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      So in conclusion:

      4iu of GH for just 2 days --------> increased igf-1 levels 68% from baseline.

      25mg of MK677 @ 2 weeks----->increased igf-1 levels 64% from baseline.

      note: MK677 was taken in the morning along with 100mcg huperzine A + 200mg caffeine free EGCG to help lower somatostatin.

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      Comments on the 2 weeks: remember that everyone reacts differently, I have been using it at 25mg every morning for 2 weeks, get no lethargy, great sense of well being, increased energy, even my spouse said my mood improved after coming home from work the past 2 weeks, as I was in a good mood compared to my normal stressed self. I actually feel younger on the stuff at age 48. I spend only 15 a month for 25mg a day, as I get the pure powder and weigh it myself into caps with a cheap quality 1mg scale. Keep in mind I did work my way up to 25mg, by starting at 15mg for day 1-3, then 20mg for 2 days, then went up to 25mg.

      Perhaps the increase in igf-1 and increased amount of low level (12+ a day) GH pulses helps to explain why I feel younger on the stuff. Strength increased in the gym by 5 lbs+ on all upper body in 2 weeks for same reps, while squats and leg press went up 20 lbs (and +10lbs on hamstring curl) for same reps while on the mk677...I'm staying on this stuff forever (with breaks here and there) absolutely love it.
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      To sum up the results of the research I did so far:
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      self:
      227 igf1---->380 igf1 (4iu chinese generic pharm grade) = 153 point jump

      Peptides:
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      Alpha6164's (medical doctor's best friend):
      167 igf1---->272 igf1 (100mcg grf(1-29) + 100mcg ghrp2 x 3 times a day) = 105 point increase

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      self:
      227 igf1---->372 igf1 (25mg mk677) = increase of 145 points******
      Fitraver:
      224 igf1---->359 igf1 (12.5mg mk677) = increase of 135 points*
      MrSaturatedfat:
      232 igf1---->312 igf1 (25mg mk677) = increase of 80 points**
      thebigone:
      150 igf1---->242 igf1 (20mg mk677) = increase of 92 points***
      machine5150:
      141 igf1-----217 igf1 (20mg mk677) = increase of 76 points****
      Sayitaintsoap:
      unknown igf1---->376 igf1 (25mg mk677) = unknown increase*****

      *See Fitraver post "bloods on 12.5mg mk677"
      **See Mrsaturatedfat post "37 days on mk677"
      ***See thebigone post "Humatrope,MK677 and other GH labs for you guys"
      ****See machine5150 post "MK677 Before and After Blood Work w/ IGF Levels Raised 53.9%"
      *****See sayitaintsoap post "THT's MK-677 review and blood work"
      ******self: note took in morning with 100mcg huperzine A + 200mg caffeine free EGCG to help lower somatostatin (instead of huperzine A you could also use CDPcholine + vitamin B5).
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      1st lab is baseline igf-1 [227, high] (age 48, ref is 67 to 205 ng/mL)

      2nd lab is igf-1 [380, high] after 4iu of Chinese pharm grade for 2 days (95 point increase per each 1iu)

      3rd lab is igf-1 [372, high] after 25mg mk677 for 2 weekslab baseline.jpglab g.jpglab mk.jpg
      Last edited by evawinter; 04-29-2018 at 01:55 PM.

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      Concluding notes:

      bottom graph: It turns out the level of 372 igf-1 the MK677 brought me too is right around the level of most 16 year old boys and girls (between 300 to 400 igf-1).

      StanG (from here):
      Now lets talk a bit abut side effects. I see a ton of people talking about bloat with Mk677. There is a lot of confusion as to why this occurs and how to prevent it. Many people drop the dosage however by doing so you directly impact the potency and effectiveness of Mk. The optimal dose for Mkk677, without a doubt, is 25mg/day. The bloat is caused by an effect in the kidneys caused by the increase in GH on vasopressin. This can easily be offset by the addition of a simple low dose daily aspirin protocol. Thats right, one 82mg aspirin/day with impact ADH (anti dieuretic hormone or vasporessin) to the point where it eliminated the bloat associated with Mk677.
      Dropping the dose to 10 to 15mg can also reduce bloat but will still be very effective, studies with just 10mg still showed large increase in igf-1. Another way to control is to be on a targeted year round low carb, high fat/protein keto-diet (which I follow) with increased carbs around workout times/days. Don't think of the minor increased water weight as bad, it has allowed for some rather fast moderate increases in strength in the gym + the muscles feel pumped and very full, and my joints feel incredible as before the mk677 I had had some joint issues which cleared right up about 2 weeks into the mk677.

      I was extra hungry for the 1st week on it, but after that the increased hunger died down/went away. In 2 year studies on mk677, it was still effective (no desensitization), and the level of igf-1 at the 1 year point was actually measured and found to have increased beyond what it was at the 3 week level.

