edited post. very good thread. good feedback!
edited post. very good thread. good feedback!
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AHHHHH..I see what your saying, based on calorie intake alone? next postOriginally Posted by krustus
Last edited by jdb3; 03-12-2013 at 12:25 AM.
You knw what...I do remember some shit aboutthis...its been a while since I read it, about adipose thresholds or some shit.
My 5 yo son loves to kick my ass at any game he can. On halo, Ill be in the back hiding trying to snipe targets and all of a sudden he's in my scope doing hand to hand and clearing the way. Pisses me off LOL.
I'm more of a black ops 2 guy myself, but yea good info here fellas, and no I wasn't makin fun haha
New section.....video game reviews! lol
this has really given me something to chew on ( no pun intended) I'm stuck right now and I'm wondering if IF for a week would create the confusion i need to get things rolling again. I think with AAS I'm not going to lose any if all mass in doing so, I know I'm prolly not going to gain though. Last prep we resorted to a torturous run with Keto and while it did work, rebound was horrible. Point being here, I actually gained some LMM while on keto and watched my strength explode as well and I'm fairly certain the AAS had a lot to do with that.
here are some quotes from an article on t nation (the latest i have read and easy for me to find) i am no scientist and haven't done anything but read articles and opinions on the subject, but the experience i have had with it has been great. i also read the warrior diet book and the leangains.com site. the warrior diet guy is pretty spiritual about it which kind of turns me off but the info is still pretty good. the leangains fellow has recently lost his mind over someone writing a book about his plan (the 8 hour diet) but leangains has some good articles and outlines about his fasting plan.
here is a link for a free ebook about fasting http://www.precisionnutrition.com/intermittent-fasting
Your body doesn't really keep a clock on calorie intake, as long as you're meeting your needs within the 24-hour period. Your muscles will not fall off with fewer meals, and neither will your metabolism take a nose-dive. Specific meal timing is a variable you can adjust to meet your goals.For those trying to lose fat, intermittent fasting protocols where you eat more calories in a shorter timeframe, or alternate high and low calories days, can allow you to stay in a deficit easier.
The potential benefits also include higher satiety and reduced cravings. If you struggle with tiny portions every couple hours and can hold off better if you get to eat big, being flexible with your meal sizes and when you eat them may help you stick to the diet.
Eating six meals a day every two to three hours to "stoke the metabolism" and prevent a catabolic "starvation mode" is bullshit. Your metabolism doesn't work that way. Grouping your meals together or getting all your calories in smaller time frames to fit your schedule or make adherence easier won't negatively affect your muscle gains or fat loss.At a physiological level your body can't really tell the difference between "types" of food. A carb is a carb. Protein is protein. Fat is fat. Your body won't reject a nutrient because it came in a different package on the shelf. This is where "if it fits your macros comes in."
The story is that IIFYM is not a "diet setup" or style – it came from bodybuilding threads where trainees were asking whether "macaroni could be eaten on my prep." The answer? "If it fits your macros bro, go for it."
I think the biggest prob I would have even trying this is shoving in 3400 cals in 3 or even 4 meals. I mean I will cut calories later in this prep, but 3400 is my maintenance. I just can't see me being able to eat a clean 1100 cal meal in one setting. None the less I'm going to read the link you posted and research a little more. I looked up leangains.com and that guy is, different, to say the least.
At a physiological level your body can't really tell the difference between "types" of food. A carb is a carb. Protein is protein. Fat is fat. Your body won't reject a nutrient because it came in a different package on the shelf. This is where "if it fits your macros comes in."
Not true....not all protiens are created equal (ie incomplete amino profile...vegtable protiens), same for carbs...If I was to eat 200 gram of carb from oats at one time...ok then 200 from sugar, different effect...different feedback. Carbs have a GI for a reason...different GI carbs have different breakdown (fas/slow) and create different insulin reactions. Same for fats...fats are not just fats...if this was true, everything I learned in college is completely false. Everything I have learned from doctors and fellow nutritionist is false....and then every diet layout that I have obtained from reputable people in the industry is wrong. Everything in modern nutrition and sports nutrition would be wrong.
Unsat/Sat fats are too very different things....a few cases of high BP/cholest and this becomes a reality. Unsat fats are treated completely different than sat fats inside the body and have different uses
The only way what this article says is true is when talking about caloric value of carbs and protiens (4 cals per gram), fat 9 cal
Last edited by jdb3; 03-13-2013 at 07:29 PM.
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