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Originally Posted by
Thappy
1 month on 4iu I had noticbly tighter waistline, huge difference in skin(comments from everyone) I looked much fuller.
i take it you are using a generic.With the erections almost seems like some hcg or something in there. Hair and nails should be growing ultra fast on hgh and shouldn't produce sides on 4iu except tiredness
also 4iu isn't a anti ageing dose. 1-2iu is the max they are meant to give for. Antiaging.
Honestly, it depends on the quality of the generics imo! 2iu-4iu is a standard anti-aging dosage depending on the purity and the MGs in each vial. If you have QUALITY GENERICS that have high purity(97-99%) and each vial is dosed accurately(3.33mg) then 2iu or 2.5iu ED will do you just fine for anti-aging. If you have pharma grade then 2iu ED is more then enough for anti-aging.
Honestly, 2iu do a lot more then just "anti-aging" results. Esp if your new to it! You get the best results when your new to it because after longtime use of exogenous hgh it suppresses your natural gh production from the pituitary.
Somethin people don’t consider is the effects on the pituitary gland. Just like if you take to much testosterone or use it for a long time your nuts quit producing test, well same with HGH. Your own pituitary stops making HGH or produces much less. This is after prolonged use tho!
This is why myself and others run gh peps after a hgh run to get the pituitary back pumping again!
Originally Posted by
get2dachoppa
I had to back off my dose. Basically I'm starting over. I titrated slowly but when I got to 5ius a day I was good for about two weeks. Then I started getting all the classic carpal tunnel symptoms. They're improving but I guess it goes to show you that this stuff is very powerful and sides can happen on a whim even if you titrate slowly.
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5ius is also as high as i have went. After some time at that dose those sides will subside a bit! They did for me. Not completely but they wont be as bad!
I also took the 10iu EOD regimine when i was bulking, instead of 5iu ED. That was brutal at first but you get use to it. EOD is great for bulking in my experience! You just take your daily dose and do it all in one day on the major workout days. IF your taking 4iu ED, try taking 8iu EOD! Just a thought. You get use to the negative side effects quicker and they subside faster using this method also.
You really do have to go up slowly in my experience. If you start with 2iu ED, stay with that for 4-8 weeks before going up. Then up to 3.33iu ED, once in the AM.(1/3 of a vial) Do this for 4-8 weeks. Then up to 4ius. Once at 4ius do the am/pm split.
Doing the split will also not only bring you more sides...but remember because your SPLITTING YOUR DOSE. ITS IN YOUR SYSTEM for more time throughout the day. Which will also make the sides feel stronger. So your not only getting more negative sides because of the higher dose..but because its in your blood stream MORE time during the day as well
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I titrated too quickly to 5 ius and it just all spanked me hard suddenly. Had some major carpal tunnel symptoms. After dropping down They're still there but not anywhere as bad as they were
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Originally Posted by
gh0st-shadows
Honestly, it depends on the quality of the generics imo! 2iu-4iu is a standard anti-aging dosage depending on the purity and the MGs in each vial. If you have QUALITY GENERICS that have high purity(97-99%) and each vial is dosed accurately(3.33mg) then 2iu or 2.5iu ED will do you just fine for anti-aging. If you have pharma grade then 2iu ED is more then enough for anti-aging.
Honestly, 2iu do a lot more then just "anti-aging" results. Esp if your new to it! You get the best results when your new to it because after longtime use of exogenous hgh it suppresses your natural gh production from the pituitary.
Somethin people don’t consider is the effects on the pituitary gland. Just like if you take to much testosterone or use it for a long time your nuts quit producing test, well same with HGH. Your own pituitary stops making HGH or produces much less. This is after prolonged use tho!
This is why myself and others run gh peps after a hgh run to get the pituitary back pumping again!
5ius is also as high as i have went. After some time at that dose those sides will subside a bit! They did for me. Not completely but they wont be as bad!
I also took the 10iu EOD regimine when i was bulking, instead of 5iu ED. That was brutal at first but you get use to it. EOD is great for bulking in my experience! You just take your daily dose and do it all in one day on the major workout days. IF your taking 4iu ED, try taking 8iu EOD! Just a thought. You get use to the negative side effects quicker and they subside faster using this method also.
