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      Quote Originally Posted by stephen220 View Post
      I find it beneficial I take gh and then eat then my insulin, because gh causes insulin resistance so taking insulin helps with the carbs and since how gh works it helps prevent me from getting fat on insulin. I don't believe it can cause diabetes unless really abused I use it for 3-4 weeks every now and then at a low dose. But that's just me and I don't think just anyone should use it. It's powerful and can make you go hypo if ever attempted you must be very informed on how to use it and how it works.
      This is actually the notion behind insulin usage, let me explain a bit

      GH is a stress hormone, as such it raises glucose levels (as well as free fatty acids - this is how GH burns fat and increases metabolism). When glucose levels rise the body has to secrete insulin to balance the glucose levels, when using superpharmacological GH levels the glucose levels rises sharply, and the body needs to cope with it with secreting more and more insulin from the pancreas, this phenomena reach a point in which he pancreas is overloaded and its ability to withstand its mission is hindered. This is exact the point when some exogenous insulin may be added to help the natural ability of the body to cope with these high glucose levels. Note (!!!) that this should be done very carefully along with monitoring the glucose levels properly, any mistake here may lead to fatal results, so using insulin is generally not advised, and if done it should be accompanied with proper usage with glucometer (hope I use the right term) to be on the top of things.

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      Good post Scrioxx!
      Now let's say slin is completely out of the question would 1000 mg of metformin be a good substitute?

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      Absolutely, I would trial Metformin, but again - start from lower dosage, monitor glucose levels, in this area the more is certainly not the better, on the contrary - thrive just to give the body the little extra help to counter the potential harm done by the high serum glucose levels caused from GH (as well as from very high carb diet) to insulin sensitivity
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      Hgh, IGF-LR3, insulin protocol.

      So, with this discussion about insulin I thought I would share the protocol I use and will be using on my next bulk.

      Weeks 1-? HGH-2.5 iu 1st thing in the morning, 2.5 iu early afternoon. (5-on, 2 off)
      Weeks 1-5, 11-21, 21-25. IGF-1LR3- ED 60mcg's IM post wo on wo days, first thing in morning non wo days.
      Weeks 6-10, 16-20, 26-30 Humalin R 8iu immediately post wo, workout days only.
      Immediately after slin injections I do the following.
      Inject+5 minutes, drink a shake w/10g of L-glutamine, 10g of creatine and 55g of vitargo.
      At 15 minutes post slin inject, drink shake with 80g of whey protein in water.
      At 60-75 minutes post slin inject, eat a protein/carb meal w/40-50 g of protein, 40-50g carbs, NO FATS FOR 2-4 hours post slin inject.
      That covers the basics. There are some other details one needs to be aware of when following this plan. But as you can see the insulin protocol here is in no way enough to make me diabetic. I have run this protocol before and always use my glucose meter when running slin. It's just plain dumb not to. I'm sure some of you will have questions. I'll be glad to answer what I can.

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      Hey brother I believe whst youre describing is called reactive hypoglycemia

      Reactive hypoglycemia. - PubMed - NCBI

      Quote Originally Posted by Judgmentalist View Post
      All my life since I was a kid I have to watch what I eat. If I eat too many simple carbs or something with a bunch of sugar in it just get a little weak, dizzy, lightheaded... basically feel like crap for a while.

      Had some tests done that said I was "somewhat hypoglycemic".

      No big deal, just have to not eat like a moron. However since I already have an issue with how my insulin triggers respond I would be more than average afraid to mess with it.


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      Quote Originally Posted by joko123 View Post
      Hey brother I believe whst youre describing is called reactive hypoglycemia

      Reactive hypoglycemia. - PubMed - NCBI
      Thanks man. Interesting article.


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