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Best Stack for Strength and Mass?
Hey guys, after a few cycles I've decided to focus on cutting down, and as I do that, I plan on cycling next winter and put on quality size and hopefully gain some strength.
That being said, what is your take on the best AA's for strength, size, both? I've used dbol twice but have never ventured into anadrol, I know many compare the two.
Tell me what you think.
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Hey brother,
Great question! Not sure if you are just asking about dbol and Anadrol but I have a few suggestions;
Strength gains can be gained from a pretty simple stack of Test, Tren (can't emphasis Tren enough because it increases strength like crazy and reaction time. That's what Barry Bonds and the other homerun kings of late are on...makes you super fast = strength increases), and Mast...I know mast seems unlikely but it works synergistically with the other two compounds. Adding an oral as well like dbol or Anadrol at the beginning for 4 weeks will really help jump start your gains- strength and mass, but due to the liver toxicity you really gotta stick to the 4 weeks.
Me personally if I'm gonna take a highly liver toxic oral I would take Superdrol. Shit is powerful and IMO a better strength gainer than both the other two I mentioned. Less water weight gains too. Pure muscle. There are a bunch of newer "prohormones" like DMX, Trest or Ment, etc. That all work amazingly for strength and mass gains.
A lot of sources have injectable Ment, Trest, and my personal favorite for good strength gains (especially when Stacked with other compounds, another and maybe one of the best synergistic steroids to date) and HUGE mass increases is 1-Test Cyp. You should really research this one along with Ment or Trestolone acetate, not for the faint of heart but it has been compared to a super strong Tren Ace crossed with Superdrol! If that doesn't say enough then maybe it's 2300/650 Anabolic to Androgenic ratio will. Massive gains in strength and size (hard vascular size).
Hope this helps. And again this is IMO please do your own research. Talk to someone on the boards that is a Rep. Xsbobber really knows his stuff.
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Originally Posted by
skaar
Hey brother,
Great question! Not sure if you are just asking about dbol and Anadrol but I have a few suggestions;
Strength gains can be gained from a pretty simple stack of Test, Tren (can't emphasis Tren enough because it increases strength like crazy and reaction time. That's what Barry Bonds and the other homerun kings of late are on...makes you super fast = strength increases), and Mast...I know mast seems unlikely but it works synergistically with the other two compounds. Adding an oral as well like dbol or Anadrol at the beginning for 4 weeks will really help jump start your gains- strength and mass, but due to the liver toxicity you really gotta stick to the 4 weeks.
Me personally if I'm gonna take a highly liver toxic oral I would take Superdrol. Shit is powerful and IMO a better strength gainer than both the other two I mentioned. Less water weight gains too. Pure muscle. There are a bunch of newer "prohormones" like DMX, Trest or Ment, etc. That all work amazingly for strength and mass gains.
A lot of sources have injectable Ment, Trest, and my personal favorite for good strength gains (especially when Stacked with other compounds, another and maybe one of the best synergistic steroids to date) and HUGE mass increases is 1-Test Cyp. You should really research this one along with Ment or Trestolone acetate, not for the faint of heart but it has been compared to a super strong Tren Ace crossed with Superdrol! If that doesn't say enough then maybe it's 2300/650 Anabolic to Androgenic ratio will. Massive gains in strength and size (hard vascular size).
Hope this helps. And again this is IMO please do your own research. Talk to someone on the boards that is a Rep. Xsbobber really knows his stuff.
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Thank you for the great info, I'll definitely be researching the above in the the future. As for tren, I've been trying to hold off on until test cycles stop working as efficiently. Perhaps the upcoming future is the time. I'll research something like:
Tren ace (or maybe cyp to match the test ester)
test cyp
superdrol first 4 weeks
(perhaps mast prop, depends how I would lay out the cycle)
Winny / Anavar / Clen last 4 weeks (for clen 2 on 2 off 2x)
crazy strength, and mass and then good hardening/ water losing helpers. Maybe do 4-8 weeks of tren and finish off with the orals to deal with the liver toxicity and sides. I've run mast prop before and it's worked alright and wasn't harsh at all, barely any sides. Thanks for the reply man, tell me what your thoughts are.
