Excellent point!! Winny can cause virilization at very low doses... I would never suggest to a female novice... I have known females to virilize on only 10mg day... Nolva is a much better option for hardening for a female... gets those adipose tissue deposits off the hips and thighs during the last few weeks before comp... and now we have designer peptides with no risk of virilization... much safer for females...