totally agree i rarely drink at all for that fact drinking isnt that bad in moderation a ccouple drink every couple months but if you drink every week end its gonna kill your gains. I think alcolol is the biggest muscle killer. First off it dyhydrates your body when we need tons of water. love the read totally true ive seen a friend go from a ripped 230 7 percent bf and keep training and was drinking a 12 pack everyday to a 240 26 percent bodyfat he lost alot of muscle and gained alot of fat he still had some strenth but drinking and BB def dont mix excellent post