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Originally Posted by
Hyde
Thank you for the great info, I'll definitely be researching the above in the the future. As for tren, I've been trying to hold off on until test cycles stop working as efficiently. Perhaps the upcoming future is the time. I'll research something like:
Tren ace (or maybe cyp to match the test ester)
test cyp
superdrol first 4 weeks
(perhaps mast prop, depends how I would lay out the cycle)
Winny / Anavar / Clen last 4 weeks (for clen 2 on 2 off 2x)
crazy strength, and mass and then good hardening/ water losing helpers. Maybe do 4-8 weeks of tren and finish off with the orals to deal with the liver toxicity and sides. I've run mast prop before and it's worked alright and wasn't harsh at all, barely any sides. Thanks for the reply man, tell me what your thoughts are.
Glad to see you can think for yourself as far as research goes. You've got some good ideas there too. One suggestion. I love Anavar but T-Bol gives better strength increases and is an awesome hardener. Better bang for your buck. But I'd never tell you not to use Anavar as it is a wicked compound. Plus you can run both for up to. 8 weeks! Much less toxic and both give great results especially stacked with test, Mast, and Tren... If you want to avoid Tren for awhile sub EQ or if you can get it bold ace, or bold prop, cyp. But the EQ run at least 12 weeks to get the full effect (15 weeks is better).
Good Luck bro
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Originally Posted by
skaar
Glad to see you can think for yourself as far as research goes. You've got some good ideas there too. One suggestion. I love Anavar but T-Bol gives better strength increases and is an awesome hardener. Better bang for your buck. But I'd never tell you not to use Anavar as it is a wicked compound. Plus you can run both for up to. 8 weeks! Much less toxic and both give great results especially stacked with test, Mast, and Tren... If you want to avoid Tren for awhile sub EQ or if you can get it bold ace, or bold prop, cyp. But the EQ run at least 12 weeks to get the full effect (15 weeks is better).
Good Luck bro
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haha you're hardcore. Thanks for the help brother, good luck on the Euro Hgh auction!
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Originally Posted by
Hyde
Thank you for the great info, I'll definitely be researching the above in the the future. As for tren, I've been trying to hold off on until test cycles stop working as efficiently. Perhaps the upcoming future is the time. I'll research something like:
Tren ace (or maybe cyp to match the test ester)
test cyp
superdrol first 4 weeks
(perhaps mast prop, depends how I would lay out the cycle)
Winny / Anavar / Clen last 4 weeks (for clen 2 on 2 off 2x)
I don't think tren cyp exists, closest thing would be tren enan. However, from what I have read, tren ace is a better choice for beginners because it clears your system faster in the event you start getting really bad side effects.
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i would disagree with you guys. you want just strength and mass in no regards to bloat or physique? test e, anadrol, and deca.
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Loose Cannon
i would disagree with you guys. you want just strength and mass in no regards to bloat or physique? test e, anadrol, and deca.
I agree here. When you want to put on some recognizable mass, you have to sacrifice some bloat/fat. Diet plays a major role here too. EAT TO GROW!
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I'd say dbol over anadrol. Drol never had any benefit over dbol for me. Especially if you run the dbol at 50mg a day. You'll get good and strong on that. I'd keep it simple, test e and dbol.
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For me , dbol as a stand alone gives me the best strength increase. Anadrol makes me look better but not quite as Intense as far as power goes. I will say , the single strongest stretch of power and size I had was a few cycles ago. Was running sust at 750 mg a week, npp 450 a week, 20 mg dbol , 50 mg drol, and 100 mg test suspension preworkout. Most incredible month of my life . Something as simple as turning a door knob and my arms would instantly blow up. Felt a strong urge to throw shit too
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