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      I haven’t asked my hematologists about this yet,but I know that testosterone makes your hemocrit levels rise RBC higher at higher doses,but what about npp and masteron would they make it rise to as testosterone? Any commments would be appreciated


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      Quote Originally Posted by Bullseye Forever View Post
      I haven’t asked my hematologists about this yet,but I know that testosterone makes your hemocrit levels rise RBC higher at higher doses,but what about npp and masteron would they make it rise to as testosterone? Any commments would be appreciated


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      All aas raise RBC to a degree. But neither mast or nandro are considered to be extremely bad as far as that goes.

      Drol or EQ are amongst the worst and require blood donations at least every 8 weeks imo.

      But considering its dose dependent as well, if ur on a combination of a large amount of any aas and u know u have an inclination towards having higher rbc it's a good idea to just automatically plan on donating blood every 8 weeks minimum.

      But if ur on a high dose of various compounds that are known for raising rbc like EQ or drol u might wanna consider donating every month.

      Blood tests are the only way to know what ur lvls typically do on cycle

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      Quote Originally Posted by Oldskool View Post
      All aas raise RBC to a degree. But neither mast or nandro are considered to be extremely bad as far as that goes.

      Drol or EQ are amongst the worst and require blood donations at least every 8 weeks imo.

      But considering its dose dependent as well, if ur on a combination of a large amount of any aas and u know u have an inclination towards having higher rbc it's a good idea to just automatically plan on donating blood every 8 weeks minimum.

      But if ur on a high dose of various compounds that are known for raising rbc like EQ or drol u might wanna consider donating every month.

      Blood tests are the only way to know what ur lvls typically do on cycle

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      Well at my old TRT dose of 200mg/week my RBC was like 49-53

      I reduced it to 100mg/week now it runs like 41-42

      I’m wanting to do a small cycle been out over a year with broken leg and lost muscle and I’m 52 was gonna do like test e 400mg/week npp 400mg/week and masteron 400mg/week just to help me gain s little muscle back what do y’all think? I’m gonna talk to my hematologists about my cycle cause he knows about my past AAS use and I don’t do high doses anymore anyway,just need a little help from some of my brothers


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      Quote Originally Posted by Bullseye Forever View Post
      Well at my old TRT dose of 200mg/week my RBC was like 49-53

      I reduced it to 100mg/week now it runs like 41-42

      I’m wanting to do a small cycle been out over a year with broken leg and lost muscle and I’m 52 was gonna do like test e 400mg/week npp 400mg/week and masteron 400mg/week just to help me gain s little muscle back what do y’all think? I’m gonna talk to my hematologists about my cycle cause he knows about my past AAS use and I don’t do high doses anymore anyway,just need a little help from some of my brothers


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      Is there any particular reason ur adding in the mast? It's a great compound on a cut or maybe the end of a recomp but unless u just respond to it particularly well.

      Mast is great for its anti estrogen properties but it's really not known for being even decently anabolic.

      It's great for fat loss and to help give u a harder look.

      As a starter cycle to get back in the saddle I personally wouldn't use it...at least not at the beginning.

      A simple test and nandro cycle will add muscle and cut fat like crazy as long
      as training and diet are reasonably on point.

      Id personally Save the mast til after I see where I'm at on the initial cycle

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      Quote Originally Posted by Oldskool View Post
      Is there any particular reason ur adding in the mast? It's a great compound on a cut or maybe the end of a recomp but unless u just respond to it particularly well.

      Mast is great for its anti estrogen properties but it's really not known for being even decently anabolic.

      It's great for fat loss and to help give u a harder look.

      As a starter cycle to get back in the saddle I personally wouldn't use it...at least not at the beginning.

      A simple test and nandro cycle will add muscle and cut fat like crazy as long
      as training and diet are reasonably on point.

      Id personally Save the mast til after I see where I'm at on the initial cycle

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      Well i take masteron with my trt it just helps my libido is why I take it with that,I’ve lost so much muscle since my accident 18 months again with my broke leg and that’s why the cycle


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      Quote Originally Posted by Bullseye Forever View Post
      Well i take masteron with my trt it just helps my libido is why I take it with that,I’ve lost so much muscle since my accident 18 months again with my broke leg and that’s why the cycle


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      Aaaahhhh ok. Well then yeah, u gains well to it. Some guys get a nice boost from its anti estrogen properties.

      In that case the cycle u mentioned sounds good to me.

      I'd do it with long esters and front load it.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Bullseye Forever View Post
      Well at my old TRT dose of 200mg/week my RBC was like 49-53

      I reduced it to 100mg/week now it runs like 41-42

      I’m wanting to do a small cycle been out over a year with broken leg and lost muscle and I’m 52 was gonna do like test e 400mg/week npp 400mg/week and masteron 400mg/week just to help me gain s little muscle back what do y’all think? I’m gonna talk to my hematologists about my cycle cause he knows about my past AAS use and I don’t do high doses anymore anyway,just need a little help from some of my brothers


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      You must be talking about your Hematocrit not RBCs.

      Rbc range is 4.5 -6.0

      Hematocrit is dangerous as it approaches 50%.

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      Quote Originally Posted by teej750 View Post
      You must be talking about your Hematocrit not RBCs.

      Rbc range is 4.5 -6.0

      Hematocrit is dangerous as it approaches 50%.

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      Yes man your right.....my bad lol.....my Hemo now staying normal range and I also use grapefruit extract herbal supplements when I do small cycles seems to help keep my levels down


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      If a rise in heme or RBC is a concern, I'd get blood work. You can't just blanket everyone into a group and say, this guy and this guy's RBC/Heme didn't rise, so it dosen't. Medication isn't the same for everyone.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Zomb131 View Post
      If a rise in heme or RBC is a concern, I'd get blood work. You can't just blanket everyone into a group and say, this guy and this guy's RBC/Heme didn't rise, so it dosen't. Medication isn't the same for everyone.
      Yes man I get mine checked every 3 weeks under guidance is my hematologists and of my hemocrit to high I donate right there in his office


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