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      Quote Originally Posted by Caustic Charm View Post
      I am most def interested in hearing your experience with T4 and HGH. I don't have a thyroid issue, but I wondered if it would help me lean out over 4-6 weeks.
      I used Novothyral mix 20mcg t3 and 100mcg t4..
      I waited till thyroid suppressed and was well sure it was first.
      Then added 1/2 of above checked heart rate and BP regular thru day..
      Watched edema in hands in morning clear..
      I was upping to 5iu a day from 3iu
      I then added 1 Novothyral a day monitoring
      I was good edema cleared and BP and heart rate perfect.. I ran long term the thyroid meds 5-6 months.
      Last 6 weeks added 12.5 t3 then 25mcg t3
      So total of 45mcg t4 and 100mcg t4.
      After my contest cut I went to cruise and kept 4-5iu hgh... I weaned off thyroid and used a thyroid support Iodine supp 2 drops
      Between wrist and rubbed together..

      Got down to 5% did this more than once but now hgh alone and HIIT with gear my bf stays under 11% a little effort 8% tren for 6 weeks 7% or less...

      It's about getting there, working hard once conditioned to stay at level high level of intensity. Get hgh to proper place. Some cycle t3 and t4 or use just t4. Some ramp, some use Lower thry duration...

      I hope i answered u, what amazed me about t3 and t4 was oxygen delivery to muscles they just wouldn't burn out or me, cardio with HIIT unreal. It still is.
      I only do hiit by combining and switching load from one muscle to next burst sets of 3 pause rest and not longer than 30 seconds..
      -Chest, tris, abs
      -Back and bis
      -Legs only upper legs but i do stairs and - -- -Eliptical before and after.
      - shoulders and calves
      I do workouts 2 days and rest 1 day then 2 days work rest 2 then start again the day don't matter I just do then how they fall.
      I work at pace I can't complete more than 2 days in row without rest day.

      Not encouraging t3/t4 I am not on it anymore tried again and thyroid must be fine cause heart rate was too high so safety first!!! But I ate what ever I wanted until last 4 weeks prep...

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      Quote Originally Posted by Musclemechanic76 View Post
      I used Novothyral mix 20mcg t3 and 100mcg t4..
      I waited till thyroid suppressed and was well sure it was first.
      Then added 1/2 of above checked heart rate and BP regular thru day..
      Watched edema in hands in morning clear..
      I was upping to 5iu a day from 3iu
      I then added 1 Novothyral a day monitoring
      I was good edema cleared and BP and heart rate perfect.. I ran long term the thyroid meds 5-6 months.
      Last 6 weeks added 12.5 t3 then 25mcg t3
      So total of 45mcg t4 and 100mcg t4.
      After my contest cut I went to cruise and kept 4-5iu hgh... I weaned off thyroid and used a thyroid support Iodine supp 2 drops
      Between wrist and rubbed together..

      Got down to 5% did this more than once but now hgh alone and HIIT with gear my bf stays under 11% a little effort 8% tren for 6 weeks 7% or less...

      It's about getting there, working hard once conditioned to stay at level high level of intensity. Get hgh to proper place. Some cycle t3 and t4 or use just t4. Some ramp, some use Lower thry duration...

      I hope i answered u, what amazed me about t3 and t4 was oxygen delivery to muscles they just wouldn't burn out or me, cardio with HIIT unreal. It still is.
      I only do hiit by combining and switching load from one muscle to next burst sets of 3 pause rest and not longer than 30 seconds..
      -Chest, tris, abs
      -Back and bis
      -Legs only upper legs but i do stairs and - -- -Eliptical before and after.
      - shoulders and calves
      I do workouts 2 days and rest 1 day then 2 days work rest 2 then start again the day don't matter I just do then how they fall.
      I work at pace I can't complete more than 2 days in row without rest day.

      Not encouraging t3/t4 I am not on it anymore tried again and thyroid must be fine cause heart rate was too high so safety first!!! But I ate what ever I wanted until last 4 weeks prep...

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      How did you suppress your thyroid? Or were you having a problem with it originally?


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      I actually just had to bump it back down to 2.5 ius / day. The swelling and ichy rash in my ankles, knees, elbows, wrists is too much to handle right now. I think going from 2 to 3.3 ius was to drastic of a change after 6 weeks. I will stay at 2.5 for a while and see how that goes.

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      wondering if I am maybe alergic to something in the HGH, that would cause the red ichy skin rash. It is not at the injection site.

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      Quote Originally Posted by kaarona1 View Post
      wondering if I am maybe alergic to something in the HGH, that would cause the red ichy skin rash. It is not at the injection site.
      What are you using to reconstitute it ? And where is the rash ? What other PEDs are you taking?


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      Using BAC Water from medical supply store to reconstitute. The rash and swelling is on top of my feet and ankles, on my hands and on my butt. I am also taking Test E and Deca.

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      What are you using to reconstitute it ? And where is the rash ? What other PEDs are you taking?


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      That is great. Mine is to encourage you to keep up. you should move to 4 within the first six months. Just stay focused and things will work for you.

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      Quote Originally Posted by kaarona1 View Post
      Using BAC Water from medical supply store to reconstitute. The rash and swelling is on top of my feet and ankles, on my hands and on my butt. I am also taking Test E and Deca.
      Although rare it is possible to be allergic one of the preservatives in the hgh. If you have an underlying skin condition the GH could be causing that to flair up as well. Worse comes to worse see a dermatologist but leave them in the dark about the use of hgh they will run some tests. I know it sounds weird but I have also heard of people taking oatmeal baths not sure the science behind it but maybe something to look into.


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      Quote Originally Posted by Caustic Charm View Post
      How did you suppress your thyroid? Or were you having a problem with it originally?


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      Using 5iu of HGH will suppress thyroid 9 out of 10

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      Quote Originally Posted by Musclemechanic76 View Post
      Using 5iu of HGH will suppress thyroid 9 out of 10

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      Really? You talking generics? I read all your post bro cause your very informative guy with alot of experience and short time you've been here I've learned alot from you for real. Me personally with generics 4iu my throyoid is off a little but not enough for t3. I did the rookie move when I first started hgh cause you see all the threads that it is a must to use t3 or t4 with hgh no matter what and I listened like an idiot and thyroid was really over active and took about almost 2 months to get normal. I go dec 4th to check again and cant stress enough how important it is to check levels while on hgh cause it can cause some serious health issiues. The thing is with the thyroid high or low numbers the symptoms are identical so most guys feel tired and assume I need t3 but thsts not the case just check levels. I know guys trust me how it can be pain in the ass to pay and take time to get bloodwork. sometimes I go every week to check something. I never knew so much about the human body until recent and researching and listening to guys experiences its really crazy one thing can trigger so many other things.

      In order to get results your looking for you must research and understand how it works and it wont br over night. I'm always researching and my doctor visits last like 2 hrs cause I'm always asking questions.

      As for BP it's never high with generics even at 6iu which isnt really that much. My opinion is to really see good results a minimum with 8iu cause I've been testing all different brands and I'm really not impressed at all with 4iu. Maybe cause I keep switching and IGf numbers are always different.

      Stick around musclemachanic your experience and knowledge can teach alot guys bro. Thanks.

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