Kubes - Hcg Protocol

**kubes** · 04-19-2017, 12:30 AM

Originally Posted by Slimgym80

So if you were running a 12 week cycle you would pin from 3-13?

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12 Week cycle of what? Run your hcg right up to 3 days prior to starting pct

**Slimgym80** · 04-19-2017, 12:36 AM

Not to go off topic but.....12 weeks of test e at 500mg wk. Most likely 50mg of anavar per day weeks 6-12. Want to use an AI so I was thinking aromasin at 12.5 eod for the length of the cycle with nolva/clomid for pct weeks 14-18.

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**kubes** · 04-19-2017, 01:17 AM

Originally Posted by Slimgym80

Not to go off topic but.....12 weeks of test e at 500mg wk. Most likely 50mg of anavar per day weeks 6-12. Want to use an AI so I was thinking aromasin at 12.5 eod for the length of the cycle with nolva/clomid for pct weeks 14-18.

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I would run the hcg for 14 days past last pin of test and then start your pct

**JMaxwell** · 04-21-2017, 01:20 PM

Hey, another quick question. I am 6 weeks into my 16 week cycle (500mg Test E, 600 mg EQ per week). I was told by someone I trusted I didn't need hcg which is why I didn't have it when I started. Only after digging into the threads here on BOP did I find out it was probably a good idea. So by the time I got it ordered and delivered its week six..so my question is can I jump in and just start up with the 250 ui 2x per week from here? Thanks!

**kubes** · 04-21-2017, 05:43 PM

Yes jump on the hcg now and run it right up to 3 days prior to starting pct

**spoolin** · 05-01-2017, 01:28 AM

Kubes, I've been using Nolva 40/40/20/20 and Clomid 100/100/50/50 two weeks after last pin of test for PCT but my boys don't seem to rebound as well as when I used to use HCG only for PCT. Seems like it takes a couple months to get the boys back working normally now, so should I go back to HCG for PCT? If you think I should try going back to the HCG PCT after my 20 week cycles (1000mg testE/600mg NPP wk), what protocol would you recommend? Or do you think I should try out running HCG during cycle? Just worried about the estrogen issues.

Great writeup btw.

**kubes** · 05-01-2017, 03:18 AM

Originally Posted by spoolin

Kubes, I've been using Nolva 40/40/20/20 and Clomid 100/100/50/50 two weeks after last pin of test for PCT but my boys don't seem to rebound as well as when I used to use HCG only for PCT. Seems like it takes a couple months to get the boys back working normally now, so should I go back to HCG for PCT? If you think I should try going back to the HCG PCT after my 20 week cycles (1000mg testE/600mg NPP wk), what protocol would you recommend? Or do you think I should try out running HCG during cycle? Just worried about the estrogen issues.

Great writeup btw.

You really should run your hcg on cycle to maintain testicular function. When you run hcg after your cycle it will continue to suppress lh function.

**spoolin** · 05-01-2017, 09:40 PM

Originally Posted by kubes

You really should run your hcg on cycle to maintain testicular function. When you run hcg after your cycle it will continue to suppress lh function.

If I do go ahead and run it with the cycle, do I go the whole 18 weeks and starting the day I start back up (stopping the HCG 3 days before last test pin) and do I need to still do the Nolva/Clomid protocol at PCT or just go off like you described? 200iu every 3 days? You can pin it sub Q with a slin pin, correct?

**fitraver** · 05-01-2017, 09:44 PM

Originally Posted by spoolin

If I do go ahead and run it with the cycle, do I go the whole 18 weeks (stopping 2 weeks before last test pin) and do I need to still do the Nolva/Clomid protocol at PCT or just go off like you described? 200iu every 3 days? You can pin it sub Q with a slin pin, correct?

Still run your pct after and yes you can pin it sub q