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      it goes without saying as you guys know, higher mg = PIP . Worst I ever got was from some Test500. Needless to say I never did that again. I could barely walk for days LOL. LOL in mans quest to get all amounts of weekly gear into a 3ml tube lets just say it aint gonna happen

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      That's what I've heard and have never used anything over 300. I like the happy cycles, f. all that painful stuff, not looking to be the biggest or strongest.

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      Quote Originally Posted by overfiddy View Post
      it goes without saying as you guys know, higher mg = PIP . Worst I ever got was from some Test500. Needless to say I never did that again. I could barely walk for days LOL. LOL in mans quest to get all amounts of weekly gear into a 3ml tube lets just say it aint gonna happen
      Quote Originally Posted by ggandb View Post
      That's what I've heard and have never used anything over 300. I like the happy cycles, f. all that painful stuff, not looking to be the biggest or strongest.
      I promise you brothers.. it comes down to how you respond to the ingredients used in brewing process.

      I use our Test 400.. and barely have a soreness at all.. No worse than the smoothest Test Prop you've ever done.. but i know our body's all respond different. If you run our T400 and it hurts.. it doesn't mean you'll be sensitive to all T400.. Try different labs to find one that works for you.. Starting with our first of course.. lol.

      but by no means does blasting 300mg or 400mg or more automatically mean you will def have pain.. don't be afraid to experiment..

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      Quote Originally Posted by BadGas View Post
      Hey brother.. yes man.. we all respond differently. I switched over a while back to 25g - 5/8 tip.. and it's been smooth sailing for me. Others not so much.. so maybe i'll recommend your advice to see if this helps. Funny you posted this today.. because I pin once a week.. and just pinned yesterday. As fate would have it.. i accidentally grabbed an older tip.. 23g - 1in tip.. which i used for 20yrs until I started pinning quads.. Every now and then I say fuck it and pin with the bigger tip .. to see if it still has same effect..

      As of today.. feel like i got kicked in the thigh.. but i sure do miss the days of the oil flowing so much easier as it does with the bigger tip.. Also. When i pierce my skin with the 23g tip.. I almost always get a small spasm.. And yesterday was no different..

      So back to my 25g.. 5/8 tip..

      Also.. I heard if you don't inject deep enough .. that it can cause significant discomfort.. Do you think that slin pin maybe just didn't get your gear deep enough.. ?? Curious
      My girl and I use 29g X 1/2 in delts, quads, and lats and we have never had any problems. Yes it goes in a little slow but it works. And I also like the 25 X 5/8 when Iím running larger doses.



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      Quote Originally Posted by ggandb View Post
      I was using 1 1/4" for the vg shots, but after those 2 pokes I didn't even want to try anywhere else. On cruise I have 27x1/2" for delts, 27x1" for thighs, and 27x1 1/4" for glutes. I didn't even want to try the vg again it hurt that bad. I'm only using them now just because I have them, but will never use again when they are gone. The only place I have ever gotten a spasm was in my peck, but don't pin pecks anymore, well maybe later I will. No short esters, only long for me.
      Totally understandable bro.. we all have different experiences pinning in the same places.. Why?? Because we're all wired differently.. or maybe the wiring is the same.. but the brain and the messages sent and receive are definitely not.. LOL

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      Running gear and its effects as well as pip are all individually based. Just gotta try things out and see how they work for you!

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      Quote Originally Posted by Revelations View Post
      This is a good point and another thing people need to remember is it's higher mg gear; there's a reason big pharma companies dose cyp at 200mg/mL and Enth at 250/mL generally speaking. There is nothing wrong with UGL's that brew higher concentration gear; people need to just understand that it might come with a lil PIP do to this reason. To be honest, I'd be surprised if anything over 300mg/ mL didn't come with a lil bite to it.
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      I agree with you brother and personally I don't mind a lil pip from higher concentrated gear it gives me a sense of relief, however I never get that bad of pip even when injecting multiple high concentration compounds in the same pin. I guess Im one of the lucky ones lol

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      Quote Originally Posted by Jaggs91 View Post
      I agree with you brother and personally I don't mind a lil pip from higher concentrated gear it gives me a sense of relief, however I never get that bad of pip even when injecting multiple high concentration compounds in the same pin. I guess Im one of the lucky ones lol
      I am too, to an extent tho.. I ran T300 and TProp 100 from DQ .. and it fucked me up terribly. Fevers.. sweats.. redness.. swollen leg around injection site..
      Automatically one would think bad gear.. but I've been in this game long enough to know better. Think of all the bro's that run DQ.. and none of them were complaining.
      PLus, all my friends were running the same exact gear I was .. and had zero sides or issues.
      2 friends even offered to pin my gear.. which they did, and they got zero reactions like I did.. In the end, i gave away my gear to my friends that pinned it..

      As always.. it comes down to knowing yourself.. paying attention.. and listening to your body when it speaks to you.
      It will tell you what you can and can not do.

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      Quote Originally Posted by BadGas View Post
      I am too, to an extent tho.. I ran T300 and TProp 100 from DQ .. and it fucked me up terribly. Fevers.. sweats.. redness.. swollen leg around injection site..
      Automatically one would think bad gear.. but I've been in this game long enough to know better. Think of all the bro's that run DQ.. and none of them were complaining.
      PLus, all my friends were running the same exact gear I was .. and had zero sides or issues.
      2 friends even offered to pin my gear.. which they did, and they got zero reactions like I did.. In the end, i gave away my gear to my friends that pinned it..

      As always.. it comes down to knowing yourself.. paying attention.. and listening to your body when it speaks to you.
      It will tell you what you can and can not do.
      Very true

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