So obviously with the NPP at 150 and the test at 400 it's not double so I'm wondering if I am good or should I up the test? If all goes well I will run the test/NPP /mast prop for 90 days. Any feedback appreciated 👍

unclemoney
12-23-2023, 04:11 PM
There's no golden ratio of test to nandrolone in my opinion... it's all about how you individually respond to the compounds. Old thought used to say the 2:1 ratio of test to nandrolone(I did such back in the day when that was the prevailing thought)... I've also tried running them at the same dosage as well as high nandrolone and low test... it's really up to how you personally respond.

So I'd say you're fine so long as you so deem it to be, there's no golden numbers... just how you personally respond.

Loomer1
12-26-2023, 03:28 PM
Unclemoney said it perfectly. I've also tried it every way. I did get deca dick running my nandrolone a lot higher than my test. So that ways a no go for me. You're probably good 2 go with those doses. The mast will help keep estrogen down slightly.
Not sure how many cycles you've done but I'm assuming you're not new to this. So if anything I'd up the test to 500 a week. Personally I'd never run a blast with less than that. Other than that looks solid to me.

Reps23
12-29-2023, 07:14 PM
That's what I think it looks pretty good. Only thing new to me is the adex I usually just use nolvadex for estrogen but my boy had some adex and I'm reading .5 twice a week or .5 EOD ? Which is best with this stuff? Thnx guys

Devil1
12-29-2023, 08:19 PM
That's what I think it looks pretty good. Only thing new to me is the adex I usually just use nolvadex for estrogen but my boy had some adex and I'm reading .5 twice a week or .5 EOD ? Which is best with this stuff? Thnx guys

I always take anti e as needed, you can easily take too much. I’ve been running for years and rarely need it but everyone is different, got find your sweet spot. Just like deca, I do great on it, run it most of the year, cruising or blasting, never had deca dick before, but I keep my test slightly higher at all times. Example, deca 250 a week, test 325. On a blast I might run 500/750 deca/cyp. I love deca.

Mr.Smith45
12-30-2023, 01:32 AM
So I'm off work for a couple weeks for the Christmas holidays and Friday I started a cycle using 400 mgs test per week 150 NPP EOD 100 mast prop EOD dbol 50mg a day split into 3 doses and adex EOD. I will only run the dbol for 14 days until I go back to work as it shoots my blood pressure up and I can monitor it and keep it under control better while I'm off. I had a couple guys tell me not to use too much test but I was always taught to run your test dose double your nandrolone dose because of it's suppressive nature. So obviously with the NPP at 150 and the test at 400 it's not double so I'm wondering if I am good or should I up the test? If all goes well I will run the test/NPP /mast prop for 90 days. Any feedback appreciated 

Is my math wrong, it looks like your Deca is more than your Test? Deca@ 150mg EOD is roughly 450mg./wk. I would run Test higher than Deca, if your estro gets out of whack, too high or low, it takes a while to rectify. GENERALLY, if you were running Test@ 500mg./wk, you could run Adex 2x/wk, at your dose of Test it could be too much, especially with the Mast. Everyone is different, make sure you run bloods.

Loomer1
12-30-2023, 04:03 PM
That's what I think it looks pretty good. Only thing new to me is the adex I usually just use nolvadex for estrogen but my boy had some adex and I'm reading .5 twice a week or .5 EOD ? Which is best with this stuff? Thnx guys

So a few things, only use nolva for PCT. It's not meant to control estrogen. It only blocks estrogen from binding to the receptors in your pecs and brain. It won't lower total estro on bloodwork. Also it can lower igf-1. Oh yeah, and the only time you run nolva on cycle is if you start to see or feel the beginning of gyno. Then you'd run it to get it under control then stop use and switch to asin or adex.
As per a trt doc, rule of thumb is .25mg adex the day after pinning 100-125mg test. So if you pinned 250mg you'd take .5mg the day after. But personally that was even too much for me. I never run an ai on anything. A lot of us actually dont need it.

unclemoney
01-01-2024, 01:34 AM
I'd recommend trying out no AI and see how you do, I don't run any AI at all but dbol definitely nips me up though we're all different so maybe you won't even need any. Don't forget estrogen helps build muscle and is neuroprotective as well as good for the joints... AI usage makes me feel extra arthritic and I'm already that to begin with so I don't want to compound that not to mention other sides that you'd rather avoid.

The less drugs you're on, the better... that's my thought at least... I don't like to create a system where I take this thing to counteract that thing to counteract another thing, then you're in a shitstorm and not sure where things went wrong. (I've done it and lesson learned lmao).

murph
01-01-2024, 03:18 PM
Your NPP is 150 a week or 150 EOD? I run Test at 500 and NPP 450 as well and fine that to be a good ratio

Reps23
01-05-2024, 12:47 PM
I dropped the dianabol. I haven't used the stuff since I was young I just happened to get some for free my source sent me by mistake. So right now I'm doing 600 test-cyp per week 150 NPP EOD and 100mg mast prop EOD. So far so good trying to really watch my diet take in plenty of water and get enough sleep. Really strong right now and stronger every time I go to the gym. I really like this stack. I might add some winstrol in a month or so after the other compounds are kicked in all the way. I did drop the AI after quit using dbol. We'll see what happens