First Slin Cycle

[Cratos]

Background:
I ran my first cycle about a year ago with just Test E @500mg and I hated it. Hair lose plagued me and I had high estrogen until I found the right dose of arimidex which was .5mg EOD. Now, I would like to run another cycle and would like some input, not really on the AAS but on diet and slin. Yes, it's dangerous but relatively safe and easy to manage, especially, if you are not a jack ass and at least loosely monitor your diet which I meticulously do.

Current Stats:
Age: 27
Height: 5'7
Weight: 182lb
BF%: 10
Comp Squat: 445
Comp Bench: 270lb
Comp Deadlift: 505lb
Strict Press: 170lb

Maintenance Diet for 182lb (Last 2 months averages):
Calories: 3662/3662
Carbs: 480g/488g
Protein: 212g/208g
Fat: 92g/89g

I'm trying to keep my fats as low as possible while having health related foods in it (eggs/sardine/avocado/dark chocolate/lean red meat) which comes to around 80g most days. Protein is set at around .8g/lb from meat/dairy and I get a decent amount more through the carbs I eat. All remaining calories are carbs. I'd love to have more protein but carbs are just so cheap. I'm on such a tight budget, that I had to learn how to brew my own gear which I must say was an invaluable skill to acquire.

Cycle:
Week 1-4: 125mg Test E/600mg Deca/40 Tbol/6-20IU R Insulin
Week 5-8: 125mg Test E/800mg Deca/40 Tbol/6-20IU R Insulin
*25mg MK-677 with Somatostatin inhibitor

Please no comments about Deca dick. If you control estrogen you won't get deca dick. Deca is pretty much the safest compound on the hair and Tbol is thrown in at a low dose for some hardening as I'm assuming I will retain some water with this cycle and my appearance matters in the field I work in. I'll start with 6IU slin and up it 2IU at a time until 16-20IU. Of course meal timing and carb quantity all matter and I'll be getting in at last 150g carb when I pin and another 150g within 3-3.5hours. Most protocols for insulin call for 4 weeks on 4 off, however, it all depends on insulin sensitivity which is why I'll get bloodwork for week 5, but 6-8 weeks is pretty common as well with similar time off.

Questions:

• Since R insulin lasts 6-8 hours it is often recommended to pin twice a day, however, that expedites the onset of insulin resistance, so would it not be better to up the dose of the single shot 16-20IU instead of 2 separate shots of 8-10IU? What exactly is the difference of pinning once daily vs twice daily?
• Any guidelines on increasing calories going from a maintenance off cycle (3650cal @182lb) to on cycle seeking maximum mass (using the above compounds) if training volume is kept relatively the same? I was thinking of increasing 750~1000cal surplus for weeks 1-4 weeks and likely another 500cal increase for weeks 5-8 (all from mostly carbs putting me at 700g+ carbs). What is everyone's opinion/experience on this?

[Downtown]

I've used log before as my slin, I'll never use insulin again. Gh gut like a mofo, it's taken me forever to get it looking decent again. And don't fall asleep while the slin is still active, very dangerous

[Cratos]

I've used log before as my slin, I'll never use insulin again. Gh gut like a mofo, it's taken me forever to get it looking decent again. And don't fall asleep while the slin is still active, very dangerous

Surprised log did that since it is the shortest slin? Did you use GH with it and how much log did you use daily?

Yeah, no naps or sleep while insulin is active.

[Downtown]

Igf, ghrp6, cjc, etc, n 5-10 uis. I always had a nice v and a narrow waist.

[Cratos]

Igf, ghrp6, cjc, etc, n 5-10 uis. I always had a nice v and a narrow waist.

Dam bro you must have had crazy high lvl's of IGF. Mine is simply MK677 with some inhibitors so not worried about getting a gut. Would have loved to add in cjc but once I can spend more money I will.

