Thread: how/where to buy T4

Originally Posted by jnab

Oh... thanks for the advice Sam, what exactly should I be looking for in the bloodwork, had 2 done recently, one checking a bunch of parameters to see if I was healthy, everything came within range, than another for test levels, LH, FSH and test were the on the lower end of the range.
Besides I read several times about the 100mcg dosage, but not surprised it might be a little strong considering I know of one lady who had her thyroid removed yet is only on 125mcg a day. If anyone has more input on how to go gradually with the dose it will be welcome. Anyway i'll heed Sam's advice above and start on a lower dose until I at least read more on the topic.

Your thyroid levels work on a reverse feedback. So if you are at the lower end of the reference range on your TSH then your pituitary gland is telling your thyroid glad to make more and that is what it is doing. So if you add T4 then you would drop that level even more and mess up the system between your Thyroid and your pituitary. But if you were on the upper end of the range then adding T4 would lower that number without really messing up your endocrine system. This is why it is so important to get your bloodwork checked. This is where a lot of people get in trouble with T4, they think it is like your test levels and it is not at all.

Originally Posted by jnab

Thanks again Sam, I don't have the TSH levels (can check them though - probably, some tests are available here, others not ). Started checking on internet and a bunch of studies come up, mostly about women though, one link showing a correlation of TSH and FSH levels (both beeing high for that lady, and both going down during that treatment). If that is any good indication it looks like I shouldn't take any (I'm already taking 600mg Alpha Lipoic acid, would have stopped if taking T4).
Other HGH/T4 users who might have low TSH care to share their experience ?T
Besides I plan to start taking clomid very soon, long term, to try to increase Test levels without yet going through TRT. testosterone came at 401ngLdl a few days ago. I haven't taken any aas for about 20 years.
There are a lot of factors in play, definitely more than I will understand after a few more days reading on the topic, if you or anyone has extra input on the topic it will be most welcome.

Why go one a SERM - Selective Estrogen Receptor Modulators? If you are doing HGH why not just do TRT dosage of test? Then no need for PCT when you do use a cycle? 401 is not really low T but getting towards the bottom. I feel better when I am between 750-1000. Everyone one is different. When you take Test I would recommend strongly in using HCG. That shit is the wonder drug of all time, IMHO. I go off and on my AI due to the benefits of having higher Estrogen levels on cycle but I never miss my HCG. Most say 500 IU a week but fuck that I like my balls so I use 200 IU a day. They boys just hang and feel better. Now I have been on TRT for over 10+ years so you know.

Heck in your in China or Hong Kong then you can have RX written in whatever language you want and travel freely, does not have to be a real RX just one that will pass customs. If you are going to be gone for a couple of weeks then just inject double your TRT dose in one shot and your good for 2 weeks. I have been everywhere other than Australia and they didn't even look at it. I had it in the box still with the RX number and everything. Even had a doctor write me a letter and they didn't even care. TRT for men around 40 is very common now. It is when you bring more than personal use for your stay it becomes an issue. With that being said, I did have a worker that traveled with me that had other AAS and was refused to come into SA and was sent home on the next flight.

Sure, i thought about a fake prescription and going around with pharma testosterone at TRT dose, it should work in most places, although can still land you in jail in UAE or at best with your ******** confiscated until the issue is cleared ( even with a genuine prescription, and if not cleared you can pick your ******** up to 4 years later), the place is very harsh on imported medication, and I usually have to spend a few days there when flying to Europe. I like Dubai btw, but don't take any medication going there, even those I know are available otc in the UAE, i'll just buy them there.
Anyway the issue so far, before taking a step toward TRT wich one can't really take back (read some threads about guys wanting to stop it, it didn't look fun, and getting back to it seemed the most likely outcome) is feeling more vulnerable that i'd be without it.
Anyway again, I might just opt for it in a few months, will see how clomid works out, and how a later aas cycle PCT goes.

About T4, I actually started yesterday @25mcgs a day, and today until mid afternoon i didn't feel quite right, quite excited inside (like tickly inside), not very nice and the same feeling in stronger would have had thinking about visiting the hospital, especially while worrying about T4 effects. But not sure it came from T4, I also took IGF for the first time yesterday @33mcg and tribulus might start to kick in after a week of use, will stop Tribulus when starting clomid. Stress can have rather similar effect although I wan't particulary stressed, except possibly of worrying about drugs side effects.

Anyway that encourages me to wait longer before doing any aas, see how the body reacts to those new products first, and definitely go easy on the T4. just received clomid, will start using it at 25mg EOD and will probably after a few weeks check Test and TSH levels.Starting BPC 157 soon as well, at least for a few weeks, see if it helps with nagging injuries.

Thanks again all for your input, and welcome to any further feedback, quite an informative forum.

Originally Posted by jnab

Sure, i thought about a fake prescription and going around with pharma testosterone at TRT dose, it should work in most places, although can still land you in jail in UAE or at best with your ******** confiscated until the issue is cleared ( even with a genuine prescription, and if not cleared you can pick your ******** up to 4 years later), the place is very harsh on imported medication, and I usually have to spend a few days there when flying to Europe. I like Dubai btw, but don't take any medication going there, even those I know are available otc in the UAE, i'll just buy them there.
Anyway the issue so far, before taking a step toward TRT wich one can't really take back (read some threads about guys wanting to stop it, it didn't look fun, and getting back to it seemed the most likely outcome) is feeling more vulnerable that i'd be without it.
Anyway again, I might just opt for it in a few months, will see how clomid works out, and how a later aas cycle PCT goes.

About T4, I actually started yesterday @25mcgs a day, and today until mid afternoon i didn't feel quite right, quite excited inside (like tickly inside), not very nice and the same feeling in stronger would have had thinking about visiting the hospital, especially while worrying about T4 effects. But not sure it came from T4, I also took IGF for the first time yesterday @33mcg and tribulus might start to kick in after a week of use, will stop Tribulus when starting clomid. Stress can have rather similar effect although I wan't particulary stressed, except possibly of worrying about drugs side effects.

Anyway that encourages me to wait longer before doing any aas, see how the body reacts to those new products first, and definitely go easy on the T4. just received clomid, will start using it at 25mg EOD and will probably after a few weeks check Test and TSH levels.Starting BPC 157 soon as well, at least for a few weeks, see if it helps with nagging injuries.

Thanks again all for your input, and welcome to any further feedback, quite an informative forum.

That was the t4. I would cut that dose in half and take it first thing when you wake up then eat 20 minutes laster. It will give you a ton of energy. But I always only add one new thing at a time.

I get tired of TRT. Shots 2 times a week gets old. I will do every 6 days with full dose. If going on a longer trip then I will increase the dose amd inject that. I can say it changed my life. Of you stop TRT you will be back on it within 3 weeks. I have been doing it over 10+ years. It's like any medication, gets old "having" to take it.

Never been to Aeu, would like to go. If you can but it there than that is the best way. Those middle east countries don't play.

Best of luck and I hope I helped you.

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