      The 1st day I took it, I felt a bit funny (even euphoric) as it raises your GH level super sky high, but then the body will sense the increased igf-1 the next day and instill a feedback mechanism to keep it within the level of a teenager after that.igf-1.jpeg

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      I would like to ask
      Has anyone had any negitive feeedback on insulin sensitivity while using mk677

      I have read about this however have not spoken to anyone that has had this problem

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      Yes toretto. MK677 similar to GH is going to lower your insulin sensitivity a bit, I would suggest taking 1 capsule of Arazo's blood sugar support (read 600 reviews at amazon) or anything similar 1/2 hour before every meal & protein shake to improve insulin sensitivity + shuttle excess glucose towards muscle and liver and not fat storage. These glucose disposal agents have been found my many reviewers to work even better than metformin without the side effects, and blood sugar was lowered from 130 and 120 down to 80 and similar readings for those with issues, helps with weight loss, etc. 1g Cinnamon supplement (not the extract) was also shown in several studies to lower blood sugar levels by 25%, just read the study at ergo-log.

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      With the money I save not having to buy GH monthly, I have spent a small portion of the money buying top sirloin in bulk at costco (and put the rest of money in 401k) and cook on my electric grill (super easy clean up, just replace foil in round plate catch below the grill) at 450 degree F outside on porch, no mess like cooking/broil splatter in the oven. Electric grills are awesome, also throw in a foil pouch with water soaked mesquite chips with holes poked in the foil to give a smoke flavor to the steaks. Steak + eggs + salmon + metrx = great protein weekly.

      I am still on the year-round targeted ketogenic diet (TKD, carbs kept to less than 25 grams daily) except on workout days when I consume 40 grams pre-workout (1 to 1.5 hour before) in the form of oatmeal (plus a few raisins) microwaved in milk. Then add a pre-cut up frozen bannana to my postworkout met-rx pure protein shake for some postworkout carbs, then of course back to keto diet for the rest of the day. Been loosing fat this way while adding muscle weekly. I also take 1 tablet of blood sugar support from arazos 20 minutes before meals, to keep insulin working effectively as mk677 and GH both will decrease your insulin sensitivity a bit.

      Supplements daily:
      * 50 grams met-rx pure protein plus,
      * 25mg mk677 in morning + 50mcg (1/2 a huperzine tablet) + a formula which contains 200mg cdp choline + 100mg alpha gpc choline (this all helps keeps somatostatin low as GH works thru the choline system)
      * 1 tablet arazo blood sugar support (glucose disposal agent) 20 minutes before meals, sometimes throw in additional chromium picolinate and vanadyl sulfate (reduces blood sugar 20%) or cinnamon supplement (reduces 25%).
      * 3 grams HMB daily (buy in bulk powder form from bulksupplements, 6 months supply around 40 dollars)
      * year round 200mg a week TRT cypionate + 1/4 mg arimidex with each of the twice weekly shots of 100mg.
      * 5 grams creatine daily
      * give blood every few months

      workout schedule:
      1st day: chest, triceps, shoulders [push]
      2nd day: rest
      3rd day: legs + abs
      4rth day: rest
      5th day: back, biceps, traps [pull]
      Like Dan Duchaine once wrote in his book "Bodyopus" working out each bodypart just once a week is highly effective.

      fun schedule for mental & spiritual health:
      go to waterpark to go swimming at least once or twice a week = nature peace of mind
      other days: walk dog in shaded park with river and clear streams and hundred year old trees = nature peace of mind
      stay mindful spiritually

      movies seen recently:
      Annihilation with Natalie Portman (sci-fi)
      Submergence with Alicia Vikander (actress from Tomb Raider)

      ** I will back at the end of July with more followup bloodwork after being on MK677 for 4 months + spouse bloodwork upcoming.

      Summary: 25mg mk677 daily in am with choline enhancers increased my igf-1 from 227 to 372 total in 2 weeks, increase of 145 points, which is very similar to 4iu of Chinese pharmacy grade GH which is used to treat dwarfism in China.

      I have been on 25mg daily of mk677 for 2 months now, added 60 lbs to 20 rep squat in that time, and all upper body lifts went up around 5lbs weekly. Get about an added 20 to 25% increase in strength from it just like JohnJuanb1.

      The study on older healthy adults shows the igf-1 levels continue to rise up to high at the 6 month period, then level around there and stay at that high 6 month elevation even at the 1 and 2 year mark. I will be conducting igf-1 bloodwork not only at 4 months, but also at each 1 year anniversary to chart my own as well.

      You can control bloat pretty well by staying on a ketogenic diet like myself if need be, I'm on this diet year-round.

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      Great post bro, thx

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      MK-677 is my favorite bodybuilding supplement after AAS. It’s so immediate in its benefits that there’s no denying whether or not you have legit product. My strength goes up within days. My bad rotator cuffs and knees feel cushioned and safer allowing me to go heavier and attain more repetitions. The pump and nitrogen retention in the muscles is the best! Dreams are more vivid and sometimes lucid.
      I like this graph that shows the GH pulses from one 25mg dose of MK-677 over a 24 hour period. As you can see there are many GH pulses from on oral dose with the greatest HGH peak approximately 14 hours and 20 minutes after administration. IGF1 levels remain elevated even after a year of daily use. I prefer dosing it a couple hours before bed. Morning dosing knocks me on my butt.
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      Thanks so much for this post really appreciate ready quality insight on things with real world experience on it. Was actually going to be using this in the very near future but didn't know about the other peptide will look into it also. thanks brother

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