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      Looking for a safer option than Whatsapp

      Are there any chat apps that are actually safe and ostensibly unmonitored? I use whatsapp to communicate with others regarding gear in other countries, and I am concerned that whatsapp is not as anonymous or safe as it is said to be. I believe it is owned by facebook, and we all know that is not a secure site no matter what they say. Anyone have a good alternative? I've looked into other apps, but I am not convinced or I can't find any info on how anonymous it is. Maybe I am paranoid, but its healthy to be a little paranoid, rather than taking on a fuck it kind of attitude around internet safety. KWIM?

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      Stay off WhatsApp and any server hosted in the US for discussion of anything sensitive:
      whatsapp.com is hosted on SoftLayer
      • Datacenter: WhatsApp Inc.
      • Server IP: 192.155.212.202
      • Location: United States of America
      • City: Santa Clara
      • Domain Who Is: Click Here
      • Nameservers: a.ns.whatsapp.net, b.ns.whatsapp.net

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      Signal?

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      I am not sure I understand your question bro

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      Wire is good too.
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      My understanding wickr, wire and signal all good


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      Quote Originally Posted by MarineX View Post
      I am not sure I understand your question bro
      Signal is a supposed encrypted messaging app. I don't know how secure it is though.

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      I am not a IT expert, but basically if the data is hosted in the US, the government can easily subpoena with probable cause. and yes, big brother can get around encryption.
      IP and website location: signal.org

      IP address 13.249.188.25
      Host name server-13-249-188-25.bos50.r.cloudfront.net
      IP range 13.249.178.0-13.249.191.255 CIDR
      ISP Amazon.com, Inc.
      Organization Amazon Technologies Inc.
      Country United States of America (US)
      Region Massachusetts
      City Boston
      Time zone America/New_York, GMT-0400
      Local time 20:33:34 (EDT) / 2019.06.12
      Postal Code 02112

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      Quote Originally Posted by MarineX View Post
      I am not a IT expert, but basically if the data is hosted in the US, the government can easily subpoena with probable cause. and yes, big brother can get around encryption.
      IP and website location: signal.org

      IP address 13.249.188.25
      Host name server-13-249-188-25.bos50.r.cloudfront.net
      IP range 13.249.178.0-13.249.191.255 CIDR
      ISP Amazon.com, Inc.
      Organization Amazon Technologies Inc.
      Country United States of America (US)
      Region Massachusetts
      City Boston
      Time zone America/New_York, GMT-0400
      Local time 20:33:34 (EDT) / 2019.06.12
      Postal Code 02112
      That's not good at all. Think Wire is outside the US.

      If you want to use Signal or WhatsApp just DON'T discuss anything sensitive on those apps.
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