Thread: U.S Domestic source for Humalog?

Originally Posted by G160

Milo is into short acting..palumbo if im correct is into more intermediate insulins. Personally the short acting is great but so is the R if used in conjuction with gh and if you spend lota of time in the gym and force feed

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Yea. Palumbo likes the 24 hour insulin if you're going to use it at all. He's really not a huge proponent of insulin like Milo's. He's convinced for most people, all insulin will do is make one fat. If you're using high doses of HGH, than you're going to need to use slin, or if you have constant high blood sugar issue's. But other than that, Palumbo doesn't really believe in using Slin for the average guy. Milo's is all for it. They also don't see eye to eye on when to use it. Dave is absolutely against using slin "pre-workout" whereas that's Milo's regimen. It's an interesting debate. I'm using post workout. I don't know if I'd use pre-workout.

Originally Posted by Primemuscle

Honestly man, and this is just my opinion; Palumbo is kind of a joke to me. He couldn’t cut it as an amateur bodybuilder, mediocre at best. Then he has the audacity to poo-poo Milos protocol on slin which clearly works, the proof is in the pudding. Milos has a tight mid section and a very well balanced physique. Plus as Milos stated in his interview with Palumbo, he researched his usage on slin, the timing and what type with doctors who knew their stuff in his home country back in the 90’s. Whereas Palumbo just bites stuff or his premises are flawed. Pre workout slin is the way to go if you consider this: you’re body is the in the most anabolic state when you workout. So why wouldn’t you use the most anabolic hormone (insulin) pre workout then drink intra workout EAA’s and carbs to shuttle all the good stuff to the working muscle. And then if you’d like repeat that post workout as well. However even before I saw Milos stuff I always used slin preworkout over post, especially with humulin R because usually you’ll still be peaked by the time you finish your workout in it’s 2-4 hours after pin peak duration so you get great shuttling to your working muscles, great pumps and still food partitioning with your lost workout meal. As for humalog, 10-12ius pre workout is where it’s at. Drink a shake of whey isolate and fast acting carbs then get to the gym within 30mins of pinning and enjoy the peak duration 30-90 minutes after pinned during your entire workout. And if you’re feeling froggy pin another 10-12ius then get that post workout meal in.

Hopefully I didn’t offend anyone with my opinion. I just don’t get why Dave gets so much credit, he just never has and never will be that great or knowledgeable to me. Especially when you compare him to coaches like: Milos, Matt Jansen, Matt Porter, Bleu Taylor, etc. Those guys talk the talk and walk the walk. Whereas Dave looks like he’s anorexic and sickly. Just can’t take advice from someone who doesn’t even look like they ever lifted.




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Well i completely agree with you, as far as log dosage preworkout its where its at..for some wird reason every time i use gh my pump suffers and so does strength, it feels like im depleted, until i tried insulin. Pwo i got insane pump strength and vascularity, fast acting slin pwo once you try it youd never use other ways. Im still researching on a good combo between long and fast acting to use with gh. I understand gh does raise your bgl and puts pancreas at strain.. i abruptly stopped gh once and i went hypo 4 times(without using slin), scary hypo, it wasnt your average slin hypo it was some scary shit.
Leads me to beleive my pancreas was throwing insulin like gh was in my system..whats weird about it was the fact it was around 10 am which is more or less the time i used gh.
I reasearched the subject an spoke to a few diabetics and bb slin/gh users got some good info. The 2 diabetics i spoke to told me that for some reason during morning hours its when you blood glucose might be lowest, while gh is sure to raise things up once its ubruptly stopped it will have hypo rebounds.
Using gh without slin in my oppinion is less efficient and risky. As far as palumbo goes he doesent ever give concrete info as far as protocols go, like sarcev does

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Originally Posted by Primemuscle

Honestly man, and this is just my opinion; Palumbo is kind of a joke to me. He couldn’t cut it as an amateur bodybuilder, mediocre at best. Then he has the audacity to poo-poo Milos protocol on slin which clearly works, the proof is in the pudding. Milos has a tight mid section and a very well balanced physique. Plus as Milos stated in his interview with Palumbo, he researched his usage on slin, the timing and what type with doctors who knew their stuff in his home country back in the 90’s. Whereas Palumbo just bites stuff or his premises are flawed. Pre workout slin is the way to go if you consider this: you’re body is the in the most anabolic state when you workout. So why wouldn’t you use the most anabolic hormone (insulin) pre workout then drink intra workout EAA’s and carbs to shuttle all the good stuff to the working muscle. And then if you’d like repeat that post workout as well. However even before I saw Milos stuff I always used slin preworkout over post, especially with humulin R because usually you’ll still be peaked by the time you finish your workout in it’s 2-4 hours after pin peak duration so you get great shuttling to your working muscles, great pumps and still food partitioning with your lost workout meal. As for humalog, 10-12ius pre workout is where it’s at. Drink a shake of whey isolate and fast acting carbs then get to the gym within 30mins of pinning and enjoy the peak duration 30-90 minutes after pinned during your entire workout. And if you’re feeling froggy pin another 10-12ius then get that post workout meal in.

