Experiment with site growth using PGE1 & MGF

**Tazzzz** · 02-21-2015, 11:56 AM

Started reading a comment by JJB1 in a thread about PGE1 and his personnel experience. I looked at his Avi and asked if that was him. It was and brother has great guns--bi's and tri's. He turned me on to an article by Elvia who did a long experiment with PGE1 and logged a lot of great info. I decided to give it a shot.
Ordered some PGE1 from JJB1 and pinned acording to protocol set up by Elvia--

"Last night I tested it but injecting 0.05ml in each bi-cep. That was done in 1 spot in the middle of my long head (bi-cep peak). I done no exercise and just wanted to see how it felt. What can I say it was a dull pain and constant. My bi-cep felt rock hard and I was constantly aware of it. I could feel it awhile but it wasn't bad and I went to sleep."
"Today I injected 0.05ml (14.3mcg) again in each bi-cep pre training. The pump is ridiculous!! It does hurt but nothing bad. My bi-cep felt weird... literally like it had been pumped up. This stuff is gonna be amazing at stretching the muscle fascia so I have high hopes. My bi-ceps are hard anyway but they were like concrete so a good feeling."

I basically did the same protocol and had the very same experience--except I did not start out with rock hard bi's--average bi's at best.
Before injection measurements--left bi--16 1/2" right--17"
After injection measurements---left--17 3/4" right--18"

I took the afters 2 hours after injection and atribute the slightly larger gain in the left to a slightly higher dose in that bi. It is VERY difficult to inject such small amouts accuratelt. Let me explain this better.
The PGE1 is a 1ml bottle. You add 3ml Bac water to the bottle. 1 split pin is only 3 lines on a slin pin---3 SMALL lines below the 10 mark. That dose gets split in half into each bi--1 1/2 lines per bi. Can you see how this is a bit hard to manage? But, I am blown away by the results.
I plan on adding in the MGF in a day or two. My thinking is this---the PGE1 is a vasodialator which basically means the bi is being pumped full of blood and stretching the muscle especially at the fascia. This "damage" will allow for growth or at least increased size from scar tissue. My thinking by adding the MGF is it will cause hyperplasia because that is what MGF dose. So rather than just creating scar tissue size to the muscle, the MGF will add permanant quality muscle tissue. I check with JJB1 and he ddid not know of anyone doing this type of protocol but agreed that it sounded very possiable based on each products qualities.
I will keep posting on this as I progress and welcome all questions. I will answer as best I can and will check with JJB1 & Elvia if I am out of my area of knowledge.
Wish me luck!

**Ironworker1** · 02-21-2015, 05:45 PM

Very good experiment brotha... who can I get the pge1 from? and how much does it normally run for? I'm up to trying for myself and would it work for any muscle areas?

**Dont wanna be old** · 02-21-2015, 05:48 PM

I'm watching .
Exciting stuff right here .

**Tazzzz** · 02-21-2015, 06:48 PM

Originally Posted by Ironworker1

Very good experiment brotha... who can I get the pge1 from? and how much does it normally run for? I'm up to trying for myself and would it work for any muscle areas?

I went through Johnjuanb1 from Superior on our Sponsor forum. I think it was about $40. for 1000mcg. When you do the calcultions, if your only pinning your bi's, that will last you 2 months! Very good for the price.
MGF is about $28. for 2mg. MGF is 200mcg split bi-lateral in the bi's so 1 bottle should be about 10 days. I watch for the BOGO & 1/2 price sales---makes it very easy to do.

**Tazzzz** · 02-21-2015, 06:50 PM

Originally Posted by Dont wanna be old

I'm watching .
Exciting stuff right here .

Got to be honest--I was very surprised to see the increase even though JJB1 & Elvia both spoke to it. It is powerful stuff and you do have to be careful dosing. My goal is the long term growth and maintaining good mature muscle. That will take some time but I'm in for the long haul.
I'll keep posting on this.

**Johnjuanb1** · 02-22-2015, 07:26 PM

I'm loving this experiment!
I still have my vial of pge1 in my refrigerator but haven't had the balls to try it yet. Haha

Are you lifting as heavy as you normally would, or more moderate weight with slow controlled reps for safety reasons?
I wouldn't want to tear the biceps so I would keep form very slow on the positive and negative part of each rep and squeeze the piss out of it at the top. I doubt I would go for a full stretch at the bottom out of fear.
Maybe you'll get your bis up to 20". I think slow and steady with long duration of this cycle can produce some remarkable gains. And if you're bored, put a little in your pecker for the your lady. Hahaha

**Dont wanna be old** · 02-22-2015, 07:44 PM

I was researching and found they also pin pre-bed and get great results .
Same dose as pre-workout . That's the PGE-1
Not sure on MGF as I'm only going to try 1 peptide at a time .

**kubes** · 02-22-2015, 07:49 PM

I will be following this too

**Tazzzz** · 02-22-2015, 08:11 PM

Originally Posted by Johnjuanb1

I'm loving this experiment!
I still have my vial of pge1 in my refrigerator but haven't had the balls to try it yet. Haha

Are you lifting as heavy as you normally would, or more moderate weight with slow controlled reps for safety reasons?
I wouldn't want to tear the biceps so I would keep form very slow on the positive and negative part of each rep and squeeze the piss out of it at the top. I doubt I would go for a full stretch at the bottom out of fear.
Maybe you'll get your bis up to 20". I think slow and steady with long duration of this cycle can produce some remarkable gains. And if you're bored, put a little in your pecker for the your lady. Hahaha

I won't get that bored!! LOL
I'm lifting about 90% and doing less weight higher reps on the arms. I can DEFF feel the pump in the bi's and can tell that if I push it too hard I will deff do damage. Gotta be smart with this stuff. I'm doing what Pain posted once--listening to my body. You know your body and you know whenyour at the limit of safe so yeah, thats what I'm doing.
20" arms is my BHAG--Big Hairy Audatious Goal. Its a corp term for setting crazy goals but approaching them with everything you have in the hopes you will achieve them. Without radical goals you will always be stuck in "average" or below average---totally not acceptable. 3" is a lot to shoot for in 1 year but I have the frame and potential so Fuck Yah, lets do this!
Thanks again JJB1 and I will keep posting on this.

**Tazzzz** · 02-22-2015, 08:20 PM

Originally Posted by Dont wanna be old

I was researching and found they also pin pre-bed and get great results .
Same dose as pre-workout . That's the PGE-1
Not sure on MGF as I'm only going to try 1 peptide at a time .

I do the PGE-1 in the evening so I'm not at max pump when I hit the gym in the morning. The MGF I pin right after the gym. I got reg MGF so the life in system is onlt about 7-10 minutes so it has to be right after "damage" is done or the body starts healing itself and blocks the MGF. The PEG-MGF might be a better bet next time but its more expensive.