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jurgensplurgen
06-03-2013, 07:12 PM
made up a small batch of test e and eq the other night from new source material. a little under 3percent BA, a little over 20percent BB. Used a coffee maker for heat, and soybean oil from the kitchen as a carrier. The increased BB made it SO easy to filter through a. 22, with a 10ml syringe I was done with the whole process in less than an hour. Now as long as i dont get an abcess in the next couple weeks ill try to work up enough capital to get more than a "sample size".

Gopro
06-03-2013, 09:29 PM
Soy bean oil? Have you shot any yet? Was it smooth?

4everstrong
06-04-2013, 12:33 AM
Never heard of anyone using soy bean oil..

jurgensplurgen
06-04-2013, 01:44 AM
it was very smooth, any food grade oil will work fine, ive even seen guys have plenty of success with olive oil. its just about haviny a thin viscosity. some people swear one oil over another gives them more or less pip, but even in the same type of oil it can very greatly from brand to brand. essentially oils that are highly filtered and processed will have less other irritating material in them (though theoretically the filter should be taking care of that) and be shelf stable for longer. I was debating between gso and the soy because we had both, but the gso was some expeller pressed organic shit, which upon some research realized is more likely to go rancid and have microorganisms present. so i decided to try out the crisco.
And it was a small batch, but i was very pleased with how easy it was to push through, no broken filters, refrigerated one vial to see if it would crash in cooler weather but it held fine.
I really need to getba better set up, but ive never made more than enough for a cycle or two at a time yet, usually just for a friend as what ive had from sponsors and othet members has had me tied over for a long while.

4everstrong
06-04-2013, 05:08 AM
it was very smooth, any food grade oil will work fine, ive even seen guys have plenty of success with olive oil. its just about haviny a thin viscosity. some people swear one oil over another gives them more or less pip, but even in the same type of oil it can very greatly from brand to brand. essentially oils that are highly filtered and processed will have less other irritating material in them (though theoretically the filter should be taking care of that) and be shelf stable for longer. I was debating between gso and the soy because we had both, but the gso was some expeller pressed organic shit, which upon some research realized is more likely to go rancid and have microorganisms present. so i decided to try out the crisco.
And it was a small batch, but i was very pleased with how easy it was to push through, no broken filters, refrigerated one vial to see if it would crash in cooler weather but it held fine.
I really need to getba better set up, but ive never made more than enough for a cycle or two at a time yet, usually just for a friend as what ive had from sponsors and othet members has had me tied over for a long while.

So you just buy your oil from a store like walmart?

Gopro
06-04-2013, 05:38 AM
Sounds cheap but dont know if i would go this route myself. But if it works for ya, more power to ya!!!!

jurgensplurgen
06-04-2013, 06:35 AM
Yeah. There isnt really any need for presterilized usp oil. Also almost all vegetable oil is really soybean oil, calling it "vegetable oil" is a marketing tactic to make it sound more healthy. Cooking oil is usually already heavily filtered, processed, and heated to kill contaminants.. because less of that shit means a longer shelf life, and a long shelf life translates into more profit for the manufacturer. Filter with a. 22, you can heat the oil much higher than 200degrees prior to brewing (but below its smoke point) to make sure you kill anything else in it, and your result will be as sterile as ordering it from a website that just runs food oil through a filter anyway, and far cheaper.
also the nutrition content of the oil doesnt matter, thats bro science. fats need to be emulsified and broken down before they can be absorbed across cellular membrane and made bioavailable. this is normally done by bile in the gi tract. Your body will break down and dispose of the oil in your injection site, but you will be getting very little in terms of health benefits from it.. and generally the healthier oils go rancid faster, not a desirable quality in your product.
so long story short... try out the cheap stuff as long as it looks nice and thin with good clarity. If you really dont like it move up in price from there, but every guy ive known or read who moved from ordering usp grapeseed oil to trying wesson.. never went back.

Gopro
06-04-2013, 07:11 AM
^^fucking nice to know. Make home brews cheaper for me man. Thanks for the info!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

jurgensplurgen
06-04-2013, 08:55 AM
im happy with it so far, shot my test e in one delt, and Digitals prop in the other, couldn't tell the difference.
I also liked using the coffee maker as a heat source, it got hot enough to mix everything effectively without having to screw with the stove, and didnt have to worry about it getting too hot, or having water vapor condense and get into the oil (for those using the hot water method)
no glass stir rod, swirling gently worked well enough.

Smoove
06-04-2013, 02:12 PM
That's excellent. You found what works for you. I tell you I got one of those coffee cup warming plates and I put 3 vials on it, watch 1 3-4 minute porn clip, draw the oil up and shoot, massage and rarely have pip no matter the oil. I stick with safflower oil myself.

Good job and good info!

jurgensplurgen
06-04-2013, 02:46 PM
hah it was you I read about using the coffee hotplate from! I couldnt remember where id heard it from, but i was wiping down the stove to get ready and saw the tiny coffee pot that I never use, and thought: oh shit, thats perfect and makes logistical sense, now where did I get that idea? oh yeah, must just be my natty smarts, right?

Smoove
06-04-2013, 03:02 PM
Lol

sensitivenips
06-04-2013, 03:35 PM
That's excellent. You found what works for you. I tell you I got one of those coffee cup warming plates and I put 3 vials on it, watch 1 3-4 minute porn clip, draw the oil up and shoot, massage and rarely have pip no matter the oil. I stick with safflower oil myself.

Good job and good info!

nice tip for heating oil man, never thought about using the ole coffee pot for more than just coffee and tea. good stuff!