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      Good info

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      Excellent information and so true. Quality gains are directly tied to diet.

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      I had to learn this the hard way....a year of terrible gains

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      nice post shared thanx

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      Good rule of thumb. If you want to be a monster eat like a monster. You want to be a bird eat like a bird.

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      Great read!! PAiN broke it down in laymen terms.Ive read this type of info a dozen times , but never so simplified. Thnks Brother

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      Thanks I will try these things and keep you p[osted.

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      Well, a lot of good advice, but there are some numbers I wonder about.

      Im pretty certain the caloric needs of someone who is 200lbs & 10% body fat, are different than someone of 200lbs & 35% bodyfat, as well as protein.

      I have been near 200 lbs(over & under) before & lost fat, eating over 3000 calories...with a fairly low activity level. I'm not saying everyone should do this....or that there is one right way...but simply that it happened.

      One piece of advice that worked fom me(this was from Chris Acetos book) was keeping a chart of everything I ate for 3 days, dividing it up by 3 & finding the average. You could do it while you are losing, maintaining, or increasing weight to find out whichever number is working for you. Then....you can make a adjustment like adding/dropping a few hundred calories...instead of going to full on bulk(add 1000) or cut(drop 1000) etc & just continue until you need to adjust it again.

      Now, I know what I need to do drop to low bodyfat, but living on whey, tuna & rice cakes is tough. I'm sure it would be nice to be able to figure a way to cook these things, quickly & make them taste decent enough to stick to it.

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      i add 500 calories above maintenance for bulking and -500 maintenance for cutting.

      recommended 10%-15% +/- but I find 500 cals to get the job done just as effectively.

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      im a dietitian myself and do meal plans for man clients. I liked your acticle but the weight times 12 like you said doesnt work for every one. My body type builds muscle good but gains fat as well as i was chucky until i started training 15 years ago. Shakes are alright but whole foods are always best. Im cutting now and weigh 251lbs and make sure i eat at least 270=300 grams of protein everyday. I think you wrote a good acticle shakes are better then nothing so if your somewhere u can5 get good whole food meal its better to eat fastfood then nothing or a protein shake. everyone has time to eat right. For example ill make 3lbs8chicken hearts and 2 lbs chicken breast, just an example i eat alot of tilipia shimp etc. To cut i always try to limit my lean red meat to a max or 4 ounces every other day so i usually eat lean bison or venison 8oz 3 times a week both are very lean and high in proteim. while cutting redmeat and dairy are very mad imo to really shed up. I love milk but limit to 8 ounches twice a week and i drink organic ultra filtered milk with 13gram of protein per one cup 8ozs. Then i take 2lbs to work everyday and mix with fresh romaine lettuce green peppers etc. And eat alot of enzikel bread which isnt fllour at all its made from lentils and must be kept cold i eat 4 slces of that in sandwhiches and bring real 2 small sweet potatoes too. Yams are complex but real sweet potatoes are light ye llow not orange and alot better then yams. I cook my meals sunday night for the week and sometimes again thursday night I eat every 2-3 hours and eat 8ozs of chicken hearts this week and chicken breast 4ozs of chicken break has 26grams of protein and no fat. The chicken hearts i get have 29grams of protein per 4ozs 7 grams of fat but 2 grams saturated fats. i love how you said high protein low carb when bulking i even go 60/40 and cutting i carb cyle and go 5 days 40 percent carbs 5 days 30 percent carbs and 5 days 18 percent carbs. On my low carb days i only eat 80grams carbs tops this has worked well for me. i stopped competing late year but a prime example when i used to come into a show at 3-5 percent bf between 242-245lbs and within a week after the show i eat like a mad main and would easy put on 10 plus lbs in a week for dieting so hard. good read
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