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beanlicker
05-06-2013, 01:32 AM
By Rachael Rettner, MyHealthNewsDaily Senior Writer | LiveScience.com – Fri, Apr 12, 2013

The Food and Drug Administration is warning to consumers not to buy dietary supplements containing the ingredient dimethylamylamine, or DMAA.

The strongly worded warning from the agency, which calls the DMAA illegal, is the first to explicitly caution consumers about the ingredient, experts say.

DMAA, most commonly found in supplements promoted for helping muscle-building and weight loss, can increase blood pressure, and may cause shortness of breath, irregular heartbeat and heart attacks, the FDA says.

The warning comes after the FDA sent letters to 11 companies last year, asking them to stop making and selling products containing DMAA. Since then, all but one of the companies has complied, the FDA said.

In its previous letters, the FDA questioned the legality of DMAA, while in this new warning, the agency is "crystal clear that it is illegal," said Dr. Pieter Cohen, an assistant professor of medicine at Harvard Medical School and a general internist at Cambridge Health Alliance in Boston.

The company that did not comply, USPlabs, makes the DMAA-containing supplements Oxy Elite Pro and Jack3D. To challenge the FDA's actions, USPlabs submitted studies to the agency attempting to show that the products are safe, but in the new warning, the FDA says the studies are insufficient to support the sale of these products. The FDA is working on a response to USPlabs, and will work to close the issue, the FDA said.

Also last year, the U.S. military removed supplements containing DMAA supplements from stores on its bases while it investigated whether the supplement was tied to the deaths of two soldiers.

Despite these previous investigations, this is the first time the FDA is directly warning consumers about the hazards of DMAA, Cohen said.

"[It's] an unacceptable delay that’s placed consumers in harm's way," Cohen said, noting that DMAA-containing supplements have been sold since 2007.

The FDA has received 60 reports of illnesses and deaths linked to supplements containing DMAA, although these reports cannot prove that the supplements were the cause of the health problems, the agency said.

Unlike medical drugs and devices, dietary supplements do not require FDA approval before they are sold to consumers. (Companies that sell supplements to not need to provide proof of their safety and efficacy.) The FDA regulates supplements only after they enter the market, and must undertake lengthy steps to remove a product it deems unsafe, the FDA said.

"The law is such that it really creates a difficult situation for the FDA," Cohen said.

Because it takes the FDA so long to take action on a single ingredient, it give companies plenty of time to come up with new ingredients to add to their products, which also may not be safe, Cohen said.

"This development gives us no reassurance that, overall, supplements are safer today than they were last year," Cohen said.

Consumers who want to buy supplements should stick with vitamins and minerals, or single-ingredient supplements, Cohen said. They should look for supplements that have been certified by the U.S. Pharmacopeial Convention (USP) or NSF International, which can provide reassurance that the products contain the proper dosage of ingredients, and don't contain illegal ingredients, Cohen said.

Although some supplement makers say that DMAA is found naturally in geraniums, there's not reliable scientific evidence showing that the ingredient is found in plants. The ingredient used in marketed supplements is synthetic.

ErikGearhead
05-06-2013, 02:33 AM
People with heart problems that abuse stimulants die.

Dumb people kill themselves off, and this is part of how we progress as a species...

Maybe that's too harsh...idk...

Gopro
05-06-2013, 02:39 AM
Its a cousin drug to MDMA, have used it as a substitute for Molly.

Greenegorilla2
05-07-2013, 10:11 PM
Hmm never used it I don't think.

Ttownmudder
05-07-2013, 11:27 PM
It was the best ingridient in a lot of pre workouts I loved it and then people abuse it just like ephedra and die and then we have 1 less decent supplement/herb on the market

pulooooooo
05-08-2013, 12:36 AM
These companies will come out with something to substitute it..

Hybrid
05-08-2013, 12:21 PM
The c4 I used had this stuff in it,had the c4 without it,it was worthless,1,3 dimethyl wtf ever its called is bad ass,and clean if used right and sparingly.

toppjimie
05-08-2013, 12:41 PM
Its a cousin drug to MDMA, have used it as a substitute for Molly.

That bath salt shit is FUCKED UP!!

af86
05-08-2013, 12:57 PM
No more noxipro? Noooooo guess ill just have to start
Blasting 2ml of test no ester before the gym!

srilankanmuscle
05-09-2013, 08:42 PM
I built up a tolerance to this stuff pretty quickly, hopefully the next compund they introduce will not be the same.

TexxGearsRep
05-09-2013, 09:24 PM
I never liked this supplement it showed too many signs of a dependency developing.

beanlicker
05-09-2013, 10:39 PM
GOP questions stimulant use in dietary supplements

By Elise Viebeck - 05/08/13 04:13 PM ET


The House Energy and Commerce Committee is launching an inquiry into a potentially dangerous stimulant used in dietary supplements sold by General Nutrition Centers (GNC).

Top lawmakers on the committee sent a series of letters (http://energycommerce.house.gov/letter/letters-regarding-dmaa) Wednesday to federal regulators, GNC and USPlabs, maker of a dietary supplement known as Jack3d.

The powder is marketed as a workout enhancer and contains dimethylamylamine, a synthetic drug linked to several deaths.

In a warning last month, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) urged consumers to avoid supplements containing dimethylamylamine, or DMAA, because the drug could trigger heart problems.

GOP lawmakers are now asking why USPlabs continues to use DMAA in Jack3d, and why GNC is still selling the supplement.

Reps. Tim Murphy (R-Pa.), Joe Barton (R-Texas) and Michael Burgess (R-Texas) also asked the FDA to detail its efforts to remove DMAA products from the market.

"The agency said that 'FDA can also take a seizure action to remove the products from the market or obtain an injunction against a company to prevent it from manufacturing and distributing illegal products,'" the lawmakers wrote.

"That being said, as of May 7, 2013, USPlabs continues to market Jack3d and General Nutrition Centers, Inc. continues to sell it."

Lawyers for USPlabs have said (http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/13/business/fda-issues-warning-on-workout-booster.html?_r=0) DMAA is legal, and that the company should be allowed to use it.

Baited
05-13-2013, 07:58 PM
I bought a bottle of dmaa pills and caffeine pills. I don't use them all the time but I loved the original jack3d. I only take them off cycle on random days.


I heard people were doing higher doses to get off (like posted above, similar to MDMA) but I haven't tried that yet. Maybe if I get bored this weekend. I've only done 20mg with 200mg caffeine pill.

Gopro
05-13-2013, 08:18 PM
That bath salt shit is FUCKED UP!!

It ain't nothing like Bath salts. Never tried them and there is a reason for that.