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Looks like a IM injection for this yes? Can it also be injected in joits to speed up recovery in that joint? Ie knee or shoulder?
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Originally Posted by
Darth Flex
Looks like a IM injection for this yes? Can it also be injected in joits to speed up recovery in that joint? Ie knee or shoulder?
IGF1-LR3 goes systemic post injection so it will speed up healing everywhere. I’ve never tried injecting it into a joint but i used it in delts, pecs, quads, hams, just about any muscle. It works regardless but i really like micro injecting IGF1-Lr3 in the muscle I’m about to train preworkout in a series of 10mcg injecting in 5 sites bilaterally. So before i train say chest for example I put 10mcg in 5 spots in each pec then go train chest. The pump is un-freaking-believable!!!
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I know there are posts in here on ratios to recostitute but how do you break yours down to inject only 10mcgs? Do you stick with the dame needle over and over then? Perhaps a 27g 1/2 inch?
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Just starting IGF for the first time with my GH. Really looking forward to it. I see it is okay to do sub q which I intend to do however what do you find best? I prefer to not do IM constantly but if it’s worth it than I will
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Great read. Well written. Thank you.
Sent from me over there to you over here.
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Question...is there any draw backs we have to worry about..like suppression of any form? Also if any..how do we counter act it?
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IGF1 is quite safe and tolerable, some may suffer from a mild hypo which is not dangerous and easy to counter with proper nutrition .
Not many consider this but IGF1 suppresses directly the natural GH production, and despite IGF1 being the GH's mediator for many of the GH's ananbolic activities the GH has some systemic effects which are not related to IGF1. And actually as you may see below GH and IGF1 have some distinctively different effects, hence it's advised to combine them, they also have some very favorable synergistic effects, here are some scientific data to support this -
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9129466
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GH and IGF-I combined further enhanced fat oxidation while reducing protein catabolism. Serum insulin concentrations were significantly increased by GH but decreased by IGF-I. GH significantly decreased serum total triiodothyronine concentrations and IGF-I significantly decreased serum corticosterone concentrations.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10571453
-----------results and conclusions
RESULTS:
Administration of IGF-I, but not GH, attenuates dexamethasone-induced protein catabolism and increases insulin sensitivity. Simultaneous treatment with GH and IGF-I additively increases the serum concentration of IGF-I, whole-body anabolism, and lipid oxidation. GH or IGF-I when given alone produces similar increases in the serum concentration of IGF-I. However, GH selectively increases skeletal muscle mass whereas IGF-I selectively attenuates the intestinal atrophy and abnormal intestinal ion transport induced by TPN. These tissue-selective anabolic effects of GH and IGF-I are associated with differential increases in protein synthesis in skeletal muscle and jejunum, respectively.
CONCLUSIONS:
Simultaneous treatment with GH and IGF-I may offer the greatest clinical efficacy because of improved nitrogen retention in association with enhanced lipid oxidation and stimulation of protein synthesis in multiple tissue types.
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Originally Posted by
Pharmaca
IGF1 is quite safe and tolerable, some may suffer from a mild hypo which is not dangerous and easy to counter with proper nutrition .
Not many consider this but IGF1 suppresses directly the natural GH production, and despite IGF1 being the GH's mediator for many of the GH's ananbolic activities the GH has some systemic effects which are not related to IGF1. And actually as you may see below GH and IGF1 have some distinctively different effects, hence it's advised to combine them, they also have some very favorable synergistic effects, here are some scientific data to support this -
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9129466
------------conclusions -
GH and IGF-I combined further enhanced fat oxidation while reducing protein catabolism. Serum insulin concentrations were significantly increased by GH but decreased by IGF-I. GH significantly decreased serum total triiodothyronine concentrations and IGF-I significantly decreased serum corticosterone concentrations.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10571453
-----------results and conclusions
RESULTS:
Administration of IGF-I, but not GH, attenuates dexamethasone-induced protein catabolism and increases insulin sensitivity. Simultaneous treatment with GH and IGF-I additively increases the serum concentration of IGF-I, whole-body anabolism, and lipid oxidation. GH or IGF-I when given alone produces similar increases in the serum concentration of IGF-I. However, GH selectively increases skeletal muscle mass whereas IGF-I selectively attenuates the intestinal atrophy and abnormal intestinal ion transport induced by TPN. These tissue-selective anabolic effects of GH and IGF-I are associated with differential increases in protein synthesis in skeletal muscle and jejunum, respectively.
CONCLUSIONS:
Simultaneous treatment with GH and IGF-I may offer the greatest clinical efficacy because of improved nitrogen retention in association with enhanced lipid oxidation and stimulation of protein synthesis in multiple tissue types.
Thank you! That answers my question and more. I didn't know you could combine the two.
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Has anyone bought any from any of our Aussie sponsors ?? And has it made any difference?
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Originally Posted by
Mattymoo
Has anyone bought any from any of our Aussie sponsors ?? And has it made any difference?
We're delivering to Aus (though not ********), we guarantee ****** quality
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