[QUOTE=getbigg;698587]The reason i ask the more i read about ins i get more nervous. I Usally blast 800test 500tren 200decc etc etc. Then cruise on 500test. I guess i may have to look into the ins a bit more. I was trying to stay away from it as much as possible. This is why i wanted to just stay stay on and add it in the.
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LOL , well I appreciate you brother , and posts I've seen of yours have been solid and show hands on experience. but really I don't want to give anyone a "run for their money", just glad to be around good company and help guys outOriginally Posted by Musclemechanic76
What i meant is u have knowledge!
At another place where I hadn't been as active, u have helped alot if guys and for a while it was u or me coming thru for them.
Good to help and share what we learn
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[QUOTE=RockDawg;698668]It can be really simple and to be honest I get results off of test, primo, and mast with hgh and my choice to use t3/t4 50mcg of each works for me at 4iu-6iu hgh i can't afford any more and I buy good generics in bulk!!!
I only use lower doses of bulkers now with hgh!!
And health benifits are great! I am in low to mid 40's I am not having to drain blood Dr ordered as needed phlebotomy's but every few months compared to 1-2 a month alot!!
I only run tren ace to cut now for 6 weeks I drop to 5% without even following a real diet eating my kids snacks. Lol!
Am on lean bulk atm
With test 600wk, deca 450wk, mast 600, primo 600, anadrol 50mg.
In May will change to test p, mast p, tren a, primo a 100mg each a day, with proviron and keep hgh and t3/t4 and Maybe Anavar.
In 6 weeks I will shred to 5% effortless.
This is benifit I love and will lose no muscle at all!!!
I only run these cuts for 6 weeks rest of stuff is mild pretty much!
I have had bad luck, surgeries, in-house check in places for going off on some folks not quite the loony bin but to get pat on back! So I have had alot of set backs every year but hoping this one will bring better luck for future!!
But I would never go back to high gear almost all the time since realizing benifits of hgh with less milder gear!!!
It's a choice i made and my age, injuries needed healing tendons always were hurting etc etc..
I have done labor trade my whole life but finally making change too.
It's for u to weigh out!!! I do not regret my choice and I am very safe and careful I learn all I can before doing anything or listening to one person!!!
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Last edited by Musclemechanic76; 03-03-2018 at 05:32 AM.
Thanks everyone this is why i love this forum...
What hgh protocol would u recommend for some getting up at 5am training at about 7pm & going to bed about 10pm?
That is what I do. Adjust your times or hgh and what not!
I get up at 4:15am
I TAKE ME MY CHOICE t3/t4
Dose or mix depending on availability I grab
T3/t4 50mcg of each
Or t4 100mcg But I like some t3 in there.
I prefer a mix of 20mcg t3 and 200mcg t4
And I add 25mcg more t3 on a cut
Back to your question.
I take thyroid product and
Hgh 2 to 2.5iu right away when I get up
Then I go take dump get dressed
By 5am I am mixing protien I use
Whey iso 50 grams with 4 net carbs for those 2 servings
I take my orals if any
Usually 10mg Cialis and Proviron and Any other I may be on.
I drive to gym
5:30am hitting weights
If i add IGF I won't use till last 15 minutes of workout and when I do it's 30mcg bilateral 60mcg total DES or lr3.
Receptor open and ready at this time. And liver also producing IGF muscle cells sensing hgh presence.
Done workout at 6:30am I am eating high protien meal with carbs
Approx 6-7 eggs oatmeal and maybe a piece of toast.
At around 4:30pm I use another 2 to 2.5 iu hgh
Being fasted 1 hour before and after an hour. Then eat dinner in my case at 5:45pm
I use generic hgh I stick with the ones that test currently good and that I have trust worthy relationship with supplier!!
I can tell hgh if it's good with no test by healing, pain free, head ache if I wait too long to eat after like 2 hours instead of 1.
Also I learned I don't get water retention and edema at 5iu a day of good generics.
Carpal tunnel last a few weeks after starting and as gets better I go up to 5iu a day!
I get leaning affect with heavier body weight and it comes effortless compared to no hgh!!
Sure t3/T-4 helps but without it I literally fall asleep after work out during peak of that first dose around 3.5 hours after without taking some t4 or.....
Poor quality hgh!! I get welp right after pinning it goes away but is there with redness for a bit!
Poor quality has given me edema in hands and water retention all over.
This edema swells hands at night mimicking carpal tunnel syndrome. It hurts so bad have to wake up at 2am and walk around to relieve edema fluid in hands then pain subsides!!!
Good hgh I get a normal bearable carpal tunnel syndrome that I adjust to and my elbow tendons also ache at times!!!
The leaning affect is obvious from quality!!
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most excellent post! thanks musclemechanic76It works best after working out so u use pre-workout preferably in a.m.
Use pre-workout in am is best because it takes 3.5 hours to peak and by that time it's working at peak after your workout.
If we sleep all night fasted we will be most sensitive to insulin in a.m.!!!!
I use 2.5iu first thing in morning.
I take my dump, get dressed and walk out door with protien low carb protien like 2grams carbs.
I am hitting weights and done with workout by this time muscle cells sense hgh present and signal liver to produce IGF.
It's released makes it to cells!!!!
When workout is done hgh is at peak IGF released and cells sensitive to insulin!!
We eat protien and carbs after workout!!
And it works best! Because insulin is welcomed by our cells from carbs after workout!!!
Hgh release causes prolactin and cortisol to rise. These levels highest in morning so another reason best time.
To dose twice a day, in morning A.M. before workout best. Then afternoon. These are the two times cortisol is highest and hgh works best.
At night good for healing and fat loss but not eating and having effects of insulin after peak will not be as affective for growth!!!
It works either way, but best as described!
Also we do still make hgh on 2iu a day dose on our own yes indeed!!!
So don't shut it down by using at wrong time if we chose a 2iu low dose that will be done and over with well before we go to bed!!!
Biggest release for healing is at night!!
Our body is designed to heal and provide normal growth from hgh release.
But we use it to manipulate more growth and get most out of expensive hgh we administer. So I am smart about it!!!
This is my 2cents i have read researched and learned. In morning after workout its hard to stay awake from this great affect I have had to add t3 for metabolism to keep up shuttling enough to provide!!
Sorry for the long post but u asked!
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Do you get your hgh from a BOP sponsor? Great info Thnaks for sharing!
Anytime brother.
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