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      Bitcoin could cost us our clean-energy future | Grist

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      Bitcoin could cost us our clean-energy future

      By*Eric Holthauson*Dec 5, 2017

      If you’re like me, you’ve probably been ignoring the bitcoin phenomenon for years — because it seemed too complex, far-fetched, or maybe even too libertarian. But if you have any interest in a future where the world moves beyond fossil fuels, you and I should both start paying attention now.

      Last week, the value of a single bitcoin broke the $10,000 barrier for the first time. Over the weekend, the price nearly hit $12,000. At the beginning of this year, it was less than $1,000.

      If you had bought $100 in bitcoin back in 2011, your investment*would be worth*nearly $4 million today. All over the internet there are stories of people who treated their friends to lunch a few years ago and, as a novelty,*paid with bitcoin. Those same people are now realizing that if they’d just paid in cash and held onto their digital currency, they’d now have enough money to buy a house.


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      That sort of precipitous rise is stunning, of course, but bitcoin wasn’t intended to be an investment instrument. Its creators envisioned it as a replacement for money itself — a decentralized, secure, anonymous method fortransferring value between people.

      But what they might not have accounted for is how much of an energy suck the computer network behind bitcoin could one day become.*Simply put, bitcoin is slowing the effort to achieve a rapid transition away from fossil fuels. What’s more, this is just the beginning. Given its rapidly growing climate footprint, bitcoin is a malignant development, and it’s getting worse.

      Cryptocurrencies like bitcoin provide a unique service: Financial transactions that don’t require governments to issue currency or banks to process payments. Writing*in the Atlantic, Derek Thompson calls bitcoin an “ingenious and potentially transformative technology” that the entire economy could be built on — the currency equivalent of the internet. Some are even speculating that bitcoin could someday*make the U.S. dollar obsolete.

      But the rise of bitcoin is also happening at a specific moment in history: Humanity is*decades behind schedule*on counteracting climate change, and every action in this era should be evaluated on its net impact on the climate. Increasingly, bitcoin is failing the test.

      Digital financial transactions come with a real-world price: The tremendous growth of cryptocurrencies has created an*exponential demand for computing power. As bitcoin grows, the math problems computers must solve to make more bitcoin (a process called “mining”) get*more and more difficult*— a wrinkle designed to control the currency’s supply.

      Today, each bitcoin transaction requires the same amount of energy used to power*nine homes in the U.S. for one day. And miners are constantly installing more and faster computers. Already, the aggregate computing power of the bitcoin network is*nearly 100,000 times larger*than the world’s 500 fastest supercomputers combined.

      The total energy use of this web of hardware is huge — an estimated*31 terawatt-hours*per year. More than*150 individual countries in the world*consume less energy annually. And that power-hungry network is currently increasing its energy use every day by about 450 gigawatt-hours, roughly the same amount of electricity the entire country of Haiti uses in a year.

      That sort of electricity use is pulling energy from grids all over the world, where it could be charging electric vehicles and powering homes, to bitcoin-mining farms. In Venezuela, where rampant hyperinflation and subsidized electricity has led to*a boom in bitcoin mining, rogue operations are now occasionally*causing blackouts*across the country. The world’s largest bitcoin mines*are in China, where they siphon energy from huge hydroelectric dams, some of the cheapest sources of carbon-free energy in the world. One enterprising Tesla owner even*attempted to rig up a mining operation in his car, to make use of free electricity at a public charging station.

      In just a few months from now, at bitcoin’s current growth rate, the electricity demanded by the cryptocurrency network will start to outstrip what’s available, requiring new energy-generating plants. And with the climate conscious racing to replace fossil fuel-base plants with renewable energy sources, new stress on the grid means more facilities using dirty technologies. By July 2019, the bitcoin network will require more electricity than the entire United States currently uses. By February 2020, it will use as much electricity as the entire world does today.

      This is an unsustainable trajectory. It simply can’t continue.

      There are already*several efforts underway*to reform how the bitcoin network processes transactions, with the hope that it’ll one day require less electricity to make new coins. But as with other technological advances likeirrigation in agriculture*and*outdoor LED lighting, more efficient systems for mining bitcoin could have the effect of attracting thousands of new miners.

      It’s certain that the increasing energy burden of bitcoin transactions will divert progress from electrifying the world and reducing global carbon emissions. In fact, I’d guess it probably already has. The only question at this point is: by how much?

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      Bitcoin is going to cause climate change? Snowflakes sure are creative. How much power is consumed from people reading WAPO's site? What about the pollution and power consumed in connection to the printing of the toilet paper they call a newspaper?

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      Quote Originally Posted by curtisg35 View Post
      Bitcoin is going to cause climate change? Snowflakes sure are creative. How much power is consumed from people reading WAPO's site? What about the pollution and power consumed in connection to the printing of the toilet paper they call a newspaper?
      Hey dude i dont know if youre calling me a fucking snowflake oe wtf ever, i just posted it because i never even thought about that particular aspect of it.
      I don't find it hard to believe there's a huge energy consumption though.

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      Quote Originally Posted by lokthai View Post
      Hey dude i dont know if youre calling me a fucking snowflake oe wtf ever, i just posted it because i never even thought about that particular aspect of it.
      I don't find it hard to believe there's a huge energy consumption though.

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      He meant the news article.

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      Quote Originally Posted by lokthai View Post
      Hey dude i dont know if youre calling me a fucking snowflake oe wtf ever, i just posted it because i never even thought about that particular aspect of it.
      I don't find it hard to believe there's a huge energy consumption though.

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      I was commenting on the "news article", the Washington Post and the writer. I know nothing about you besides the fact that your screename is lokthai.

      Was basically sharing my opinion on how anything the left doesn't like is either racist or going to lead to the end of the world.

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      Ok. I just know the right can be just as bad pointing their finger and screaming "BURN THE WITCH!!!" at the first sign of ANY disagreement.
      I think the stupidity of the liberal thinking has far surpassed any logical rational thinking. But both sides seem to operate on "herd mentality" ie. I believe whats inside of this box and outside is satan/the adversary...the goddamn devil.
      I was locked up with the most evil murderers on the planet, but they often made more sense than the so called rational and kind.
      I think independently. I may agree with someone but only in part.
      I was locked away before and rode solo: thoughbo did make money as an intermediary on products.
      I'll defend what i believe is true and real before any fucking ideals of a group.
      Humans are pack animals looking for a group of their "look " and way of thinking. Akways looking for back pats of acceptance.
      They're often to ballness cowardly souless fucks to separate from their chosen herd when shit is not right because they identify as the herd. To be an individual is naked on a stage.
      As for me- if a 100 million people are eating dogshit calling it steak while pointing the finger at me as the fool for calling it the shit it is- it will still be shit and theyll still be fools..however when in Rome... But only to live another day to crush and conquer the goddamn idiocy ....

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