what is proper form ?

**hanuri** · 05-04-2013, 11:19 PM

methinks trainer of champs extraordinare charles glass puts it very simple in this clip ..... been doing that way myself for some two yrs or so and it WORKS . very very slow down and fast up , less weight but the muscle won´t know the difference since the first reps count as much as do the last ones vs just up and down fast , bang bang bang ..... lots of "empty " reps there IMO . PLUS the glass way is way safer . got this from dorian yates btw . he did it in his training w success too . I´d suggest you to give that way a try and see how it feels . much harder IMO that way

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddHxL...ture=endscreen

**hanuri** · 05-04-2013, 11:24 PM

however you watch ronnie c and branch warren doing excact the opposite ...... but glass says pros are pros . his way is safer ....

**JM750** · 05-04-2013, 11:33 PM

I totally agree with him. Anyone can just throw weight around. You need to control the weight. Sometimes I'll get a lil sloppy trying to get a couple more reps tho.
And I'll tell you one thing, I'm glad I train at home cause I'm not sure I could handle watching some of those retards there in the back ground.

**hanuri** · 05-04-2013, 11:47 PM

jea has it advantages to train at home .... me too train alone in our workplaces "gym" . funny thing is I nowdays never do reps the old way . not even when warming up .......

**PAiN** · 05-05-2013, 02:36 AM

Originally Posted by JM750

I totally agree with him. Anyone can just throw weight around. You need to control the weight. Sometimes I'll get a lil sloppy trying to get a couple more reps tho.
And I'll tell you one thing, I'm glad I train at home cause I'm not sure I could handle watching some of those retards there in the back ground.

Agreed......

LMAO You can't help but want to go over and slap them in the face with a 45lb plate when you see it...

My most recent experience at the gym was the guy using the preacher curl machine and talking on the phone at the same time haha.

**old mike** · 05-05-2013, 03:16 AM

Originally Posted by hanuri

methinks trainer of champs extraordinare charles glass puts it very simple in this clip ..... been doing that way myself for some two yrs or so and it WORKS . very very slow down and fast up , less weight but the muscle won´t know the difference since the first reps count as much as do the last ones vs just up and down fast , bang bang bang ..... lots of "empty " reps there IMO . PLUS the glass way is way safer . got this from dorian yates btw . he did it in his training w success too . I´d suggest you to give that way a try and see how it feels . much harder IMO that way

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddHxL...ture=endscreen

I am amazed that this is even brought up. Ya know it is common practice to cheat when going very, very heavy (whatever that is for you.) So the main thing when doing this is actually so that you must control the negative. There is such a thing about doing negatives. That is after doing all your reps you put on just what you can handle. Have you spotter just almost do all the positive motion with you and then hold it slow down for the negative. Then he pull it up with and for you, at this time you have little positive strength so you hold back the weight as best you can. Until total failure, being careful not to injury. But on all your sets if not the heavy one, you should always be doing a two way movement. Positive and negative. So what is new about this. ...old mike

**MrAvg** · 05-06-2013, 08:46 AM

Originally Posted by PAiN

Agreed......

LMAO You can't help but want to go over and slap them in the face with a 45lb plate when you see it...

My most recent experience at the gym was the guy using the preacher curl machine and talking on the phone at the same time haha.

^^^^^LOL

**TexxGearsRep** · 05-06-2013, 03:53 PM

Originally Posted by PAiN

Agreed......

LMAO You can't help but want to go over and slap them in the face with a 45lb plate when you see it...

My most recent experience at the gym was the guy using the preacher curl machine and talking on the phone at the same time haha.

Haha!

**hanuri** · 05-07-2013, 06:24 PM

Originally Posted by old mike

I am amazed that this is even brought up. Ya know it is common practice to cheat when going very, very heavy (whatever that is for you.) So the main thing when doing this is actually so that you must control the negative. There is such a thing about doing negatives. That is after doing all your reps you put on just what you can handle. Have you spotter just almost do all the positive motion with you and then hold it slow down for the negative. Then he pull it up with and for you, at this time you have little positive strength so you hold back the weight as best you can. Until total failure, being careful not to injury. But on all your sets if not the heavy one, you should always be doing a two way movement. Positive and negative. So what is new about this. ...old mike

surely there´s two way , up and down .. whe training alone . not all have the luxury to have a training partner assisting you ..... to me this still new , in the past I would push / pull the weight up and get it down at same speed to get as many reps I wanted or what weight I wanted . but weights are just tools , counting reps actually can limit you . I quarantee it feels way different if one just bangs the reps out ame speed up and down OR resists the weight some good 2-3 seconds on the way down ...on all sets . add peak contraction and it gets again more taxing . the weight itself isn´t that important ( after 30 yrs in gym in my case ) , but the feel , the pump , pain + it´s safer w lighter weights . my 2 euros ...