You really do have to go up slowly in my experience. If you start with 2iu ED, stay with that for 4-8 weeks before going up. Then up to 3.33iu ED, once in the AM.(1/3 of a vial) Do this for 4-8 weeks. Then up to 4ius. Once at 4ius do the am/pm split.
Doing the split will also not only bring you more sides...but remember because your SPLITTING YOUR DOSE. ITS IN YOUR SYSTEM for more time throughout the day. Which will also make the sides feel stronger. So your not only getting more negative sides because of the higher dose..but because its in your blood stream MORE time during the day as well
As soon as 3 weeks your nuts stop producing natural test.
And yes pharma GH is all i use as in Australia its the only thing that is trustworthy. But with pharma i can start on 5iu and have no carpel tunnel or any sides apart from tiredness and those that have tried geno or humatrope will agree 100%
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Hgh is a slow moving hormone , the longer you use it, the more benefits you will see ....actually pretty amazing improvements/changes occur after your igf1 has been elavated for an extended time .....basically it only gets better the longer your on it ...
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Originally Posted by
twisted
Hgh is a slow moving hormone , the longer you use it, the more benefits you will see ....actually pretty amazing improvements/changes occur after your igf1 has been elavated for an extended time .....basically it only gets better the longer your on it ...
Completly agree...the more time on, even at a low dose, the better it is. I would rather run 4 ius for a year. then run 8ius for 6months.
Originally Posted by
get2dachoppa
I titrated too quickly to 5 ius and it just all spanked me hard suddenly. Had some major carpal tunnel symptoms. After dropping down They're still there but not anywhere as bad as they were
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Yeah i just bumped up to 6iu per day . am/pm split and my hands are numb all say!
im on some killer genrics tho. the greytops!
Loving 6ius per day! I went up a little fast also this time. Started with just 3.33iu in the am and them pretty much doubled it and started taking. 3iu twice a day and dam i can feel it in my hands. haard to even make a fist for a few hours after dosing!
i feel no need to go higher than 6iu with these. some of the best hgh i have done. yet to try pharma grade
Originally Posted by
Thappy
As soon as 3 weeks your nuts stop producing natural test.
And yes pharma GH is all i use as in Australia its the only thing that is trustworthy. But with pharma i can start on 5iu and have no carpel tunnel or any sides apart from tiredness and those that have tried geno or humatrope will agree 100%
Yeah i was just using the test senerio as an example to compare it to prolonged hgh use!
Yet to try geno or humas but gonna hit up my man the pharmacist for em very soon! not sure if he sources here. but he is gonna give me a good deal!
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Originally Posted by
Dont wanna be old
Looking forward to next months updates .
Gains from GH are very slow but pick up in time .
4iu should work well for anti-aging .
Cheers
DWBO
1.5iu is what they prescribe for anti aging 2.5iu will noticeably tighten mid section with in 2 weeks and skin tone quite drastically change. Hit 4-5iu and thats where the fullness comes in.
OP with the timing personal experience has shown me that for weight loss and general well being 1 am pin is sufficient but if you have quality growth pin 2iu upon waking up and 2iu pre training. Will notice a big difference in a pump in the gym and recovery improve drastically.
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Originally Posted by
gh0st-shadows
Completly agree...the more time on, even at a low dose, the better it is. I would rather run 4 ius for a year. then run 8ius for 6months.
Yeah i just bumped up to 6iu per day . am/pm split and my hands are numb all say!
im on some killer genrics tho. the greytops!
Loving 6ius per day! I went up a little fast also this time. Started with just 3.33iu in the am and them pretty much doubled it and started taking. 3iu twice a day and dam i can feel it in my hands. haard to even make a fist for a few hours after dosing!
i feel no need to go higher than 6iu with these. some of the best hgh i have done. yet to try pharma grade
Yeah i was just using the test senerio as an example to compare it to prolonged hgh use!
Yet to try geno or humas but gonna hit up my man the pharmacist for em very soon! not sure if he sources here. but he is gonna give me a good deal!
We in Australia are very hit and miss with generics again with experience turned out cheaper for me to buy pharma. Then again never had a consistent quality source for good generics. The ones that did test well gave horrible sides which i have had none of with the pharma stuff. geno or huma can assure you will notice a huge difference. Also out of pocket as well. But for me i can run them a shorter amount of time and get better results. All bodies react differently to different compounds though
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Hits the pocket hard here in oz I think 10iu is about 300
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Looking forward to reading more!
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That's exactly why the should make it easier to get
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