[Oldskool]

Background:
I ran my first cycle about a year ago with just Test E @500mg and I hated it. Hair lose plagued me and I had high estrogen until I found the right dose of arimidex which was .5mg EOD. Now, I would like to run another cycle and would like some input, not really on the AAS but on diet and slin. Yes, it's dangerous but relatively safe and easy to manage, especially, if you are not a jack ass and at least loosely monitor your diet which I meticulously do.

Current Stats:
Age: 27
Height: 5'7
Weight: 182lb
BF%: 10
Comp Squat: 445
Comp Bench: 270lb
Comp Deadlift: 505lb
Strict Press: 170lb

Maintenance Diet for 182lb (Last 2 months averages):
Calories: 3662/3662
Carbs: 480g/488g
Protein: 212g/208g
Fat: 92g/89g

I'm trying to keep my fats as low as possible while having health related foods in it (eggs/sardine/avocado/dark chocolate/lean red meat) which comes to around 80g most days. Protein is set at around .8g/lb from meat/dairy and I get a decent amount more through the carbs I eat. All remaining calories are carbs. I'd love to have more protein but carbs are just so cheap. I'm on such a tight budget, that I had to learn how to brew my own gear which I must say was an invaluable skill to acquire.

Cycle:
Week 1-4: 125mg Test E/600mg Deca/40 Tbol/6-20IU R Insulin
Week 5-8: 125mg Test E/800mg Deca/40 Tbol/6-20IU R Insulin
*25mg MK-677 with Somatostatin inhibitor

Please no comments about Deca dick. If you control estrogen you won't get deca dick. Deca is pretty much the safest compound on the hair and Tbol is thrown in at a low dose for some hardening as I'm assuming I will retain some water with this cycle and my appearance matters in the field I work in. I'll start with 6IU slin and up it 2IU at a time until 16-20IU. Of course meal timing and carb quantity all matter and I'll be getting in at last 150g carb when I pin and another 150g within 3-3.5hours. Most protocols for insulin call for 4 weeks on 4 off, however, it all depends on insulin sensitivity which is why I'll get bloodwork for week 5, but 6-8 weeks is pretty common as well with similar time off.

Questions:

• Since R insulin lasts 6-8 hours it is often recommended to pin twice a day, however, that expedites the onset of insulin resistance, so would it not be better to up the dose of the single shot 16-20IU instead of 2 separate shots of 8-10IU? What exactly is the difference of pinning once daily vs twice daily?
• Any guidelines on increasing calories going from a maintenance off cycle (3650cal @182lb) to on cycle seeking maximum mass (using the above compounds) if training volume is kept relatively the same? I was thinking of increasing 750~1000cal surplus for weeks 1-4 weeks and likely another 500cal increase for weeks 5-8 (all from mostly carbs putting me at 700g+ carbs). What is everyone's opinion/experience on this?

I personally see nothing wrong with the over all diet and cycle plan uve laid out (based on info provided)

The diet is relatively similar to what ive recently switched to myself other than the proteins seem kinda low.

On cycle i do an average of 2 gms protein per lb. But at the very minimum ill do 1.5 gm per lb.

Considering that the gear provides massive amounts of increased protein synthesis and the fact that even if ur consuming a little bit more protein than ur body can actually use itll most likely just get burnt up anyway due to the amount of work/energy required to digest the protein anyway. So a little bit extra wont end up as fat.

I am very very interested in slin myself and want to add it in as well but i'm still researching it atm.

Good luck. Would love to hear how everything goes on the cycle

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[Cratos]

I personally see nothing wrong with the over all diet and cycle plan uve laid out (based on info provided)

The diet is relatively similar to what ive recently switched to myself other than the proteins seem kinda low.

On cycle i do an average of 2 gms protein per lb. But at the very minimum ill do 1.5 gm per lb.

Considering that the gear provides massive amounts of increased protein synthesis and the fact that even if ur consuming a little bit more protein than ur body can actually use itll most likely just get burnt up anyway due to the amount of work/energy required to digest the protein anyway. So a little bit extra wont end up as fat.

I am very very interested in slin myself and want to add it in as well but i'm still researching it atm.

Good luck. Would love to hear how everything goes on the cycle

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Thanks mate!