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      absorbing protein

      Is there actually any protein that is ...should I saywasted. e.g if you have 45g of protein every 3 hours are you actually using itall? If training hard and carbs and fats are up to scratch. Does excess getstored as fat?

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      While the pathways to convert protein to fat do exist in the body you're more likely to get struck by lightning twice....in the same day....in the same location .Absorption is not the same as utilization, you're confusing the two terms here. Absorption means that once something has been digested mechanically and chemically by your teeth and enzymes, the nutrients pass into the blood stream.Utilization refers to what they end up being used for. Protein will never be stored as fat in any realistic scenario. The pathways exist for it to happen but like I said earlier the chances of it happening are so small you're better off playing megamillions and hoping to win the jackpot. Carbs are very rarely stored as fat.This myth was started from research on rats who process carbs much differently than humans. In humans it's a distant concern. Dietary fat is the only macro that's always stored as fat. Your body most certainly will digest and absorb as well as utilize all macros provided you're healthy and no medical issues.

      Just my .02

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      +1 Apex

      Sounds legit to me

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      Consider that your whole body, skin, nails, vessels, enzymes, DNA etc is made from protein, or at least amino acids which is what makes proteins. So probably not.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Apex Peptides View Post
      Carbs are very rarely stored as fat. This myth was started from research on rats who process carbs much differently than humans. In humans it's a distant concern. Dietary fat is the only macro that's always stored as fat. Your body most certainly will digest and absorb as well as utilize all macros provided you're healthy and no medical issues.

      Not to be rude but that if flat wrong. Carbs ARE stored as fat. Carbs with out fiber (pasta, white rice, white bread) will cause spikes in your blood sugar which causes your insulin to spike. Insulin removes sugar from your blood and allows it to get into the cells for energy. Once it has used all the glucose it need including replenishing glycogen in the liver, your body stores the excess as fat.

      Fat does not make you fat. I don't have time to write a peer reviewed article about it right now but if you think I am wrong google it.

      That study you are referring to, it was fat not carbs. That's why the whole low-fat craze started in the late 60's or early 70's or whenever.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Docmdnite View Post
      Not to be rude but that if flat wrong. Carbs ARE stored as fat. Carbs with out fiber (pasta, white rice, white bread) will cause spikes in your blood sugar which causes your insulin to spike. Insulin removes sugar from your blood and allows it to get into the cells for energy. Once it has used all the glucose it need including replenishing glycogen in the liver, your body stores the excess as fat.

      Fat does not make you fat. I don't have time to write a peer reviewed article about it right now but if you think I am wrong google it.

      That study you are referring to, it was fat not carbs. That's why the whole low-fat craze started in the late 60's or early 70's or whenever.
      Which is around 100g of sucrose/50g of fructose a day. Hardly small.

      Also, I think in general, carbs won't make you fat and can't get stored as fat (except de novo lipogenisis), although overeating your maintenance ensures any dietary fat will get stored as body fat.

      Maybe your both right?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Docmdnite View Post
      Not to be rude but that if flat wrong. Carbs ARE stored as fat. Carbs with out fiber (pasta, white rice, white bread) will cause spikes in your blood sugar which causes your insulin to spike. Insulin removes sugar from your blood and allows it to get into the cells for energy. Once it has used all the glucose it need including replenishing glycogen in the liver, your body stores the excess as fat.

      Fat does not make you fat. I don't have time to write a peer reviewed article about it right now but if you think I am wrong google it.

      That study you are referring to, it was fat not carbs. That's why the whole low-fat craze started in the late 60's or early 70's or whenever.
      Thanks for adding to the thread!

      I'm aware of the pharmacodynamics of insulin. It certainly does have the nutrient/K+/glucose shuttling capabilities you made mention. In the ER, we often use continuous IV infusion Humalin R concomitantly with D5 NS at .1IU/KG/hr as direct intervention for DKA. Unless it's a pediatric case. Then, typically; we go with SubQ lispro .15IU/kg/q2h along with 10-20ml/kg .9% NS as fluid replacement therapy. We even use it quite a bit in certain applications within the OR, not to mention outpatient therapy for DBM I and DBMII patients.

      If you do stumble across time to write a peer reviewed article concerning the subject matter, I'd love to read it and learn more! I'm sure others would too! With the implication of you writing a peer reviewed article, I'm assuming you're an MD? If so, I have a couple of questions that could use your expertise.

      I appreciate you setting us straight!
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      For absorbing protein (actually all nutrients), I love papaya enzymes with each meal

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      Besides how incredibly technical this subject can get what it comes down to is if you take in more calories than you use whether it be from a simple or complex carb it will be stored as energy..it is true it may not be a direct effect but possibly indirectly.. Once you run out of room In them big ole muscles for them there glycogen stores the sugars will converted to fats and stored...kinda like a capacitor for your battery for your 12inch subs and stereo system in your first whip you rolled around in..maybe that was just me..

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