So we all know the basics of body building ( or i'm guessing most here do ) what it all comes back to more than anything is DIET DIET DIET can't stress it enough. Diet training rest recovery adding and mixing of AAS and compounds. One thing I did and still do when trying to pack on size and Cutler did the same is middle of the night meals or mid morning whatever your sleep schedule. Say you go to sleep at 10:00 PM and are up at 6:00 AM for 8 hrs sleep. I'm naturally up and down through out the night going to the bathroom or grab something to drink whatever. Our bodies heal and recover during sleep period. Before bed I always try to have something like cottage cheese and couple big glasses of milk cottage cheese clots in your stomach and the amino acids are slowly released into your system as you sleep same with milk. But before your 8 hours of sleep is up that food will be digested and leaving your body with nothing to grow on (imo) over the years and I have even set my alarm to wake myself get up after about 4 hrs go to the fridge have a pre-made snack. Depending on body type goals etc.. adjust your snack may not want carbs or fat just high protein or may want all 3 I usually do all 3 when trying to pack on size. Last night or this morning around 4:00 am I had some homemade tuna salad with egg whites a bowl of oatmeal that was premade I put a lil milk in it and basically drank it down 2 grams fish oil and spoon of PB and glass of water back to bed. Was up maybe a total of 10 minutes. Just my 2 cents