Hopefully I didn’t offend anyone with my opinion. I just don’t get why Dave gets so much credit, he just never has and never will be that great or knowledgeable to me. Especially when you compare him to coaches like: Milos, Matt Jansen, Matt Porter, Bleu Taylor, etc. Those guys talk the talk and walk the walk. Whereas Dave looks like he’s anorexic and sickly. Just can’t take advice from someone who doesn’t even look like they ever lifted.




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I like all those guys, including Palumbo. While Dave never turned "pro", he still has alot to offer. As far as all those guys, Dave probably had the worst genetics of the group mentioned, and still was over 300 lbs shredded to the bone. He was a hell of alot better in his prime than 99% of us on this forum. Can't take that away from him, whether you like him or not.
I'm willing to try slin pre-workout and see how I feel. Just a quick question, I was using slin post workout because I was doing my second daily dose of GH pre-workout. If I do slin pre-workout, and possibly post workout, than when should I take my second GH dose ??? I know they counteract each other and you're never supposed to inject both slin and GH at the same time. I also try not doing GH when I'm ingesting carbs. I suppose I could do my second GH dose at bedtime, but from what I've read, that's not advised unless you're older, as you could lose your natural GH pulse. So if I switch from injecting GH pre-workout to injecting Slin, when should I do my second GH shot ??? Thanks guys. Love the forum.

Originally Posted by Primemuscle

That’s a valid point BNSF about Palumbo, guess it’s just hard for me to respect how far he’s fallen from his prime considering how others at least maintain some level of fitness, which makes me question if he only got there due to the help he was receiving from his coach. Because he doesn’t really use concrete reasoning to back his stuff, or at least the things he’s justifies don’t really resonate with me. However different strokes for different folks.

As far as your second gh pin, you could always pin it 1-2 hours before you pin the slin pre workout. That way there’s some time between the two, or pin the gh 1 hour after your post workout meal 2 hours before the following meal.


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Hey bud, thanks for the advice on the second GH injection. I'm doing exactly what you recommended right now. Just pinned 10 IU's of Slin, made my whey isolate shake plus a Dark Matters shake (45 GM's of carbs) with creatine and BCA's added. Just ate a sweet potato and hitting the gym for back/tri's. Gonna see how I feel, including pumps. I have glucose tabs in my gym bag just in case. When I finish, I probably won't do any additional slin. I'll go home, have a whey shake and protein/carb meal. Than wait 2 hrs and do my second GH shot. Unfortunately, that will be close to bed time, but I can't help it today. I'm looking forward to trying this pre-workout slin and seeing how different I feel.
As for Dave, I totally get it. He can definitely "rub people the wrong way". I'm a bit older, almost his age, so I kinda grew up in that late 80's, 90's bodybuilding generation, and remember him when he really was a monster. His conditioning was really second to no one, accept maybe Andreas Muntzer. Vascular and shredded at 300 lbs. But his genetics only took him so far. He never had a very "pleasing" look, but was able to do a lot with what he was given by his parents. That's probably why I respect him. Today, he's lightened up, and really is trying to live a long life. But I totally understand where you're coming from and take no offense whatsoever. Thanks again for the insulin information. I'm looking forward to giving this a try. Thank you !!!!

Originally Posted by Primemuscle

That’s a solid set up, glad you’re giving it a try pre workout. I’m sure you’ll like it.. just for clarity tho: is the shake to sip during your workout or was that for pre workout? Only reason I’m asking is because I always have a intra workout shake with 50-60g fast acting carbs (cell tech, iso-carb or karbolyn or Powerade works fine too) with 1.5 scoops EAA’s and sip that throughout the entire workout. That way you’ll never go hypo and all that good stuff is getting shuttles to your working muscles.

Those are all valid points and that does give me a different perspective on Dave. And I get the longevity thing, however to completely stop lifting and look like that from where he once was blows my mind


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Yes, intra-workout. I sipped it thru out my workout on Saturday and will be doing the same thing tonight in just a little while. I didn't have any issues with going hypo whatsoever. I did however get "tired" towards the end of my back workout and had to really push to get thru tri's. I got a great workout, but just felt a little "sleepy" towards the end and couldn't wait to leave. Not sure if that was from the slin and not having enough carbs and maybe a drop in blood sugar, or if slin just makes you tired.
I will say one thing, I'm scaring myself almost daily looking in the mirror, or putting on clothes that use to be big, or stepping on the scale. I know ALOT of this is me holding water, but Dammmmmmmmm, I don't ever remember growing this quickly and seeing the scale literally move up on a daily basis. I'm only starting this cycle. Can't wait to see the coming weeks. I'm still doing 1 hour of Cardio at least 4 day's a week and eating clean. Still fitting in my waist size 31 jeans, and will pull it back if my waist starts to grow. This is one wild ride.
As for Dave, I totally understand if you look at him now and didn't really watch him from his early twenties. He looks extremely "meek" and like he's never been a Bodybuilder. So I hear where your coming from. I think Dave, like alot of the guys he talks to on his show, including Chris Aceto or Jerry Brainum for example, has decided to be really healthy at 50 year's old, you can't carry around 250 lbs + anymore. None of those guys really look like they ever lifted. In fact, I don't believe any of them actually lift at all anymore. So I totally understand your point.