Thread: Mother of All Experiments!!!

Ok, I am really bogged down studying atm. But, I am going to try to run a test tomorrow. I will keep everyone posted.

Sorry I overslept, and I didn't think I could wait to eat until noon! (I am such a scrub) Good news though, the lab near me tests Saturday; I should have something tomorrow.

Omerta, those are great points and I agree with much of what you said, especially regarding the differing peak times and saturation levels; another board member, Spicyer, also believes that is how IM operates in contrast to SubQ.

However, one point of clarification: according to what I have read, a reading over 10 is NOT ineffective. Rather, it is how much you inject that is relevant. I am not sure if that is how you interpreted what I wrote, but I just wanted to make sure.

So for Example:
A standard RX bottle contains 5.8mg (round up to 6 for simplicity)
International stand unit is 1mg=2.7IU (round up to 3 for simplicity)
So, that 6mg X 3 = 18IU’s
Injecting 1ml of water into that bottle would yield 1.8IU per .1ml - (Remember, .1ml is the standard 10 mark on an insulin needle.

So, I would inject approximately .55ml to get 10IU’s. - (10/1.8) - (In other words 55 on an insulin needle)
This dose is what most clinical studies are based on, as most manufacturers produce 5.4-5.8mg bottles. But the issue here is that one’s body may not be able to process that much. A dose of 10IU’s may yield a reading of 12ng/ml or a serum test, but it is entirely likely I could have obtained the same result by injecting a lesser amount. Similarly, I could inject 50IU’s and still get the same 12ng/ml result. Each person’s body will have a different capacity to process HGH differently to some degree.

Ultimately, what you said about consistency versus spikes is the most important thing. In a very basic way, it is similar to how many bodybuilders believe food should be consumed. You don’t want to wolf down 5lbs of chicken once a day; it makes more sense to space it out over the day. Sorry if that was a little long, I tend to ramble. Hopefully it makes sense?

One last thing, you said “Btw, Insulin GREATLY prevents the breakdown of hgh.” Why do you believe that is so? I ask because some of the literature I have read indicates that insulin and hgh compete for the same pathways in the body. In other words, one would wait 30 minutes after their morning injection before consuming food to insure maximum absorption. However, I don’t think the effect is extremely significant.

Sorry I have been so long in posting. Going through some hectic shit at the moment, but it should be over around the 24th.


Anyhoo, here is my first test for a HGH product that I obtained 'from a friend'


As you can see, it is significantly lower when compared to the Prescription HGH.


Recall (or scroll up) the RX HGH Omnitrope came in at 12.4.
This Sample came in at 2.3





NOTE: I tried to maintain the exact same conditions, but even slight error or change in circumstances would not explain an almost 500% different in the reading.


At this point, in the interest of fairness, I will retest one time.
First, I would like to test a 3rd Sample.